Andrew asked Ghislaine Maxwell if she’d found him some new inappropriate friends.

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More email revelations.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/23/epstein-files-email-a-balmoral-ghislaine-maxwell-inappropriate-friends

Quite.

The rape apologists, Andrew apologists and victim blamers are disgusting. The narrative of these ‘poor men’, like Andrew, being ‘manipulated’ by Epstein, as if they were naive and vulnerable, instead of the very powerful and knowing men that they were, just because one of the wealthy adult men is a member of their precious RF. The lengths they’ll go to to protect him. Disgusting,

Quite.

Plus a small army at home to pick up the slack so - people to make and manage the best possible food for you, clean your home, launder your clothes, take care of the children and so on.

Holistic care on tap like personal trainers etc.

No worries about your job or your finances.

No worries about getting to and from appointments.

People who can come and help you feel good again - doing your hair, massage you, give facials and so on - if you want that.

Read the thread from the mother with a life ending diagnosis and three children - it will give you a little insight into the what happens on the other end of the wealth scale. Heartbreaking.

Wealth buys privilege across all sectors of life, except perhaps love?

The first video that ran of that scene at the funeral has Willam and Andrew share a joke.

It was cleaned up afterwards.

That photo shows nothing.

Just another desperate attempt to make William look good. He’s not. Obviously he’s not in the league of Andrew, but he’s still doesn’t come out of this shit show well.

Wonder who else Epstein and Maxwell fixed up with inappropriate friends.

Yes. It is looking like Epstein and Maxwell were doing the "vetting", so the rich and famous could do their stuff without fear of being plastered over the tabloids. It begs the question" what was the cost".

What access was Andrew giving in return for the access he got ?

This is the problem with the lot ofvthem. People werent ' friends with a man widely considered to be an arrogant, childish , dimwitted bore for his sparkling personality. They wanted access. To the King, to someone who would schmooze forelock tugging politicians etc. The minor Royals are all vulnerable to it. They enjoy being flattered, they are surrounded by people richer than them and they have access to powerful people. Its a recipe for people cleverer and more cunning to take advantage of them.

What is find hardest to stomach, is that all of Andrew’s ‘activities’ were funded by us, the taxpayers. He lived his life travelling the world as an ‘envoy’ and apparently procuring young girls on the way through Epstein and Maxwell. It’s utterly shocking. State funded paedophilia. I do hope there is a FULL investigation and prosecution because the evidence accumulates every single day.

It won't happen. He travelled with a security detail who would have seen much of what happened and I presume reported back as to what happened, who was there etc. As long as there wasn't a diplomatic incident or something to make headlines news then everything was ok or filed away jic. Where are those reports?

Thats the line the machine has taken to make us idiots fall for yet another generation of agreeing to this lunancy.

Kate might not be happy but she married into the family and there has to be a united front. No one is going to Court or talking to the FBI. Keep him out of the way and say nothing. Get some happy family pics of dresses, children and lovely outfits and the plebs won't burn down the forever homes or stop buying Duchy biscuits. Noticed how many magazines had her on the cover recently. Hello, We Love Royals etc. PR campaign will be working on this

In normal, traditional families where people don't go NC and all that you just have to put up with the dodgy relative, you may see them now and then, doesn't mean you like them, but there are familial links through them to other relatives.

Today I'll be down the pub having a pint with my convicted murdered, served 14 years, cousin - he's a thoroughly despicable and shitty bloke, pompous, and self serving, but his wife (second wife, the first he bumped off, hence the jail time) and daughter are my family too, so similarly we avoid as much as humanly possible sparing the feelings of said wife and daughter (who for some unknown reason love him).

Woah. A cousin isn't really a close family member.

A few differences. You’re not the RF, Andrew has served no prison time, his family will have known about this and actively covered things up for him until more came out, he was involved in what could be the largest and most powerful paedophile and sex trafficking ring in history….and importantly all while the public have paid for Andrew and the rest of them. The RF could see his daughters without him and if the daughters didn’t want to because they’re standing by their disgusting father, who would want to see them anyway.

There are no excuses here, the minimising to make the RF look like they’re good in this, really doesn’t wash. They have been, and continue to be, complicit.

And no, normal families don’t hang around either murderers, they cut them off and deal with the consequences.

Stop minimising and justifying this disgusting families behaviour. Thankfully more people seem to be seeing them for what they are ever since the Queen paid off a victim that Andrew raped whilst very much standing by him. Going horse riding with him like nothing had happened. Fucking disgusting the lot of them.

There is no way I would be going down the pub with someone who murdered their wife, but thats by the by. They didnt only see him at formal occasions. William has driven him to events and stuck his wife in the back of the car so that everyone could see his support. They have a fleet of cars and drivers at their disposal so he didnt have to. He has often been seen out rifing with his late mother andchiscsiblings ( not Charles, who I may believe cant stand him)He, his grandmother, his aunt and uncle were all holding the line that he was a member of the family that they supported. There is more evidence that they couldnt care less about his behaviour and only took action when outside scrutiny started affecting them than that they were so disgusted that they never see him unless they have to at formal occasions.

Exactly.

So many people keen to minimise and excuse these disgusting people. Weird.

Agreed.

We've also had nonsense touted about W wanting RL vacated because he didn't want the latest forever home situated anywhere he might run into MW yet apparently it's not an issue where the Norfolk forever home is concerned.

So much contradiction.

Sandringham is out of the way, a private estate so easier to hide there. Andrew made the mistakes of emails and pics. Family prob didn't know/ask or may have just been informed but times change and he was caught out. Going back after the jail time and SF emailing were big mistakes.

Having sex with trafficked women, esp young girls has always been wrong...

The Royals knew very well what he was doing, they have security pouring out of their ears....
Epstein etc even went and stayed at Royal Palaces, the RF all thought they could get away with their behaviours as they always have done.

Its defies belief that these people at Epsteins parties didn't know why these women/girls were there... vast majority of men will fuck any "Available" female if they think they can get away with it.

The whole sorry saga is a lesson in cover-up, release the papers, put the spotlight on Andrew and follow with "i had no idea why i was being surrounded with hoards of good looking women"

So the being found out is worse than procuring young prostitutes for his entertainment? Yes that is probably what the Royals thought too..

There's an interesting PR podcast called 'When it hits the fan'. They talk about all kinds of PR stories in the news, and often cover royal ones.

One point they often make is that the timeline for royalty is very different to celebrity - decades rather than months.

As if the RF have no scandals. Trick is to not let the commoners know.

The RF have never addressed Lord Mountbatten being a serial rapist of children in Kincora Boys Home in Belfast.
They are complicit in hiding child sexual abusers.

Never mind their staff who desperately try to cover their tracks. The RF need to develop some sense of morality. All these trips to church clearly aren’t improving their characters.

I can't get my head around a man abusing girls the same ages as his daughters.
Or Willam and Kate, looking at Charlotte, not being utterly repulsed by what Andrew did and insisting he is arrested.