"He loves me so boldly...." - Haarpers Interview with Meghan

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https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/film-tv/a69289143/meghan-markle-cover-story-interview-2025/

She's a beautiful woman but i can't understand why she just doesn't drop the titles and be herself. And it's odd how she talks about how much 'H' loves her but not how much she loves him.

To be honest, i feel that H and M are becoming more irrelevent as time goes on. William will slim down the RF, theres no doubt about that. People in the UK, as time goes on, will become less interested in H and M as they become less relevent to the UK. They dont carry out Royal duties and dont represent the UK - they are in a tricky place of having no official role, no particular achievements and are obviously struggling to maintain Harry's previous status in the RF. I wouldn't be surprised if William does nothing when he becomes King (as regards their titles). I'm thinking what will the future bring for for Archie and Lilibet? I doubt M would want A in the military and there's no family 'firm' to join. In truth, as times goes on, I wonder if H will look back with regret.

William and Catherine met age 19/20 as students . It would have been ridiculous for them to marry within months . After the debacle of his parents ‘ marriage , William had to be sure that his future wife was “ up to the job”and that it was true love.
They were still in their 20s when they married . As with Diana , Harry is proving the saying marry in haste …….

I think this is a reasonable point of view. Even if they had stayed in the RF, they would have become less important and relevant. Not being in the RF has accelerated that process. I agree that W may not have to bother removing their titles. M has made herself look very silly with this revelation that she was announced before she entered a room. She needs to do these things to give her validation.

I agree, @Mylovelygreendress . Kate was marrying into a role; she and William understood that. Better to take their time in the relationship, make sure that Kate was fully aware and knew what she was getting into. It sounds very wise to me. A mature and intelligent approach. Rather that than be absolutely clueless, jump in, and make a hideous mistake.
However, some people will still use that loaded slur because they can't conceive of a couple taking time to make sure it would work, learning, being reflective and building a future together with a solid base.

Yes I'm sure she was pictured at the pumpkin thing. I doubt she will have a speaking part again though as she was clearly not impressed when she tried one of Meghan's "throw every product on the list at a random foodstuff" desserts. Can't imagine what her face would be like presented with dried flower turkey.

Mind you i never got the impression Doris wanted to be on camera she has always been a quiet dignified presence.

I haven't read it because I'm not particularly interested but I have noticed that her mother is never seen with them now whereas she used to be often photographed alongside them .

Right so two teens meet at university then take time to decide to get married, must tell mine and dhs friends, we all did it wrong and should have been married within a couple of years of finishing university. And that was 40 odd years ago when the trend was to marry younger.

Exactly, even though you weren't marrying someone who was one day going to be Head of State. You weren't marrying into the Royal Family with all the attendant pressures. You weren't marrying a man whose parents rushed into an ill considered marriage with all the fallout that ensued.
In short: William and Kate were wise to wait, yet it's used as a slur against her, even on this thread.
Most sensible people wait and reflect, even more so in their position.

I remember reading that she was ready to be wed much sooner, but like most things, that may have been speculation. I'm glad she proved up to the job and truly in love with him. It was a beautiful wedding. And I really hope they last the distance too, and those pesky rumours about him are untrue.

Is Harry unhappy? I haven't seen or heard anything that suggests this, other than the claims Meghan is controlling him. On the occasions I see him, he looks happy enough to me. For their sakes and that of those beautiful children, I hope they go the distance too.

I'm sure everyone, you and your husband included, did just what was right for you. As have Kate and William / Meghan and Harry.
Yet we're still here having pages of discussion.
Such is MN.

Absolutely, I think they're actually quite well suited and I don't think anyone would like to see a marriage end, particularly one with young children. They're just going to have to navigate their roles going forward.

Actually dh and I were an arranged marriage (whole other can of worms) but I was referring to our friends specifically x

Why are you on MN if you don't approve of pages of discussion? What did you hope to find on this site?

Ok.

Anybody else get the feeling Meg has shifted gear?

It’s clear she’s ingratiated herself with the Hollywood elite- schmoozing at the BH hotel, being there to be seen etc. Harry, seems to be a tag along while she has completely given up the facade of any sort of dignity and is now on full on celeb mode. The fashion branding is straight from the Kardashian playbook.

They were ridiculed and Kim stated designers wouldn’t loan anything to her. Kanye and his fashion connections got her into the fashion world/MET gala etc. Kim was now a part of that world and now collabs with many designers. She’s now a billionaire. It’s no surprise Meg has sidled up to them.

