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Duke of Sussex security to be reviewed

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bluegreygreen · 08/12/2025 00:54

The Duke of Sussex lost his argument in the Court of Appeal in May for automatic taxpayer security: the current arrangement is that his security needs are assessed on a case-by-case basis provided he gives notice.

He has recently been in touch with the new Home Secretary, and the latest update is that RAVEC has asked its Risk Management Board (RMB) to reassess his threat level.

Telegraph archive link

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Baital · 04/01/2026 08:42

'Sources close to the Sussexes' leaking to the tabloids? I thought that was everything Harry stood against. I hope he manages to track down and get rid of those untrustworthy 'sources'... 😂

TawnyVowel · 04/01/2026 09:22

Baital · 04/01/2026 08:42

'Sources close to the Sussexes' leaking to the tabloids? I thought that was everything Harry stood against. I hope he manages to track down and get rid of those untrustworthy 'sources'... 😂

It’s different though. It’s his truth and therefore his right to do so.

Because he is always right, it’s just that the rest of the world is too stupid to realise it and worship him (them) as they should do, so he has to use the tabloids to make them realise. Unlike everyone else, who use the tabloids against them to spread lies and undermine the DDoS importance and make them look stupid.

None of you understand because you’re all too stupid and have been influenced by the way that other people use the tabloids.

JSMill · 04/01/2026 09:24

TawnyVowel · 04/01/2026 09:22

It’s different though. It’s his truth and therefore his right to do so.

Because he is always right, it’s just that the rest of the world is too stupid to realise it and worship him (them) as they should do, so he has to use the tabloids to make them realise. Unlike everyone else, who use the tabloids against them to spread lies and undermine the DDoS importance and make them look stupid.

None of you understand because you’re all too stupid and have been influenced by the way that other people use the tabloids.

Brilliant post!

Mylovelygreendress · 04/01/2026 09:38

Thedom · 04/01/2026 06:09

A spokesman for the Sussexes said: 'We can't comment on security matters‘

Well based on this laughable comment, I think Harry still doesn’t know if he has been approved or not, because he hasn’t shut up about commenting on security matters for the past 4 years, so I think this is Harry trying to manipulate things from his side.

And yet “ sources “ have spoken ?
I think whoever said that he is setting this up to blame the RF should it not go his way is spot on .
Nasty man .
I still cannot envisage a situation where Meghan will set foot ( or be welcome) near the RF .

Mylovelygreendress · 04/01/2026 09:42

Thedom · 04/01/2026 06:38

Wait for the reunion photo with the kids backsides, being leaked, Archie hanging out of one of Charles legs and Charles stroking Lili’s face smiling beatifically at his long lost grandchildren.

This made me laugh but one thing I am going to say is that I cannot see KC agreeing to any “ reconciliation “ photos . Remember the late Queen refused to have the Lilibet and Lilibet photo ? In fact she refused to allow their personal photographer (!) in the room .

TawnyVowel · 04/01/2026 09:51

Mylovelygreendress · 04/01/2026 09:42

This made me laugh but one thing I am going to say is that I cannot see KC agreeing to any “ reconciliation “ photos . Remember the late Queen refused to have the Lilibet and Lilibet photo ? In fact she refused to allow their personal photographer (!) in the room .

Legend.

Mylovelygreendress · 04/01/2026 10:04

I am only surprised this “ announcement “ wasn’t made on the 9th January.

MrsFinkelstein · 04/01/2026 10:09

IAmATorturedPoet · 04/01/2026 05:08

Seems there may be a bit of a development (if ‘sources close to the Sussexes’ are to be believed):

https://archive.ph/II7F3

One thing I would say, is that article is by Charlotte Griffiths, who is a known friend to the Sussexes. She is a dependable voice who will always put a positive spin on a non story.

I can't imagine the HO/RAVEC is happy with the leaks, it's the exact opposite of how they work.

Whatever the outcome I hope it brings Harry some joy, but I don't see Meghan ever officially visiting the UK again, and I don't see her allowing the children to visit without her. Where that leaves Harry - who knows?

They've had the opportunity to visit privately with top level security since 2019 - all they needed to do was stay with the Monarch as invited at either Balmoral or Sandringham. They chose not to.

Serenster · 04/01/2026 10:11

Baital · 04/01/2026 08:42

'Sources close to the Sussexes' leaking to the tabloids? I thought that was everything Harry stood against. I hope he manages to track down and get rid of those untrustworthy 'sources'... 😂

Their staff is so lean currently that it starts to become very obvious where the story is coming from, even for those who like to believe that the Sussexes don’t talk to the press, surely?

elessar · 04/01/2026 10:14

I said at the time, but how convenient for Harry that this stalker - a Sussex squad member - managed to get close to him just in time for him to demonstrate that he was in danger.

In all honesty, I’m still unsure how an unarmed superfan that was managed perfectly well by his private security demonstrates that he needs armed guards in the UK but there we go.

It sounds like he has been granted what he wants, although I suspect there will still be conditions that he doesn’t like, such as having to give notice of arrival. It also doesn’t mean that the security will automatically extend to his wife and children if they’re not with him.

