Duke of Sussex security to be reviewed

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The Duke of Sussex lost his argument in the Court of Appeal in May for automatic taxpayer security: the current arrangement is that his security needs are assessed on a case-by-case basis provided he gives notice.

He has recently been in touch with the new Home Secretary, and the latest update is that RAVEC has asked its Risk Management Board (RMB) to reassess his threat level.

Telegraph archive link

They are, of course. It all aids Harry's continuing victimhood, though.

That was hilarious. 😂

Reread what I have written. That is exactly what I have stated. But you’re too blinded by your own bias to see it.
Like it or not Harry is the son of our monarch. The risk to him and his family is real. There are people out there who would harm them and therefore the risk level should be known.

Indeed.

And despite the hype in the article over Harry’s threat level, the fact remains that in all the times he’s been over here visiting since his security was downgraded, there hasn’t been a single instance where he’s been in immediate danger or his security has been proved inadequate.

I’m sure almost every celebrity and public figure has some disturbed individuals who are fixated on them, but they don’t all receive full time police protection - no reason Harry should either.

I’m just sick to death of his whinging about the issue to be honest. The best outcome would be that they downgrade his threat level after the risk assessment - it would be quite funny if the outcome was that he lost his bespoke provision as a result, in a case of “be careful what you wish for”

"blinded by your own bias"
😂😂
Right. Bingo, the personal attack. Predictable.
Look, you may be a huge fan of Harry - your choice. However, looking fairly at security arrangements does not indicate "bias" (sic).
Just logical thought.

Why does this need to be spelled out every single time?
We know he's the son of the monarch.
We know he's behaved like an idiot and created security risks.
We know he will get top level security, completely appropriate and paid for by the taxpayers
I really don't know how anyone can defend him and his entitlement, time after time.

The headline publicity is just fuelling this hate - it is automatic to review decisions periodically, he hasn't 'won' anything! Pot stirring at its finest.

Their travelling to other countries is material.
Nigeria? Colombia?
Yet he's too scared to go in a special limousine to Westminster Abbey filled with senior royals, heads of state and politicians.
Yet ok to knock on random doors in London.

You can't be 'awarded' IPP status. You get it as a result of being a high level diplomat or government official. Harry is not and never has been. There is no chance of him ever 'getting' IPP status. It's a complete red herring.

I agree with the rest of your post though. Harry's security is already kept under continuous monitoring and as long as he provides adequate notice of his visits, he will be given whatever security is deemed appropriate. I highly doubt this review will change that.

I don’t think there’s any problem doing another risk assessment, it probably makes sense to do so to establish the current threat level (although I don’t know how this really differs from the bespoke arrangement where his security provision is worked out on a case by case basis for each visit according to need - because I assumed that included some level of risk assessment)

But just being son of the monarch doesn’t mean his threat level is high. Anne and Edward only have police protection while on official duties, that’s the same now as it was when they were children of the monarch and now are sister and brother to the King.

At present Harry does not feel safe bringing his wife and children to the UK. That is an issue. Nobody should be feeling like it isn’t safe to bring your family back to this country.

It is not an 'issue' at all.

Armed police protection is granted based on high level analysis of the current threat level, as well as an assessment of the impact of any attack on national security. Harry's 'feelings' don't enter into it.

If your average Harry 'didn't feel safe' bringing his family to Britain, would he be granted armed security at taxpayer expense? Or do feelz only matter if you are an exiled Prince?

I’ve seen in another article that what prompted this risk assessment review was security breaches on Harry’s most recent visit to the U.K. when a “known stalker” managed to get within a few feet of him.

Reports online are that this supposed stalker is a member of the Sussex squad who has been pictured with Harry on various occasions and attended events with them as an invited guest

it would be very convenient wouldn’t it, if this security breach by one of their own fans, was used to support his argument that he needs increased taxpayer funded security

... despite the hype in the article over Harry’s threat level, the fact remains that in all the times he’s been over here visiting since his security was downgraded, there hasn’t been a single instance where he’s been in immediate danger or his security has been proved inadequate

Exactly, @elessar, but this is why it wouldn't surprise me at all to see another supposed "car chase" or whatever the idiot feels might support his case, and it certainly wouldn't be the first silly stunt he'd pulled

Very interesting point, @elessar 🤔

Has Harry paid the legal costs for his failed Judicial Review? Including the appeal? The costs supposedly run well into the hundreds of thousands, and as the HO effectively used taxpayer money to defend against his stupid vanity case, I think the public has a right to know if Harry paid up.

My cousin never flies with his wife as they have three boys (the eldest has autism) unless the boys are on the flight with them,

Harry and his wife are private citizens, I don’t understand why they fly together to dangerous locations and leave their children behind. Why don’t they make sensible choices. Lots of people make these decisions all the time.

They don’t deserve IPP status, they should be more responsible in their decisions.

Honestly, he fabricates and lies out of his arse! He gets security, he just needs to give notice! I suspect he feels he shouldn’t t need to give it, but that’s what he’s been given. It’s a crappy reason and a really shitty tool to use saying he can’t bring his children (and wife … we don’t want her here!!!) without security … BUT HE GETS SECURITY as per need and request in an appropriate timeframe. His petulance and sense of entitlement is disgusting

I'm a bit sceptical about the review being prompted by the 'stalker'. Harry's private security had no problem dealing with an unarmed woman, and lots of 'celebrities' have stalkers without needing taxpayer funded police protection.

RAVEC will have access to high level intelligence that none of us have a clue about, and I'd say that's more likely to have prompted the review. That, or after 5 years, this was considered an appropriate time.

South Park nailed it with ‘The Worldwide Privacy Tour’ episode 😂

I'm wondering if it goes like this " Christ that wanker is going on about his security again. He's not going to stop so let's just do a pretend one and he can fuck off for another 5 years. "

He wants what William has . It’s that simple .

Wonder if this was investigated, and if so what the outcome was? If situations are being planned to in reasonable his threat level and the reinstatement of his regular security thereby increasing tax payer costs why was it not reported at the time? Possibly, if this scenario is true Harry is hopeful that Ravec will have to take this into account, as there is the potential Ravec could consider his risk for his next visit low or minimal. In which case he would likely not visit, citing the risk to him from said stalker.

Probably.

The thing is, what Harry wants isn't actually possible. He lives as a private citizen in California now. As the King's son he's not just anyone, but nor is he a high level govt official who requires official security at all times and in all places. He's just not that important.

As such, it's simply not possible for RAVEC to guarantee him full security whenever he deigns to pop over. However, he is fortunate enough that so long as he provides adequate notice, he will be provided with whatever security is deemed appropriate as suggested by sophisticated threat assessments. That is more than fair and generous and it's very hard to see how any 'review' will come to any other conclusion.

Frothing and hate in the one post 👏

But they left out 'living rent free in your head' and 'obsessing over people you don't even know'.

So B- in my book.