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"He loves me so boldly...." - Haarpers Interview with Meghan

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Phase42 · 20/11/2025 09:53

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/film-tv/a69289143/meghan-markle-cover-story-interview-2025/

She's a beautiful woman but i can't understand why she just doesn't drop the titles and be herself. And it's odd how she talks about how much 'H' loves her but not how much she loves him.

Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, Meets Her Moment

After years of being subsumed by other people’s narratives, she's ready to author her own next chapter

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/film-tv/a69289143/meghan-markle-cover-story-interview-2025/

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/11/2025 19:35

In that case I'm very happy to be corrected, @jeffgoldblum, but of course it still leaves the question of when Harry receives any inheritances, what mechanisms are used in "delivering" them to him and what he does with them

Because if it came to it I doubt he'd have the sense to protect himself, so we can only hope someone else will do it for him

jeffgoldblum · 20/11/2025 19:48

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/11/2025 19:35

In that case I'm very happy to be corrected, @jeffgoldblum, but of course it still leaves the question of when Harry receives any inheritances, what mechanisms are used in "delivering" them to him and what he does with them

Because if it came to it I doubt he'd have the sense to protect himself, so we can only hope someone else will do it for him

Yes that is the thorn in the side isn’t it! , Harry would probably hand it over, and American rumour has it that Harry’s money ( possibly his inheritance from Diana) paid for the house but it was put in Meghans name! 😱
im hoping this is not true .

FenellaFeldman · 20/11/2025 19:48

This is why they were foolish to give up the Frogmore property and decline the apartment in KP. They also were in the position of having a house on the Balmoral estate.
With all these properties came security and other benefits. Their choice.
They could also have taken on Highgrove, which was apparently KC's wish.

Gowlett · 20/11/2025 19:58

jeffgoldblum · 20/11/2025 19:48

Yes that is the thorn in the side isn’t it! , Harry would probably hand it over, and American rumour has it that Harry’s money ( possibly his inheritance from Diana) paid for the house but it was put in Meghans name! 😱
im hoping this is not true .

Edited

The Montecito mansion is interesting because Meghan has said that when it initially came onto their radar, she dared not view it as it was out of their league price-wise. Next thing, they own it…

She’s not exactly shy about making friends with wealthy elites. There’s definitely some Fergie-style financial associations going on. Is she still pals with Tyler Perry, I wonder?

sickofsixseven · 20/11/2025 19:59

FenellaFeldman · 20/11/2025 19:48

This is why they were foolish to give up the Frogmore property and decline the apartment in KP. They also were in the position of having a house on the Balmoral estate.
With all these properties came security and other benefits. Their choice.
They could also have taken on Highgrove, which was apparently KC's wish.

I just cant understand how all of that wasn't good enough for them. On top of that, imagine complaining about Nottingham cottage, free lodging in the dead centre of London, on the secure grounds of KP, which also happens to be a historic building designed by Christopher Wren. The gall of it.

Traded all that for a money pit mansion and having to "borrow" upper east side brownstones, and staff to announce them, from acquaintances.

StartupRepair · 20/11/2025 20:05

Harry was notoriously mean with money with previous girlfriends. I imagine all his money is being solidly managed by financial advisors somewhere.

FenellaFeldman · 20/11/2025 20:11

sickofsixseven · 20/11/2025 19:59

I just cant understand how all of that wasn't good enough for them. On top of that, imagine complaining about Nottingham cottage, free lodging in the dead centre of London, on the secure grounds of KP, which also happens to be a historic building designed by Christopher Wren. The gall of it.

Traded all that for a money pit mansion and having to "borrow" upper east side brownstones, and staff to announce them, from acquaintances.

Edited

I know. They were going to get the Gloucesters' apartment in KP because they were downsizing. Part of a palace - a very large apartment - with protection, housekeeping, cars available, insured, furnished and ready to go - as you say, in an historic building in the heart of London! Who turns that down!

PinkPanther57 · 20/11/2025 20:13

FenellaFeldman · 20/11/2025 20:11

I know. They were going to get the Gloucesters' apartment in KP because they were downsizing. Part of a palace - a very large apartment - with protection, housekeeping, cars available, insured, furnished and ready to go - as you say, in an historic building in the heart of London! Who turns that down!

Someone who wants the Californian sunshine & easy living & a mansion there.

Carla786 · 20/11/2025 20:14

Mylovelygreendress · 20/11/2025 17:18

In what way was Harry thrown under a bus ?
Remember, he didn’t want to leave so it couldn’t have been that bad!

That's a bit much. I wouldn't want to leave my family either, and he may have tried to not to mull over it initially(this had obviously changed & is unfortunate- Spare & the podcasts were a big mistake).

