Hopefully Charles has many healthy years ahead but……

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When Charles dies, will the number of people willing to pay their respects as he lies in state be as high? Will he have similar funeral arrangements as the late Queen? Or will arrangements be reduced in keeping with Charles’ pledge to slim down the RF and public costs?

Do you think that given Charles’ reign will be significantly shorter than his mothers, that the public will appreciate such large/expensive arrangements so soon after the passing of Her Majesty.

QE2 planned her funeral, why wouldn't Charles?
He is a religious man I believe, of course he would plan it.

This is such a grotesquely vulture-like thread op.

I meant normally the Monarch is pulled along on a gun carriage. I watched Prince Philip’s , it was beautiful and better for being simpler.

"It's very unfair that his health is not robust."

In comparison to the general population, he is actually in excellent health for his age.

I don’t think the public reaction will be comparable to the late Queen simply because her reign was notable for its length and the world wide recognition she’d gained over the years.

So I doubt we’ll see ‘The Queue’ again although presumably there will be some version of laying in state for people to visit.

Going to be odd for William if he and Harry are still estranged as he tries to cope with grief while doing all that new King admin in the public eye.

I imagine it will be a range of emotions from ‘meh’ to ‘Oh well’.

😂wow

That's just the circumstances of a strange time and it wouldn't have been like that normally, so wasn't low in numbers due to him asking for it to be like that. Many families/ friends had to put up with low numbers during Covid and having even less people in some cases.

Hopefully he’ll read the room before he dies and scale things down for his own funeral plans.

I think it’s a valid point for public discussion when state funerals are funded by the public.

A religious man that wanted nothing more than to be Camilla Parker-Bowles' tampon. A religious man that committed adultery from the very outset of his marriage to the 19 year old Diana. A religious man that gave succour to the paedophile Bishop of Gloucester. Give me fucking strength.

The point is that there is no reason why people shouldn't plan their own funerals. In fact it's to be encouraged. It's the ridiculous assertion from PP that when the queens husband died, he 'didnt want any fuss' when he knew his funeral would be a whole load of fuss and he wanted it that way.

Actually I think people are misremembering and mixing up two different things. It was reported before he died that he’d been firm on not wanting any kind of big public fuss about his upcoming 100th birthday. I think there had been speculation on the possibility of some sort of public celebration and he shut that down.

In the end he didn’t make it to 100 and the funeral was automatically restricted by Covid so as well as the reduced number in the chapel they also didn’t want to encourage any public gathering so held it self contained within the walls of Windsor castle.

Without Covid it would probably have been a bigger event in London.

I actually think there may be protests at his funeral, especially after Andrew's links to Epstein. People are sick of the elites stealing desperately needed funds from the public purse just to spaff it all away on dodgy deals, holidays and young girls. I can't wait for the monarchy to be abolished and the funds to be redirected to the NHS.

And before anyone says "but tourism..", are you really telling me you want our nation to be famous for it's pedophiles? We have far nicer aspects of our culture that we should be promoting on the international scene.

No. Get rid.

Don’t be silly. Monarchs’ funerals are elaborately planned and rehearsed for years. Operation Menai Bridge is well under way.

Sadly I think Charles won't be around by the end of this year or next ..he looks very unwell. The teenagers and those in their twenties don't care about the royal family and tbh since the queen died support has died, Andrew and Harry not helping..it's an interesting time coming up ..just hoping we don't get a Trump situation...

Hopefully he is but I agree he looks unwell. I don’t think Harry is the issue, but Andrew’s behaviour, the Queen paying off his rape victim, the family not acting fast enough and seemingly covering his behaviour have all lost the royals a lot of support amongst people I know.

I agree it's very unfair. Especially after waiting so long.

I don't think there'll be quite the same reaction when he dies because he won't have been king for very long compared to his mother. I think there'll be a fair bit of public respect though.

But I don't think the government will care about the expense, and I predict the Royal family will be more aware of the public mood with regards to spending several millions of pounds of our money on his funeral.

The government and the BBC will be their usual grovelling selves. The Royal family will probably be rolling their eyes at them in private.

The Prince’s Trust (now the King’s Trust) has changed lives.

I’m not a royalist, and believe we could now do without them, but this is a really effective charity which has helped many young people.

Why would we get a “Trump situation”?

We don't even have the set up for a "Trump situation" because we have a PM.

A president would be more like Ireland's probably - I mean we'd be starting from scratch.

Some people like to say we'd have a Trump or Blair or whatever to make it sound like we couldn't have a sensible type of democracy with a sensible president.

Exactly. It's said with disturbing regularity on monarchy threads to try to make a ridiculously anachronistic throwback sound like the best option.

Of course a presidency would be more like Ireland's -- a largely ceremonial role, with no political clout and a salary pegged to the stop of the civil servant scale, a term of seven years, a maximum of two terms, and the loan of a house, car, plane, staff etc.

There's no particular reason for it to attract politicians or former politicians. All you need to be to be eligible in Ireland is to be a citizen who is over 35. The process of running involves you needing to get a minimum number of serving Oireachtas members to support you, or a minimum number of city or county councils.

It’s a shame that KC will be judged on how he shaped up as King, given that for most of his life he was the Prince of Wales and made a pretty good job of it.

QE2’s funeral was a moment in time, her reign was historic and spanned many decades. I would be surprised to see something on quite the same scale but the funeral of a HoS is always going to be a major national event.

On what basis do you think he made a 'pretty good job of it'?

Well I think the (former) Prince’s Trust was a great achievement.
He also spoke out on environmental issues, controversially and ahead of his time. whilst he was in a position to do so.
He’s been a good custodian of the property under his remit.
And there was no template, he made the job his own. So on the whole, not perfect but pretty good.