As ever, WLM, PR disasters continued

[AtIusvue]

Online, people are pointing out that a very expensive cashmere jumper that Meg wore on suits, also made its way to her wardrobe

It’s been nothing but PR disasters of late.

What I have noticed which is curious - is that the UK tabloids are not running with P6 story about the dress. Just like they avoided talking about the NY car chase. They only reported on the media frenzy. But, we know Harry sent out some sort of memo not to publish photos etc. None of the UK press did. Now Meg has acknowledged the stolen dress story and released an official refute ….and none of the UK press are even reporting on that?

That’s weird. They will literally print any old Meg story to get clicks…..but not this one???

The articles on this issue are mainly American.

He's a willing fool. He thinks he's being trendy and "right on" but doesn't understand that he's slagging off the elected president of a nation he chooses to live in.

And we know that Trump is quite thin skinned . Wonder if Pa will have a word ?

I doubt he listens to Pa, unless it's about the next tranche of money/property.

I can only assume Harry's fee was low enough it was worth getting him for 20 mins or so as it was British/American. If I were on that committee and British I wouldn't be asking him to save the date for next year.

It reminds me of this joke

“There's a joke about the balloon boy who has a balloon mum and a balloon dad and he goes to a balloon school with balloon friends ad a balloon principal. And one day, the balloon boy decides to take a pin to his balloon school, which is, of course, a disaster. And he's called into the balloon principal's office, and the balloon principal tells him, 'You've let me down, you've let your school down, you've let your parents down, you've let your friends down. But most importantly you've let yourself down'.”

Wait till his trendy and right-on mates cop on to the Harry/Invictus connection with the Israeli IDF. That’ll be fun.

Maybe Harry will find himself boycotted, divested and sanctioned by the cool Californian and East Coast dudes.

He’s playing an unwinnable game, by trying to become politically popular while keeping his privileges.

BABC can't be that happy with a speech like that, can they? Surely their speakers are supposed to be building bridges, not burning them. He's alienating half of the US electorate and the elected government, and painting Brits as backwards arseholes. How is that good for business relationships?

Yep. He thinks he's untouchable.

A neighbour of mine had Catherine for several sleepovers during her time at |Marlborough. She knew her well and said that she was always called Catherine by friends and family.

He’s been protected. At all levels. Sickening.

And yes, I do blame Charles. When will he realise that it is unacceptable that the son of the monarch has been/is causing damage to the UK’s reputation, with impunity? Does he care? Does the Government?

Who’s actually in charge of this shitshow?

I agree. KC has been far too soft. Guilt? Misplaced ideas of making up for Diana? Who knows. It needs to stop though.

Every time Harry’s allowed to be an utter nobhead with impunity, faking being a senior working royal on government-approved diplomatic business, I’m looking at Charles thinking, ‘you’re not indispensable either, mate’.

No nation deserves a weak Head of State.

Although KC3 is an enabler, H is a grown man with agency of his own.

H's salvation is that he is so insignificant in the US news landscape that he really is not on Trump's radar. H is the child of the sovereign and most UK newspapers have dedicated reporting on the sovereign and his family. Because drama drives clicks UK news are highly incentivised to report everything H&M.

In the US H&M are completely absent from the mainstream news cycle. H&M send paid media to tabloids and may make it to entertainment news (TMZ) less than once a month. Since Trump only pays attention to Fox which caters to his base, well H may as well not exist.

But if H persists and Fox starts aggressively covering H as more than a late-night (Gutfeld!) punchline, King Pa won't be able to save H and no one else would even care enough to try.

I'm wondering if the PM will have a word, being advised by the Foreign Office?

Harry's not that important.

Yes, his behaviour is inappropriate and potentially mildly embarrassing but I don't think anyone takes Harry seriously enough for this to be on the PM's radar.

A few months ago we were told Harry would be starting his own commercial venture before the end of this year. I guess Keynote Speaker is his new ‘job’ based upon his appearances this week.
I think that was his original plan when he first left the UK only now his speaking fee will be a fraction of what he would have hoped and his reputation is in tatters so the gigs he’s able to get are regional real estate conventions and business Christmas lunches.

I usually agree with you but IMHO, I think the PM would need to be informed.

Putin is at war with Europe. It is kinetic in Ukraine but all over Europe there are cyberattacks, drones over airports disrupting travel and transportation of high value / perishable goods, undersea cables are being cut, etc.

