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Duke of Sussex security to be reviewed

554 replies

bluegreygreen · 08/12/2025 00:54

The Duke of Sussex lost his argument in the Court of Appeal in May for automatic taxpayer security: the current arrangement is that his security needs are assessed on a case-by-case basis provided he gives notice.

He has recently been in touch with the new Home Secretary, and the latest update is that RAVEC has asked its Risk Management Board (RMB) to reassess his threat level.

Telegraph archive link

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TheAutumnCrow · 16/12/2025 20:38

IcedPurple · 16/12/2025 20:34

Actually, Sherborne is not a KC, as might be expected for someone with his experience.

Apparantly, his reputation as a 'showman' has made him rather unpopular with his peers.

He strikes me as more of a Bobby Crush than a Liberace

BasiliskStare · 16/12/2025 20:52

IcedPurple · 16/12/2025 20:34

Actually, Sherborne is not a KC, as might be expected for someone with his experience.

Apparantly, his reputation as a 'showman' has made him rather unpopular with his peers.

Actually - I think I know he wasn't a KC , but forgot. so mea culpa . I think there are various reasons people apply for KC later rather than sooner but he does appear to have something of the showman about him.

That said Thank you for keeping me on the straight and narrow 😊👏💐

Mylovelygreendress · 16/12/2025 21:09

My2cents1975 · 16/12/2025 20:25

IMHO, H is restrained from suing US press because broad first amendment protections around free speech make suing media in the US far harder than in the UK.

Moreover, potential US defendants would not treat H with any deference. After the New York car "chase" fiasco, when H&M's lawyers sent a threatening letter to Backgrid paps, Backgrid's lawyers fired back with a letter including the memorable line "We stand by our founding fathers." And H&M immediately backed down.

Photo agency rejects Prince Harry and Meghan’s ‘royal prerogative’ demand for photos

Having a senior moment here …
Why did H and M send a threatening letter to Backgrid ? ( thought M had them on speed dial?)

Mylovelygreendress · 16/12/2025 21:10

Sorry just read link .

My2cents1975 · 16/12/2025 21:42

Mylovelygreendress · 16/12/2025 21:10

Sorry just read link .

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No problem. H&M have sent so many threatening letters it is hard to keep track of their unnecessary drama!

BillyBites · 16/12/2025 22:46

IdaGlossop · 16/12/2025 16:49

I bet Meghan was putting emotional pressure on him to leave and he was too weak to resist and to stupid to think things through.

I’m not sure it was that exactly - more likely that she was leaving, regardless (with Archie), and he could go with her or stay behind.

IdaGlossop · 16/12/2025 23:26

BasiliskStare · 16/12/2025 20:22

@IdaGlossop I'm showing my age but I do remember Liberace saying he laughed all the way to the bank. - So just for you Ida - not his most flamboyant but perhaps the nearest he has for courtroom dress ,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberace#/media/File:Liberace_8_Allan_Warren.jpg 😂💐

@BasiliskStare you have made my evening 😊 As an added bonus, there's a photo of young Elvis. Please, please 'reach out' 🤮 to dear David. I'm sure he would find it easy to see himself in ermine. He might love it so much that he would wear it on Zoom calls to H.

BecauseWhy · 17/12/2025 07:36

Ohpleeeease · 16/12/2025 07:37

“With her full chest”? What does that even mean - Is this a bot post?

No and please stop with the ‘bot’ stuff.

‘with her full chest’ meant she said it confidently and didn’t hesitate. Why she’d insist something she had read on social media to be true is the question? And how many of these tv announcers, broadcasters , & journalists (as she is) are doing this?

BecauseWhy · 17/12/2025 07:39

myrtleWilson · 16/12/2025 14:44

@IcedPurple whether they were IPP or not, they thought they were as their initial “see ya” statement made reference to being IPPs

re “her full chest” am sure there was a previous poster who used this phrase - it stood out at the time, perhaps they’ve returned under a NC

It’s a fairly common phrase on the internet. I’ve heard it many times now - on Mumsnet but mostly on other social media sites. I think it’s very descriptive and I like it.

NewAgeNewMe · 17/12/2025 07:56

BecauseWhy · 17/12/2025 07:36

No and please stop with the ‘bot’ stuff.

‘with her full chest’ meant she said it confidently and didn’t hesitate. Why she’d insist something she had read on social media to be true is the question? And how many of these tv announcers, broadcasters , & journalists (as she is) are doing this?

Never heard it before or if have not noticed or thought it odd! But then I’m in my 60’s and the sayings of today do that to me often I’m sad to say.

Mylovelygreendress · 17/12/2025 09:02

I am a bit lost with Harry’s court cases. How many are still ongoing and when can we next expect him to be in the U.K. ?
Has he paid his legal bill yet ?
As if I don’t have enough to think about but the H and M shenanigans are an entertaining distraction!

Justdancevance · 17/12/2025 10:14

Some posters seem to think that Harry’s feelings should trump reality.

Even if had remained a working royal, he would stop commanding the same security as William and his family.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 17/12/2025 10:32

NewAgeNewMe · 17/12/2025 07:56

Never heard it before or if have not noticed or thought it odd! But then I’m in my 60’s and the sayings of today do that to me often I’m sad to say.