Theres no pretence her work is about producing programmes with Archewell for her first look deal, or charity work with the foundation. She dropped her business podcast because she’s too busy. She’s phoning in for As ever.

The magazine article was all about brand Meg- not actually what she’s doing. It was how fab she is in all her designer gear and how amazing she is at everything. Just pointless celeb hot air.

She’s always been about self promotion but this is a different level. It’s clear how much of a social climber she is and how she is willing to befriend anyone to get where she wants.

So where does that leave Harry? She’s checked out of their joint ventures. It’s just about her now. When those titles go….so will Harry…..with the ring in the post.

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I can't imagine why you think I disapprove. I'm very active here.

Oooohhhhhh I have just read the article, and perhaps I'm being dumb or am just wired up wrong. But I didn't see it as particularly snide? Maybe I just don't know enough about Meghan and/or don't particularly care about etiquette gaffes?

I also thought the photos are nice, and make a refreshing change from the usual dolled-up pictures we see of famous women.

I wasn't at University, but met my DH age 18, we broke up, got back together and married at age 27. So I deserve a nickname??

I can't find the article now, but will keep searching, that described how it was Catherine who wanted to wait for an engagement, to be sure she could handle it, William had decided to marry her and wanted to announce, she was more cautious. But that doesn't fit the press narrative, or that of Upper Class who looked down on Catherine and didn't think she was suitable.

As to a previous comment about Harry being thrown under the bus to protect William. It doesn't quite work that way, and that part of Tom Bowers book is one of the weakest - he has very few sources to back up those particular claims.
I'm sure William also drank and partied, drugs may have been involved. He was pictured falling out of clubs and drunk in taxis. Unlike Harry - he wasn't pictured punching journalists or his Security, wearing a swaztika or partying with hookers in Vegas.

Royal Press doesn't quite work the way Hollywood press does. If they have a juicy story on the Heir and are offered another story on a lower Royal to print instead - they now have 3 stories. The one about the Heir, the one about the other Royal and also the one about the attempted cover up. The RF aren't Hollywood - they can't really limit Press access - they need it to publicise their jobs. If the Press had proof William had been behaving in the way Harry was with drink and drugs - they wouldn't have held back. It would have fed into the Bad Charles/Bad Father compared to Saint Diana narrative they were caught up with.

I agree that the tone of the article was different / indifferent / subdued - there didn’t seem to be a push or a promotion at any current initiative even though the timing was surely to coincide with upcoming last episode of WLM. Balenciaga was subtly featured in the video, the copy and was one of the outfits. WLM is over - can As Ever stumble on alone? Unlikely. Maybe this is her shop window ‘open to new opportunities’ pitch.

Thank you, @MrsFinkelstein . Spot on 👌

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I remember reading that she was ready to be wed much sooner, but like most things, that may have been speculation.

Very likely indeed. "ready to be wed much sooner" is a really odd phrase, imo. But, if you're talking being in a rush to get married, Meghan seemed extremely ready to be wed, according to pieces I've read. She certainly made sure she was acknowledged as Harry's girlfriend pretty promptly.
Catherine had the luxury of time since her relationship with William started when they were quite young. Meghan's age must have been on her mind if she wanted children and, as it turns out, she did.

And I really hope they last the distance too, and those pesky rumours about him are untrue.

Sure.
In exactly the same way as Meghan must have felt sorry for someone being called "Waity Katie".

You are 100 per cent right there. No mention of her mental health work, the charities, her care for others etc - even the rest of the family are a sideshow. It's all about her. Harry is a prop as are the children although of course the favoured Lili gets a special mention. She comes across as shallow and vain yet the pics show her in her worst light as regards her usual posed style. The clothes are high end but her look is just weird.

How do you know they’re beautiful? No one has seen them . The last photo of either of them full face was years ago.

It’s the same old stuff - I’m learning French on Duolingo, I was always a leader as a child, I’m a modern business woman with a kid on my hip whilst I build my brand. Is this the stuff she was so desperate to share and that she was being “silenced” about?

Agree.

I think As ever will be quietly dropped. No ‘new season’ of products, Meg not updating insta . Another year max.

Eventually she will pass it off as a great adventure, with lots of ‘learns’. That shes passionate about business and that she wants to be playful/not limit herself … blah blah. That fashion and beauty is more of a natural fit for her and she had people desperate to collab with her…blah blah.