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Duke of Sussex security to be reviewed

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bluegreygreen · 08/12/2025 00:54

The Duke of Sussex lost his argument in the Court of Appeal in May for automatic taxpayer security: the current arrangement is that his security needs are assessed on a case-by-case basis provided he gives notice.

He has recently been in touch with the new Home Secretary, and the latest update is that RAVEC has asked its Risk Management Board (RMB) to reassess his threat level.

Telegraph archive link

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lickingfingertastingfood · 19/12/2025 20:13

And yet they post more and more pics of their children. What a hypocrite!

IdaGlossop · 20/12/2025 16:14

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/12/2025 16:48

H&M and their super supporters present narratives that are often divorced from fact. By contrast, RAVEC and the security apparatus gather intelligence and allocate resources based on fact and not H's feelings

That just about sums the whole thing up, @My2cents1975, but unfortunately for him it doesn't result in what Harry wants - and when, having been raised with everything paid for but without the intelligence to understand it doesn't work like that in the real world, this is what we get

As for "whether he's paid the court costs", I'd like to know too, but I very much doubt this would be forthcoming with a FoI request. More likely some excuse would be found to keep it "private", as so many other things are with the RF

Shockingly, the RF is exempt from responding to FOI requests.

BasiliskStare · 26/12/2025 21:54

So DS has some legal training - he thinks anyone - not just H - it is not necessarily a matter of public record whether someone has paid the costs awarded against them. But not sure. So this may not be an RF thing but just anyone . But he doesn't want to be held to that. Just a thought.

Kitterkitkat · 26/12/2025 22:27

I don't really get why they need additional security in the UK? They have enough if they'd adhere to family residences.

They have had nasty threats but staying in luxury hotels doesn't really work if there is a better alternative.

Ohpleeeease · 27/12/2025 07:00

BasiliskStare · 26/12/2025 21:54

So DS has some legal training - he thinks anyone - not just H - it is not necessarily a matter of public record whether someone has paid the costs awarded against them. But not sure. So this may not be an RF thing but just anyone . But he doesn't want to be held to that. Just a thought.

I’m not sure what your DS means, is he saying that there might be instances of state security being paid for that have done under the radar?

bluegreygreen · 27/12/2025 09:45

I think what @BasiliskStare's DS is saying (happy to be corrected) is that it's not always made public when costs awarded have been paid, so if we are unable to find out if Harry has paid the costs due from his case it may not be that things are being kept quiet deliberately because he is royal.

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BasiliskStare · 27/12/2025 10:10

@Ohpleeeease , @bluegreygreen is exactly right as to what DS was saying ( but but but he doesn't want to be held to it ) is that civil court costs may be a matter of public record but whether they have been paid may not be & that holds whether you a member of the RF or A.N.Other private citizen .

Rhaidimiddim · 27/12/2025 11:14

NewAgeNewMe · 19/12/2025 15:25

Yes I know that. I did try to say that but some were not to be moved.. they were certain Harry didn’t get security 🤷🏻‍♀️

Did you get into specifics, like who should pay for it?

NewAgeNewMe · 27/12/2025 11:21

The king apparently 🤷🏻‍♀️ and it was up to him for security 🙈🤷🏻‍♀️

lickingfingertastingfood · 27/12/2025 11:39

As an aside there's an interesting article in the DM today by Diana's previous protection officer talking about her erratic behaviour after the divorce was announced. He resigned because of this. She flung herself off a first floor balcony while on a skiing break.

Ohpleeeease · 27/12/2025 17:07

bluegreygreen · 27/12/2025 09:45

I think what @BasiliskStare's DS is saying (happy to be corrected) is that it's not always made public when costs awarded have been paid, so if we are unable to find out if Harry has paid the costs due from his case it may not be that things are being kept quiet deliberately because he is royal.

Thank you @bluegreygreen I was having an exceptionally dim moment. That makes sense!

BasiliskStare · 28/12/2025 03:26

@bluegreygreen and @Ohpleeeease DS came round this evening and further said after his DM asked again 😂 if someone settles their costs in a suit ( ie those awarded against them ) you probably wouldn't hear of it because the matter is done and dusted. He did say the Govt will pursue costs because it is taxpayers' money & there may be a way of looking this up on a Govt Courts and Tribunals website. But essentially , if the losing party pays their bill , it may well not appear because no need. ( but again he said he thinks so. Not in charge of Treasury funds he )

I have to say this was a tiny fraction of our conversation between Yes Minister , John le Carre , Christmas events , and the difficult turkey cracker jigsaw inter alia 😊

Serenster · 28/12/2025 09:26

The DM has gone through what happened next to some of Meghan and Harry’s past PR/Communications appointments (meaning, they have looked at their Linked In profiles!).It makes for interesting reading.