The UK's nuclear deterrent Trident needs US involvement to fire. Given Trump's capricious and transactional approach to national security, does anyone want to predict his reaction to H's thoughtless words?

What happens to UK national security if H's antics make it to Fox news and thus onto a very thin-skinned Trump's radar?

I agree that H is not important enough to be on the PM's radar. But if I were KC or W I would be looking at what he says in his quasi royal status . & to be honest whilst Trump is the butt of many jokes he has been elected. & KC has to entertain him (Trump) on behalf of our govt ( elected ) . So , I suppose I'm thinking , how far can H push his royal connections before someone tells him to shut TF up - or is he just a joke & give him enough rope to hang himself. @My2cents1975 - you posted some time ago about how little press H gets - which I had not realised , being in the UK. and @BemusedAmerican - I also didn't realise the extent to which NY gives him VIP security and treatment.

Now - easy to say and I have a good relationship with my DS - at some point I would be telling DS to pipe down. But clearly the KC / W / H relationship isn't so good.

I just wish he would stop trying to speak by virtue of being a Prince , because as far as I can tell , he is not liked or admired by a vast majority of people in the UK . I suspect having read posts he is ignored by the vast majority of people in the US.

I do wonder how far H&M are breaching the Sandringham summit agreement ( which won't have been a contract - I'd bet the farm I do not have on that ) but they assume KC won't stop them - given he (KC) has much else to think about.
"But will no-one rid us of this turbulent Prince * (sic)

*For the avoidance of doubt I am not advocating violence in any way 😂

Although KC3 is an enabler, H is a grown man with agency of his own

Charles has enabled a LOT worse than Harry, @My2cents1975, but short of some sort of statement I'm not sure what he's supposed to do when any firm action results in a tantrum, snowballing the whole thing again?

There can't be many left who haven't already realised Harry's an utterly useless fool, so why not let him go right on with his pointless yammerings?
I doubt even Trump would care, if the "i'm not going to act (over his visa) - he's got enough problems with his wife" are anything to go by

So he claims all of the UK are racist and all UK football fans are drunken yobs.

He really loves his home country, doesn't he.

Idiot.

KCIII didn’t deal with Andrew firmly enough or early enough. He then had to take unprecedented steps to appease public anger. However by removing titles given at birth and taking away properties paid for with legally binding contracts, he has created a precedent and led to questions being asked about other royals eg Prince Edward. He needs to act on the matter of Harry as he is clearly a loose cannon before it affects other RF members who have served the crown and not embarrassed anyone eg Princess Alexandra.

If H makes it to the Fox news cycle and the Trump base perceives that a foreign Prince of no account has disrespected Trump, Trump will react to maintain his tough-guy image for his base. Whether that reaction harms only H or spills over to harm the UK (tariff increase?) will be up in the air...but it is certainly another potential headache for Keir Starmer.

IMHO, Trump has shown that he really cares what his base thinks. For example, Trump was absolutely not going to release the Epstein files but when Fox instigated a revolt of the base Trump changed course.

Fox News shapes the Trump base viewpoint. It is the cornerstone of the right-wing news eco-system. Once Fox activates the right-wing rage machine, it makes the worst of the UK press seem like a gentle spring shower compared to the category five hurricane that Fox can unleash. Just ask Hillary about her emails. As I said, H's media insignificance in the US is his only protection from the right-wing rage machine and thus Trump's wrath.

ref Meghan and her dad, I read this article earlier - says according to the Markles, and separately verified by the DM/hospital - Meghan has not reached out to her father.

https://archive.ph/n479Q

Its incredibly callous but par for the course with her.

Her PR on record said she had reached out. All that means in reality, is someone sent an email to a (known?) old address, so she has plausible deniability.

There will be no further attempts.

I have said this before, but this PR team have to be the worst she has ever had !

Her father has predictably gone to the media with his sob story. If the Royal family can avoid Harry because he keeps putting private conversations into the press, I think it is fair to not criticise Meghan for avoiding a father who is unable to communicate with her without a newspaper.

It is sad that her family is so dysfunctional but I'm not going to blame Meghan for that. In an ideal world she would reconcile with him and Harry would reconcile with his family, but we don't live in an ideal world. People are messy and chaotic and sometimes relationships break down.