I've never heard it or seen it before before - google AI tells me it African American Vernacular English phrase - so maybe it's not crossed over into British English widely yet.

Lifestooshort71 · 17/12/2025 10:41

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 17/12/2025 10:32

I've never heard it or seen it before before - google AI tells me it African American Vernacular English phrase - so maybe it's not crossed over into British English widely yet.

I've heard of a chest full of medals though....

Mylovelygreendress · 17/12/2025 10:49

Justdancevance · 17/12/2025 10:14

Some posters seem to think that Harry’s feelings should trump reality.

Even if had remained a working royal, he would stop commanding the same security as William and his family.

And imagine the tantrum when he was told that..

bluegreygreen · 17/12/2025 11:19

BecauseWhy · 17/12/2025 07:36

No and please stop with the ‘bot’ stuff.

‘with her full chest’ meant she said it confidently and didn’t hesitate. Why she’d insist something she had read on social media to be true is the question? And how many of these tv announcers, broadcasters , & journalists (as she is) are doing this?

Have never heard the expression before - thanks to @CatHairEveryWhereNow for the explanation.

I don't think journalists should be making untrue statements anywhere. Neither do I think his mother-in-law's disappearance for years before he knew her is remotely relevant to Harry's current demands for security. Perhaps a separate thread?

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CatHairEveryWhereNow · 17/12/2025 11:20

Lifestooshort71 · 17/12/2025 10:41

I've heard of a chest full of medals though....

Only heard that to reference to someone with miltray background currently wearing a full chest of medals on a parade or somewhere offical and can't say it's a commonly used term cropping up all over the internet.

Never heard that imply it somone is speaking from the heart or full of conviction or confidently as it apperently means in african american english.

Birtish English her full chest - google AI thinks that refers to a well endowed womens breasts. Chest in British English when talking about women is a common euphemism for breasts so can see that.

It may be a phrase crossing over to mean that in wider English I just haven't see it yet anywhere else and given British English connetions with women breasts think her full chest may not cross over easily.

lickingfingertastingfood · 17/12/2025 11:21

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 17/12/2025 10:32

I've never heard it or seen it before before - google AI tells me it African American Vernacular English phrase - so maybe it's not crossed over into British English widely yet.

Ah yes of course.

Lifestooshort71 · 17/12/2025 11:46

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 17/12/2025 11:20

Only heard that to reference to someone with miltray background currently wearing a full chest of medals on a parade or somewhere offical and can't say it's a commonly used term cropping up all over the internet.

Never heard that imply it somone is speaking from the heart or full of conviction or confidently as it apperently means in african american english.

Birtish English her full chest - google AI thinks that refers to a well endowed womens breasts. Chest in British English when talking about women is a common euphemism for breasts so can see that.

It may be a phrase crossing over to mean that in wider English I just haven't see it yet anywhere else and given British English connetions with women breasts think her full chest may not cross over easily.

Only heard that to reference to someone with miltray background currently wearing a full chest of medals on a parade or somewhere offical and can't say it's a commonly used term cropping up all over the internet.
Did I say it was? 🤔

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 17/12/2025 11:56

Lifestooshort71 · 17/12/2025 11:46

Only heard that to reference to someone with miltray background currently wearing a full chest of medals on a parade or somewhere offical and can't say it's a commonly used term cropping up all over the internet.
Did I say it was? 🤔

I assume that was why you mentioned it at all TBH.

It's phrase with some similar words to phrase under discussion with completely different meaning - so was confused you'd mention it at all.

I assume the non sequitur was implying it was a common British phrase hence worth mentioning rather than nonsense comment - my apologises.

NewAgeNewMe · 17/12/2025 12:37

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 17/12/2025 10:32

I've never heard it or seen it before before - google AI tells me it African American Vernacular English phrase - so maybe it's not crossed over into British English widely yet.

Thanks that explains why I haven’t heard it.

lickingfingertastingfood · 17/12/2025 12:45

BecauseWhy · 17/12/2025 07:39

It’s a fairly common phrase on the internet. I’ve heard it many times now - on Mumsnet but mostly on other social media sites. I think it’s very descriptive and I like it.

I've never heard of it before this.

IcedPurple · 17/12/2025 12:45

Justdancevance · 17/12/2025 10:14

Some posters seem to think that Harry’s feelings should trump reality.

Even if had remained a working royal, he would stop commanding the same security as William and his family.

Some posters seem to think that Harry’s feelings should trump reality.

Yep.

Every time I've asked these posters about exactly what is wrong with Harry's current arrangements and they always become very evasive, with talk of how 'he feels unsafe'. how 'it's not his fault he was born royal', and references to interviews about 'threat assessments' which were already out of date 3 years ago.

Nobody has even tried to explain how armed security can be provided at a moment's notice for a private citizen who lives on another continent. Apparently poor Harry shouldn't be asked to give 28 days notice, despite the fact that he does very little, but specialist protection officers have nothing to do with their time other than attending to the whims of an exiled princeling.

Justdancevance · 17/12/2025 12:59

By this rationale Harry’s feelings should trump evidence in his court cases, ditto Meghan’s tall tales, and outright lies should just be accepted.

Justdancevance · 17/12/2025 13:01

As avowed Republicans, these posters must feel then every citizen is entitled to equal police protection based on their feelings as Harry is

The cost of that won’t be covered by the savings on removing the RF