Two - Ashley Hansen and Kyle Boulia - are now working for the same business consulting firn, Forward Gobal, Interesting, because when Ashley left, a big thing was made about how she was setting up her own PR company, to be called Three Gate Strategies. It was specifically announced that “Hansen will continue oversight of the international team advising the Duke and Duchess’ philanthropic work and creative projects through their banner Archewell. She’ll also work closely with the Duchess on new business ventures”. That clearly didn’t work out though, as her profile on Forward Gobal’s website says: “Ashley Momtaheni Hansen is the Managing Partner of Forward Global’s Los Angeles Office. Before joining Forward Global, she was the Founder and Principal of Three Gate Strategies, a boutique strategic communications firm”.

Two - Josh Kettler and Emily Robinson - don’t mention their time working for Sussexes at all on their Linked In profiles. Given their appointments were very public, that’s a…choice.

IAmATorturedPoet · 04/01/2026 05:08

Seems there may be a bit of a development (if ‘sources close to the Sussexes’ are to be believed):

https://archive.ph/II7F3

Thedom · 04/01/2026 06:02

So the review has already happened ?

What does this mean ? a source said ‘The only thing that could scupper his approval now would be an intervention from the Palace.'

He really believes his father would scupper a security assessment made by experts ? Or he is setting it up to lay the blame on his father if the assessment hasn’t gone the way he wants and expects. He is one nasty vengefull fucker.

hepsitemiz · 04/01/2026 06:05

The Dom, you’ve pretty much said word for word what I said on another thread. Harry has surpassed himself there, hasn’t he?

Thedom · 04/01/2026 06:09

A spokesman for the Sussexes said: 'We can't comment on security matters‘

Well based on this laughable comment, I think Harry still doesn’t know if he has been approved or not, because he hasn’t shut up about commenting on security matters for the past 4 years, so I think this is Harry trying to manipulate things from his side.

IAmATorturedPoet · 04/01/2026 06:27

You have to be pretty dim to put this to print.

Sources close to the Sussexes told The Mail on Sunday that the reinstatement of armed security has been assured after a fresh risk assessment was carried out for the royal and VIP executive committee (Ravec). They said: 'It's now a formality. Sources at the Home Office indicated that security is now nailed on for Harry.'

@Thedom - I think you may be right, he is laying the groundwork for blaming his father if it doesn’t happen.

He is one nasty vengefull fucker.
Yup

Thedom · 04/01/2026 06:38

Wait for the reunion photo with the kids backsides, being leaked, Archie hanging out of one of Charles legs and Charles stroking Lili’s face smiling beatifically at his long lost grandchildren.

Theunamedcat · 04/01/2026 07:35

So essentially he is getting more security that everyone else?

Lifestooshort71 · 04/01/2026 07:48

Reading the DM article (if any of it is true), it doesn't say 'armed protection at the drop of a hat' so he would still have to give notice? I don't see this as being any different from his present arrangement as I presumed royal protection officers have always got a little something tucked in their waistbands! Perhaps I've misread it so willing to be corrected....

IcedPurple · 04/01/2026 08:10

Thedom · 04/01/2026 06:02

So the review has already happened ?

What does this mean ? a source said ‘The only thing that could scupper his approval now would be an intervention from the Palace.'

He really believes his father would scupper a security assessment made by experts ? Or he is setting it up to lay the blame on his father if the assessment hasn’t gone the way he wants and expects. He is one nasty vengefull fucker.

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I'm sceptical.

This review was only 'announced' a few weeks ago, so I'd say it's highly unlikely it could have already been completed, especially given the Christmas holidays. It's not as if the petty complaints of the 5th in line are a high priority. Even if it had been completed, I don't think RAVEC 'sources' would be blabbing about it.

This looks like more of the usual nonsense from the Office of the Dook and Dookess.

TawnyVowel · 04/01/2026 08:12

Vengeful fucker is absolutely right.

Reduced to having to fight court cases to prove he’s as important as he thinks he is. And in this case strong arming his dad to make it happen. I don’t believe the stalker story, and what makes him more important than anyone else (who pays tax!) who has a much more dangerous stalker yet is at the mercy of fewer and fewer police resources to help them. He has no role in the UK anymore, he should get the same as anyone else unless he pays for it.

I hope when they come over that they are royally met with the public disdain that they deserve. The kind of disdain that can’t be turned off on Instagram. I also hope they don’t bring the kids because they don’t deserve to be caught up in it.

He seems to be making it his life mission to score points over the RF, it’s all he exists for.

MrsLeonFarrell · 04/01/2026 08:14

He had a bespoke arrangement. He still has that. If the threat increases his security here will increase. Nothing has changed except Harry is still tilting at windmills convinced he is the victim of a conspiracy that only he can see.

Thedom · 04/01/2026 08:37

Harry should have kept quiet, it all looks like smoke and mirrors now, he again is being ridiculed.

It is amusing to see so many predictions come true, people said he would be returning with his tail between his legs and here he is !!!

It looks like H&M are desperate for one thing to go their way at this point, 2025 was a disaster for them from start to finish.

I doubt he is getting full time security based on one lone female Sussex squad superfan, so possibly other stuff going on? Maybe things that are nothing to do with his UK threat level.