Further pr discussions with the lone gunman now in charge!

[jeffgoldblum]

im hoping that @Atlusvuewill not mind me continuing her work, I have a feeling that there is more to discuss and come!

Wise words, Jeff ... nothing wrong with honest differences of opinion
, but the name calling and silliness really doesn't need to be given oxygen

And yes, the attack on the charity - overseen by Liam or not - was very foolish

Predictable though

Indeed but it’ll have been written and approved by H&M (mainly M) … I very much doubt Liam did much except play the scapegoat part if necessary

I don't believe that Meghan is taking the lead here. I think it's Harry pushing the narrative against Sentebele assuming everyone will agree with him. It won't cross his mind that attacking his own charity is a terrible thing to do and makes him look worse than if he said nothing.

Just took a look at Reddit. Apparently my restrained attempts to be the voice of reason aren't going down too well. I think some of these people live very sheltered lives. 😁

My main concern is Harry going after the First Amendment and trying to have US tax payers fund his security. 😡

Shouldn’t worry @BemusedAmerican , in my experience accusations are normally confessions.

My main concern is Harry going after the First Amendment and trying to have US tax payers fund his security.

I would be interested in this. I only dip in and out but have never seen Harry expecting the US to fund his security?
Do you have a link on that?
Muchas gracias

He wants IPP status (which he only had briefly when representing QE2 on overseas tours), IPP security costs are borne fully by the hosting country, which since he lives in the US will be US taxpayers.

Prince Harry’s security row is 'all about the money' - he wants to 'cut his own costs & try to win back status' https://share.google/8ceUtJF7iVO3AB5Gb

The Sun! 🤣

You wanted a link, I gave you one. It was the 1st one that came up.

What about the reporting do you deem inadequate? What about the reporting do you dispute? Or is it a snobbish poo poohing of "The Sun"???

Here's another.
Prince Harry's possible endgame in security row could cost US taxpayers https://share.google/r6g0RgPdxkQyiaZzR

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry remove online claim they’re ‘internationally protected people’ entitled to bodyguards | https://share.google/fz0iT5EMaWFC2thEu

Read the room, Prince Harry: you walked away from the UK – why should we pay for your security? | The Independent https://share.google/yOLN7SItqPyIZHkOH

The result was stripping me of the protection I’ve had since birth, whilst signalling to all other governments to do the same.

His own statement revealed exactly what he wants.

This is the quote I was thinking of in my earlier post but couldn’t put my finger on, thanks for posting, @BigWillyLittleTodgerit was driving me nuts!

The thing is even if by a long shot he got awarded 24 hour armed security around the world does he actually think that it would be a permanent feature until the day he dies? His status is reducing by the day, why on earth would our government or any government pay for some random far from the throne middle aged non working Prince?

You are very welcome @Ohpleeeease 🤗

Thanks for the links @MrsFinkelstein.
He doesn’t get it does he ?

There is also the fact that currently, as @BemusedAmerican has told us before, when Harry or Meghan visit New York they receive an NYPD security detail - presumably US taxpayer funded.

This causes some discontent given the other calls on policing in New York.

https://pagesix.com/2024/09/27/royal-family/prince-harry-rolls-up-to-nyc-tattoo-shop-with-nypd-security-personnel/

Because we all know the danger in upscale tatoo parlors.

https://pagesix.com/2025/04/11/royal-family/meghan-markle-hires-over-the-top-motorcade-for-broadway-night/

Because we all need an unmarked NYPD car to pad out our security while attending the theater.

ignore and carry on ladies ❤️

Agree with @BemusedAmerican about the ludicrous nature of H&M security in NYC. I hope to goodness we don't see this replicated in the UK. Bespoke arrangements fine. For a private person visiting their family I reckon they can be just fine.

Anyhow I just reread the Times article referenced upthread about advice for H&M I thought it was great - but on second reading this I think they really really should take on board "To both of you, I say: Instead of just showing up to collect humanitarian of the year awards, try doing actual humanitarian work. "

Amen to that . You are not players on a world stage - yes you get lots of publicity , but don't represent anyone but yourselves, and Archewell Philanthropies , well , the Gates Foundation , it aint.

I don't know what 2026 will bring for them but they are , to my view, becoming increasingly Ruritanian parodies of themselves. & whilst I have no training , qualifications or experience in PR , I would say, as a layperson , not all publicity is good publicity.

After giving us 'doorbell gate' in a residential road in Fulham and on a separate occasion ordering up a Deliveroo, I don't think he feels unsafe in the U.K. at all, just unimportant. He has over promised and under delivered to his wife on this and he needs to 'fix it' and thinks he can do this at U.K./US taxpayers expense. Bespoke when he is in U.K. for visiting family is sufficient and he can cough up himself for anything more. The taxpayer is not here to massage his fragile ego.

So much for my post ⬆️!:

https://archive.ph/5FiDD

Looks like he'll get his way on armed guards if this article and 'sources close to the couple' are correct.

“Sources close to the Sussexes” seem to be blabbing, while “a spokesman for the Sussexes” cannot comment. Really?

Those blabbing sources are implying that although Harry has now won the protection fight, the Palace could scupper it if they wished. It’s a subtle reminder of Harry’s previous assertion that the Palace could have sorted the matter in his favour, but failed to intervene. It also paves the way for another row with Papa should things not go Harry’s way.

I don’t feel I can give much credence to these sources, after all, they are being briefed by Harry, and it’s hard to know what’s really going on in his three remaining synapses.

If there is an increased risk of course his security would be reviewed and upgraded. That was always the bespoke arrangement. This is Harry putting spin on the situation to suggest he has won when in reality nothing has changed.

He has to put the dig in about the palace when once again nothing has changed. They haven't interfered in the past to block anything, the only evidence we have is that the late Queen once wrote asking that he receive security. There is no evidence of blocking.

It's just Harry claiming victory in a battle only he was fighting. Everyone else in the equation is just doing their job, either adjusting to changed circumstances or staying out of it as appropriate. He really is pathetic.

Of course it doesn't solve Harry's financial problems because it's just a change to his security provision whilst he is here. It's not IPP status because he doesn't qualify.