Really I wish he would just bugger off and stay away from the U.K. so the taxpayer isn’t burdened by the expense of protecting the entitled oaf.

Mylovelygreendress · 04/01/2026 10:19

Rebecca English ( DM) has a slightly different view . It’s behind a paywall but someone might be able to archive it .
In the meantime here are a couple of screenshots

Duke of Sussex security to be reviewed
Duke of Sussex security to be reviewed
MrsFinkelstein · 04/01/2026 10:35

elessar · 04/01/2026 10:14

I said at the time, but how convenient for Harry that this stalker - a Sussex squad member - managed to get close to him just in time for him to demonstrate that he was in danger.

In all honesty, I’m still unsure how an unarmed superfan that was managed perfectly well by his private security demonstrates that he needs armed guards in the UK but there we go.

It sounds like he has been granted what he wants, although I suspect there will still be conditions that he doesn’t like, such as having to give notice of arrival. It also doesn’t mean that the security will automatically extend to his wife and children if they’re not with him.

Really I wish he would just bugger off and stay away from the U.K. so the taxpayer isn’t burdened by the expense of protecting the entitled oaf.

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Yes, it's odd how apparently that known superfan (who had been pictured with them both several times), carried more weight than the 2 times Harry was in London knocking on random doors and ordering Deliveroo's.

There will still be conditions - there has to be as he doesn't live in the UK - and his protection would always increase in the face of increasing risks. It will also downgrade again in the future. Is he going to fight that every single time?

IcedPurple · 04/01/2026 10:37

elessar · 04/01/2026 10:14

I said at the time, but how convenient for Harry that this stalker - a Sussex squad member - managed to get close to him just in time for him to demonstrate that he was in danger.

In all honesty, I’m still unsure how an unarmed superfan that was managed perfectly well by his private security demonstrates that he needs armed guards in the UK but there we go.

It sounds like he has been granted what he wants, although I suspect there will still be conditions that he doesn’t like, such as having to give notice of arrival. It also doesn’t mean that the security will automatically extend to his wife and children if they’re not with him.

Really I wish he would just bugger off and stay away from the U.K. so the taxpayer isn’t burdened by the expense of protecting the entitled oaf.

Edited

It sounds like he has been granted what he wants, although I suspect there will still be conditions that he doesn’t like, such as having to give notice of arrival.

So basically the same as he currently gets?

As I said above, I'm highly sceptical firstly that the 'review' would have been concluded in a few weeks over the Christmas holidays, and secondly that a RAVEC source would be blabbing about sensitive security arrangements. Thirdly, how can high level protection officers be permanently assigned to someone who lives 8 time zones away and performs no offical duties?

Rhaidimiddim · 04/01/2026 10:52

Thedom · 04/01/2026 06:02

So the review has already happened ?

What does this mean ? a source said ‘The only thing that could scupper his approval now would be an intervention from the Palace.'

He really believes his father would scupper a security assessment made by experts ? Or he is setting it up to lay the blame on his father if the assessment hasn’t gone the way he wants and expects. He is one nasty vengefull fucker.

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Just Liam doing his job.

Mylovelygreendress · 04/01/2026 11:05

One thing for sure - 2026 is going to give us lots to talk about 😂

bluegreygreen · 04/01/2026 11:07

Rhaidimiddim · 04/01/2026 10:52

Just Liam doing his job.

Unpleasant - and also clumsy, given the contradictions between 'sources' and 'spokesman'

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lickingfingertastingfood · 04/01/2026 11:14

This stalker?

Duke of Sussex security to be reviewed
Duke of Sussex security to be reviewed
bluegreygreen · 04/01/2026 11:24

Archive link for Rebecca English article https://archive.is/6cVLW

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elessar · 04/01/2026 11:25

IcedPurple · 04/01/2026 10:37

It sounds like he has been granted what he wants, although I suspect there will still be conditions that he doesn’t like, such as having to give notice of arrival.

So basically the same as he currently gets?

As I said above, I'm highly sceptical firstly that the 'review' would have been concluded in a few weeks over the Christmas holidays, and secondly that a RAVEC source would be blabbing about sensitive security arrangements. Thirdly, how can high level protection officers be permanently assigned to someone who lives 8 time zones away and performs no offical duties?

Moreorless as he has now except that it sounds like the new risk assessment has increased the risk level to one which would grant him police protection on each visit as opposed to currently where he sometimes hasn’t received any close protection on visit (as not warranted)

I think this is all leaking from Harry’s camp, not RAVEC. I think it’s described as “sources close to the Sussexes”? As much as I’d like to believe that this is just wishful thinking from Harry, unfortunately I think it may be largely true. The news came out in November I think about the new risk assessment and I’m sure it was said to happen “next month” which would be consistent with a December outcome. I have no idea how long these things normally take but if they’re continuously gathering intelligence it doesn’t necessarily need to be a long drawn out process to review that evidence and make a recommendation.

