Duke of Sussex security to be reviewed

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The Duke of Sussex lost his argument in the Court of Appeal in May for automatic taxpayer security: the current arrangement is that his security needs are assessed on a case-by-case basis provided he gives notice.

He has recently been in touch with the new Home Secretary, and the latest update is that RAVEC has asked its Risk Management Board (RMB) to reassess his threat level.

Telegraph archive link

@Cardomomlewhat precisely is unfair about carrying out a review of security arrangements after 5 years?

I have clearly touched a nerve!

Also Ukraine. And it's too dangerous for him to stay in Buckingham Palace.

It is an issue of anyone feeling unsafe! Joe Bloggs or Prince Harry! I don’t care. The UK is supposed to be a safe and welcoming country.
There have been many credible threats to Harry and his family. There was an abduction plan thwarted by the police aimed at Archie when they lived in Windsor. There have been many dangerous incidents with journalists tailing them in a reckless manner in London.

Harry has repeatedly said he will pay for security but there is no mechanism for that in the UK currently.

Prince Harry does need security in the UK as do Meghan and their children. Many organisations review policies more frequently than every 5 years so a review for PH's needs is not unreasonable. Perhaps they are reviewing other people's needs at the same time.

I thought the court case was about how PH wanted to hire UK police officers for his security detail when in the UK and that was denied because then any private citizen would potentially be able to do the same and that is not the purpose of UK police forces.

In the same court case, I thought they pointed out to him that if he stayed with his family, he'd have all the same, highest level security.

[and staying with family should be an easy option - there are plenty other MN threads to calculate how many empty rooms the royal family has where he and M and the kids could stay: e.g. Apartment 1A at KP is frequently vacant ... there are his and PW's old rooms at Clarence House ... Royal Lodge will soon be vacant ... Adelaide Cottage is now empty ... There are probably some suites at Buck House ... Bagshot Park House is full of empty rooms ...]

It's not a question of deserving IIP status. They don't fall into any of the categories proscribed for a person to be an IIP.

They will have had armed security personnel with them during those visits. Security with access to information around any potential threats and plots. Both of which has been denied in the UK.

Many credible threats ? Do you have some links ? Also , the kidnapping Archie plot ? Journalists chasing them ??
We know there was a plot to kidnap George but I haven’t heard about Archie being in danger .

It is an issue of anyone feeling unsafe! Joe Bloggs or Prince Harry!

Really? So all anyone needs to do is say they don't 'feel' safe and a taxpayer funded review of their security will be done? So Harry the construction worker who moved to Australia with his family 5 years ago gets a security review because he doesn't 'feel' it's safe to bring his family home?

Really?

There have been many credible threats to Harry and his family.

Have you told RAVEC about that? I'm sure they don't have access to the sort of information available to random folks on the internet.

Harry has repeatedly said he will pay for security but there is no mechanism for that in the UK currently.

No 'offer to pay' was ever received by the relevant body.

And there will never be any 'mechanism' for wealthy expats to 'pay for security.' Imageine the implications. It would be an absolutely rubbish idea, which is why no developed country permits it.

Why are you just making stuff up?

People on this thread are well informed and know that Harry and his family have not been 'denied' armed security if deemed neccessary. They just can't expect to waltz over to record a twerking video or give a pay per play speech and expect highly trained, in demand specialist officers to hang around twiddling their thumbs in anticipation of their visit.

People aren’t “frothing”, they object because even reviewing his security risk comes at a cost. This has been done to death. If Harry doesn’t feel safe coming to the UK, don’t come. The rest of us have to make that risk assessment when we travel to unsafe destinations and we don’t have the luxury of protection if we decide to go against advice.

I too think it is reasonable for RAVEC to review the threat level to Harry and family after six years. However, the timing is bad for the Royal family if the committee concedes he/they should have armed security when in the UK. The Public Accounts Committee is about to probe the Crown Estate's 'deals' with the royals and tension is rising over how much the UK monarchy costs.

A good outcome would be that the threat level has fallen and the current security arrangement is adequate. This is quite likely as Harry is far less relevant than he was in 2018/9 and therefore less of a target.

Sadly, H is so entitled that whatever is granted will be inadequate and we will have to listen to him telling us that.

I'd say it's unlikely that the results would be made public. They could be 'leaked' like the existence of this review was, but I doubt there would be any sort of official announcement. Security arrangements are usually considered highly confidential, but Harry in his wisdom has made a circus of the whole thing.

If he and Meghan bring the children to meet Charles, they will be accommodated at Windsor or which ever royal pile, along with the security that comes with it. They will be perfectly safe.
What Harry wanted was to come over, swan around the UK with his film crews and be protected by Scotland Yard, which we the taxpayers fund.
That ain't happening and correctly so

I didn't mean to imply that the results would be made public. Harry will no doubt tell us the outcome 😆

Apparently Harry is going to present his own evidence of the danger he is in…..I hope the board don’t take what he presents at face value. Isn’t it interesting that he can write to the Home Secretary and he gets a review, talk about privilege in full display.

Maybe it would be better if Harry doesn’t risk his life visiting the U.K. ? After all no one seems particularly bothered about seeing him and pretty sure if they were they could book a flight to LA .

Apparently Harry is going to present his own evidence of the danger he is in…..I hope the board don’t take what he presents at face value.

That sounds kind of like me demanding medical treatment which doctors have said is unnecessary. So I present my own 'evidence' to convince the experts that they are wrong. Which of course they will chuck straight in the bin, as I'm sure the security experts will with Harry's 'evidence'.

Isn’t it interesting that he can write to the Home Secretary and he gets a review, talk about privilege in full display.

Do we know that this review was not already scheduled? 5 years seems like a good time to do a review, especially as Harry is now son as opposed to grandson of the monarch.

You've got the wrong poster. I never claimed that!
No nerve touched, believe me! 😂

True! He has to stay at a hotel. Of course.

He just wants to swan about feeling important as William, it’s hurt his ego to the very core that he just isn’t that important and he can’t stand it.

Yes, his own version of the outcome!

He can't have whatever security he wants or feels he needs. But I dont want to pay for it. He has plenty of money and so has his family.

‘It is understood a Home Office review will now look at whether he should automatically receive full police protection on visits to the UK even though he is no longer a working member of the royal family.’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx25nk0kx58o

He better bloody not

Harry doesn’t even live in the UK, why should he get security paid for by the taxpayers he can only insult.

Does that mean the likes of the Clooney’s and their kids should have paid for security when they are in the UK, Amal must be at huge risk, she has taken on corrupt governments and terrorist organizations.

I think with his latest onslaught of jibes at Trump, he should be careful in the US, plenty nautical there ready and able to take someone out.

That sounds kind of like me demanding medical treatment which doctors have said is unnecessary. So I present my own 'evidence' to convince the experts that they are wrong. Which of course they will chuck straight in the bin, as I'm sure the security experts will with Harry's 'evidence'.

No doubt the nearly catastrophic car chase will be used and the apparently crazed Sussex Squad super fan who follows him around, and anything else he can conveniently cook up.

Do we know that this review was not already scheduled? 5 years seems like a good time to do a review, especially as Harry is now son as opposed to grandson of the monarch.

Not that I’ve heard, all seems a bit convenient and pulling the privilege card to me that he writes to the HS and suddenly there is a review.