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Hopefully Charles has many healthy years ahead but……

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GameForTwo · 04/01/2026 03:03

When Charles dies, will the number of people willing to pay their respects as he lies in state be as high? Will he have similar funeral arrangements as the late Queen? Or will arrangements be reduced in keeping with Charles’ pledge to slim down the RF and public costs?

Do you think that given Charles’ reign will be significantly shorter than his mothers, that the public will appreciate such large/expensive arrangements so soon after the passing of Her Majesty.

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Allseeingallknowing · 11/01/2026 19:15

I’ve been called worse!

Ohpleeeease · 11/01/2026 19:38

Allseeingallknowing · 11/01/2026 19:15

I’ve been called worse!

It has a ring to it!

CathyorClaire · 11/01/2026 20:17

It's not a pub quiz! It's a moment to promote Britain.

Well if that was the intention, the fact such a high proportion of the composers and their works have turned out to be quite this forgettable seems to smack more of the commissions being a vanity project than a promotion.

wordler · 11/01/2026 20:23

CathyorClaire · 11/01/2026 20:17

It's not a pub quiz! It's a moment to promote Britain.

Well if that was the intention, the fact such a high proportion of the composers and their works have turned out to be quite this forgettable seems to smack more of the commissions being a vanity project than a promotion.

I don’t know if you’d call it a vanity project. I think there are many that believe encouraging and supporting the creation of cultural arts to intrinsically have value.

Composers have always had patrons - I don’t know much about that part of the arts but I imagine it’s harder to get commissions in a modern world obsessed with internet ‘shorts’.

I think Charles could be criticized for many aspects of his spending but supporting the arts is not one I find extreme.

Rhaidimiddim · 11/01/2026 20:29

CathyorClaire · 11/01/2026 20:17

It's not a pub quiz! It's a moment to promote Britain.

Well if that was the intention, the fact such a high proportion of the composers and their works have turned out to be quite this forgettable seems to smack more of the commissions being a vanity project than a promotion.

Building a career as a composer is a slow business. These commissions will have provided income, and enhanced a CV.

wordler · 11/01/2026 20:35

Well it piqued my interest because I had not watched the full coronation at the time so missed the music programme. I read the Classic FM run down of the music and it sounds like an amazing blend of the old and the new. Including the first Welsh composer to be included in a coronation and the first gospel choir to sing at a coronation.

I will not link the Classic FM website because the functionality of their site is a horrible mess and very hard to scroll but I am sure there are better articles out there too.

Green2013 · 11/01/2026 20:38

Cheese55 · 04/01/2026 14:35

As if..his funeral had been planned for years with him choosing the hymns etc

Well everyone is entitled to plan their own funeral aren’t they?!?!

Green2013 · 11/01/2026 20:41

HoppityBun · 08/01/2026 22:00

I often think that about the RF and other prominent, rich Christians. They can’t really believe that, can they.

I mean, there are different interpretations of this verse. It can be taken to mean that you need to be generous, not that you literally need to live as a pauper.

Otherwise nobody in the west (the richest 10-20% on earth of or something?) would be going to heaven whilst they live with their paid off mortgage and holidays. That money could be going to orphans.

TheCurious0range · 11/01/2026 20:45

jeffgoldblum · 04/01/2026 14:30

Ultimately it won’t matter what Charles wants for his funeral, the government at that time will dictate what and how big it will be.

Oh crikey can you imagine if it's a reform government!!!

Twonewcats · 12/01/2026 06:30

CathyorClaire · 11/01/2026 20:17

It's not a pub quiz! It's a moment to promote Britain.

Well if that was the intention, the fact such a high proportion of the composers and their works have turned out to be quite this forgettable seems to smack more of the commissions being a vanity project than a promotion.

But possibly classical music fans do remember them.
Similarly, I watch Jools Hootenanny, and every year there's someone I've never heard of, but it's made me find more of their stuff to listen to.

CathyorClaire · 12/01/2026 09:53

I think Charles could be criticized for many aspects of his spending but supporting the arts is not one I find extreme.

Supporting the arts is fine but the entire cost of C3's coronation (the most expensive in 300 years) came from the taxpayer's pocket, not his.

If the royals want additional bells and whistles at their knees-ups they should pay for them.

Twonewcats · 12/01/2026 13:07

TheCurious0range · 11/01/2026 20:45

Oh crikey can you imagine if it's a reform government!!!

It's getting less likely, now Nadhim Zahawi has defected!

Ohpleeeease · 12/01/2026 13:54

CathyorClaire · 12/01/2026 09:53

I think Charles could be criticized for many aspects of his spending but supporting the arts is not one I find extreme.

Supporting the arts is fine but the entire cost of C3's coronation (the most expensive in 300 years) came from the taxpayer's pocket, not his.

If the royals want additional bells and whistles at their knees-ups they should pay for them.

The government decided on the scale of the Coronation. They wanted the bells and whistles.