From the sounds of the article though it’s only part decided though - it sounds like the risk assessment has been done and come back to recommend Harry does have a level of threat against him, but that RAVEC have not yet met to agree the new protocols (hence the inference that the King could “interfere” with the process.) My bet is that the article has been put out there to try and apply emotional pressure on the outcome of the RAVEC meeting - to suggest that if they come back and say “ok well you still need to give 28 days notice” or apply some other restrictions around it, that Harry will claim (again) that the palace are wishing him dead and going against the outcomes of the risk assessment.

it’s nonsense of course but par for the course with him.

jeffgoldblum · 04/01/2026 11:33

Rhaidimiddim · 04/01/2026 10:52

Just Liam doing his job.

Agreed ! As I said on the other thread , I believe we are seeing Liam earning his wages.

IcedPurple · 04/01/2026 11:41

elessar · 04/01/2026 11:25

Moreorless as he has now except that it sounds like the new risk assessment has increased the risk level to one which would grant him police protection on each visit as opposed to currently where he sometimes hasn’t received any close protection on visit (as not warranted)

I think this is all leaking from Harry’s camp, not RAVEC. I think it’s described as “sources close to the Sussexes”? As much as I’d like to believe that this is just wishful thinking from Harry, unfortunately I think it may be largely true. The news came out in November I think about the new risk assessment and I’m sure it was said to happen “next month” which would be consistent with a December outcome. I have no idea how long these things normally take but if they’re continuously gathering intelligence it doesn’t necessarily need to be a long drawn out process to review that evidence and make a recommendation.

From the sounds of the article though it’s only part decided though - it sounds like the risk assessment has been done and come back to recommend Harry does have a level of threat against him, but that RAVEC have not yet met to agree the new protocols (hence the inference that the King could “interfere” with the process.) My bet is that the article has been put out there to try and apply emotional pressure on the outcome of the RAVEC meeting - to suggest that if they come back and say “ok well you still need to give 28 days notice” or apply some other restrictions around it, that Harry will claim (again) that the palace are wishing him dead and going against the outcomes of the risk assessment.

it’s nonsense of course but par for the course with him.

Moreorless as he has now except that it sounds like the new risk assessment has increased the risk level to one which would grant him police protection on each visit as opposed to currently where he sometimes hasn’t received any close protection on visit (as not warranted)

He'll still have to give some sort of notice though, won't he?

He's living 8 time zones away from Britain, so he surely can't just rock up and expect expensive, in demand protection officers to be hanging around waiting for him?

I have no idea how long these things normally take but if they’re continuously gathering intelligence it doesn’t necessarily need to be a long drawn out process to review that evidence and make a recommendation.

But hasn't his situation always been kept under review? And just as a threat assessment can indicate an increased risk, the opposite is true too.

Again I wonder what exactly is it that Harry wants from all this? He lives in California, not London. Why isn't he putting pressure on the California authorities for increased protection there?

jeffgoldblum · 04/01/2026 11:47

IcedPurple · 04/01/2026 11:41

Moreorless as he has now except that it sounds like the new risk assessment has increased the risk level to one which would grant him police protection on each visit as opposed to currently where he sometimes hasn’t received any close protection on visit (as not warranted)

He'll still have to give some sort of notice though, won't he?

He's living 8 time zones away from Britain, so he surely can't just rock up and expect expensive, in demand protection officers to be hanging around waiting for him?

I have no idea how long these things normally take but if they’re continuously gathering intelligence it doesn’t necessarily need to be a long drawn out process to review that evidence and make a recommendation.

But hasn't his situation always been kept under review? And just as a threat assessment can indicate an increased risk, the opposite is true too.

Again I wonder what exactly is it that Harry wants from all this? He lives in California, not London. Why isn't he putting pressure on the California authorities for increased protection there?

He wants his security to be armed in the U.K. , he wants his security paid for in any country he fancies visiting.
this is and has always been what he wanted.

IcedPurple · 04/01/2026 11:50

jeffgoldblum · 04/01/2026 11:47

He wants his security to be armed in the U.K. , he wants his security paid for in any country he fancies visiting.
this is and has always been what he wanted.

He will get armed security in Britain if the circumstances warrent it.

Random countries aren't going to lay on full security for the layabout 5th in line to the British throne however.

jeffgoldblum · 04/01/2026 11:52

IcedPurple · 04/01/2026 11:50

He will get armed security in Britain if the circumstances warrent it.

Random countries aren't going to lay on full security for the layabout 5th in line to the British throne however.

We know that but unfortunately it doesn’t appear that Harry’s inflated sense of importance does!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/01/2026 12:53

My bet is that the article has been put out there to try and apply emotional pressure on the outcome of the RAVEC meeting - to suggest that if they come back and say “ok well you still need to give 28 days notice” or apply some other restrictions around it, that Harry will claim (again) that the palace are wishing him dead and going against the outcomes of the risk assessment

Very likely yes, @elessar

TBH it's hard to see what's changed beyond more PR stupidity; as others have said if he needs security in the UK then he rightly gets it, but as ever with Harry there'll be something he doesn't like and everyone will be out to get him