RainbowBagels · 12/01/2026 15:13

CathyorClaire · 05/01/2026 21:50

And you cannot beat a bit of Zadok the Priest belting out for dramatic crescendo

I wonder then why C felt the need to commission twelve new pieces.

And not one of them was a new National Anthem- one that wasn't such a horrific dirge and, more importantly, one that celebrated the country and its inhabitants, as a National Anthem is supposed to do!

Twonewcats · 12/01/2026 18:27

RainbowBagels · 12/01/2026 15:13

And not one of them was a new National Anthem- one that wasn't such a horrific dirge and, more importantly, one that celebrated the country and its inhabitants, as a National Anthem is supposed to do!

As the great Billy Connolly said, we get lapped in the opening ceremonies by those with jaunty anthems 😆

wordler · 12/01/2026 18:33

What’s really weird is hearing the tune used for an American patriotic song.

user38 · 12/01/2026 18:42

Various of the arrangements are made years and years in advance (DH has a role where he would be involved). There is a process basically ready to be set in motion.

CathyorClaire · 12/01/2026 20:19

Ohpleeeease · 12/01/2026 13:54

The government decided on the scale of the Coronation. They wanted the bells and whistles.

'Damn politicos interfering when all one really wanted was a quick shiny hat drop, a CD of Zadok and the plebs admiring one's pared down restraint' 😁

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/01/2026 20:44

Rhaidimiddim · 11/01/2026 20:29

Building a career as a composer is a slow business. These commissions will have provided income, and enhanced a CV.

I get the bit about a royal commission enhancing a CV, @Rhaidimiddim - though never ask me why - but are you sure the musicians were paid?

Only there are many reports of Charles expecting such things for free, and regarding an invoice as an affront

BettysRoasties · 12/01/2026 20:49

People like to see a first. So the queens funeral huge. The coronation huge.

So kings death will likely not attract as much individual attention one been there done that only a few years ago and two short lived king.

I expect the same with willies coronation because we will of only seen one so recently.

For many people now they will live through a few head deaths and coronations making them not so special.

Also old people inheriting king titles is a bit yeah ok cool… now what.

RunningOnEmptyLegs · 12/01/2026 20:51

user1492757084 · 04/01/2026 03:14

Of course many people will show their respects.
KCharles has done a lot for the environment, preservation of buildings and for minority groups, and he is a kind and generous soul.
He is being the best King he can manage - and not drawing attention to his major health battles.
It's very unfair that his health is not robust.

A kind and generous soul? 😳 Er no, he really isn’t kind or generous.

RunningOnEmptyLegs · 12/01/2026 20:53

Ohpleeeease · 12/01/2026 13:54

The government decided on the scale of the Coronation. They wanted the bells and whistles.

You seriously think that Charles didn’t oversee the whole thing - he’s been waiting his whole damn life for that pantomime, there was no way he didn’t sign off ALL the bells and whistles 🙄

BettysRoasties · 12/01/2026 20:57

RunningOnEmptyLegs · 12/01/2026 20:53

You seriously think that Charles didn’t oversee the whole thing - he’s been waiting his whole damn life for that pantomime, there was no way he didn’t sign off ALL the bells and whistles 🙄

Had his own version of a Pinterest board I reckon. Like women who have folders planning their dream weddings since they where little.

milveycrohn · 13/01/2026 12:58

Actually, to an earlier poster, the Royals do NOT actually like the 'gaudy gold coach', as it has no or little suspension. However, the coach already exists, and generally resides in London Museum (or did when I last saw it, many years ago), so no reason why it can't be used for a coronation.
Of course, even if Charles did not have cancer, his reign is obviously going to be a lot shorter than the late Queen. I would like to think that his funeral, whenever it is, is appropriate to the length of his reign, remembering he is also King of much (not all) of the Commonwealth as well.
Personally, I neither like nor dislike the royals. I went through a phase when I thought they should be abolished, but i'm more OK about it now.
I think in time, there will be no royals, but it will be when there is no one interested to turn out.
No, I have never queued to see any royal family member, nor stood in a queue to file past a coffin. (I once saw Charles and Ann on an engagement, during my lunch hour once, but that was about 50 years ago, and frankly due to the crowds, one could not see much anyway).
So, I think a funeral shoudl reflect the age and length of reign, etc.
I would be more concerned about not having an opulent coronation. (I still can't bear to watch Charles' coronation).
Surprisingly, I actually thought Philip's funeral very moving, probably because it was 'slimmed' down due to Covid. But disliked the later memorial service, which I gave up on half way through.

simpsonthecat · 13/01/2026 13:16

Actually, to an earlier poster, the Royals do NOT actually like the 'gaudy gold coach', as it has no or little suspension. However, the coach already exists, and generally resides in London Museum (or did when I last saw it, many years ago), so no reason why it can't be used for a coronation

That's actually not true I don't think.
A new gold carriage was built for the RF in Australia which includes soft suspension and aircon and stabilisers.
He used the old carriage for his return from coronation but the new one for his journey there
And I believe there is another one being built for him with all mod cons 😲
Everyone needs three of course 😱