I do think there are credible clues that Harry was used as tabloid bait rather than Andrew. I agree some criticism was justified but otoh Andrew's much worse deeds were mainly covered up until recently. Whereas we know via Tom Bower in Revenge (no fan of Harry)that Charles acquiesced with his PR adviser's strategy to use Harry as bait to distract from any negative stuff on William- eg. The drug story in the Sun blamed Harry whereas Bower says Harry was less responsible than William. I suspect this continued, only to protect Andrew not William. I'm sure some tabloids must have known a lot more Andrew stuff that Lownie exposed.

Carla786 · 20/11/2025 20:17

FenellaFeldman · 20/11/2025 17:03

There's absolutely no evidence to support that whatsoever.
What is clear is that the Palace protected Harry and promoted him as a somewhat more reliable and pleasant person than he actually was.
The whole Andrew issue is completely separate and has nothing to do with the management of Harry.
Conspiracy nonsense.

Tom Bower is no conspiracy theorist nor Harry fan, and he says that Harry was deliberately exposed to press criticism while William was protected as part of Charles' PR adviser Bolland's strategy. Why is it so hard to believe that this could have also applied to Andrew (far more of a potential embarassmsnt)?

Rhaidimiddim · 20/11/2025 20:20

MrsLizzieDarcy · 20/11/2025 17:11

I'd be interested to know if she was paid for this article, when she's not supposed to be using her title for financial gain.

It is an art issue of the magazine, apparently; and apparently you can pay to play for inclusion in the art editions, as other brands and advertisers. So she may have paid for the whole thing.

Edited to clarify that art editions are brand promotion issues.

FenellaFeldman · 20/11/2025 20:20

No, Harry was never used as "tabloid bait" and was certainly never used to protect Andrew. That's nonsense.
I think conflating the whole Andrew thing is a red herring.
The Palace did their utmost to promote and protect Harry. They could have shared a lot of crap about that bloke.
Can you imagine those drink and drug stories alone?
Turns out he's prepared to lie about the men in grey suits and his own father about this, which is shameful.

Carla786 · 20/11/2025 20:20

Wickedlittledancer · 20/11/2025 17:14

harry has never been thrown under the bus, if anything his family and the royal household worked over time to stop us knowing what a whinging druggie drunk twat he was. Harry is nothing like the palace had us believe. The man wasn’t thrown under the bus. He was given a golden carriage to avoid the bus, and hugely protected.

no one, seeing the real Harry now, out of the protection of the royal family can possibly think that man was ever thrown under the bus. It’s as obvious as the nose on my face the opposite is true.

I agree he was protected to some extent (I still wonder if the 'he beat up sex workers in Afghanistan' rumour could have been true- perhaps one day we will know)

Otoh as I've said to pps, Bower, Harry's strong critic, says explicitly in Revenge that Harry was chosen by Charles' PR man Mark Bolland to be the fall guy, and take away any flack from William. I believe this credibly could have extended to Andrew.

wordler · 20/11/2025 20:20

BasiliskStare · 20/11/2025 18:54

I am sure KC will leave H something which by my standards would be enormous. But yes most personal wealth goes down monarch to monarch without IHT ( egregiously in my view but can't see it changing in KC's lifetime ) . Or KC will leave money in trust for grandchildren.
Anyway the point remains they are rich as rich can be , but just not as rich as they want & their talents (thus far) cannot realise.

I’ve always assumed that while the bulk of the assets and estates go monarch to monarch to avoid needing to break up the estate for inheritance tax issues that there are still the usual bequests and money left in trust for children and grandchildren.

I’m sure the Queen left some money to her children and grandchildren / great grandchildren - although may have tied it up tightly in trusts with conditions for some family members. I’m sure Charles would do educational trusts for Archie and Lili for example.

Carla786 · 20/11/2025 20:22

FenellaFeldman · 20/11/2025 20:20

No, Harry was never used as "tabloid bait" and was certainly never used to protect Andrew. That's nonsense.
I think conflating the whole Andrew thing is a red herring.
The Palace did their utmost to promote and protect Harry. They could have shared a lot of crap about that bloke.
Can you imagine those drink and drug stories alone?
Turns out he's prepared to lie about the men in grey suits and his own father about this, which is shameful.

Edited

Do you think Tom Bower is lying? Or mistaken? He strikes me as a careful researcher. The book gives explicit examples. Eg. The Sun's 'Harry's Drugs Shame' was only about Harry even though William seems to have been more culpable.

FenellaFeldman · 20/11/2025 20:23

Carla786 · 20/11/2025 20:17

Tom Bower is no conspiracy theorist nor Harry fan, and he says that Harry was deliberately exposed to press criticism while William was protected as part of Charles' PR adviser Bolland's strategy. Why is it so hard to believe that this could have also applied to Andrew (far more of a potential embarassmsnt)?

Because there is zero evidence.
Harry is completely paranoid and keeps repeating nonsense about the men in grey suits, who actually did a good job.
As if his own father would do that! Laughable.
It's like an episode of The Crown. Fiction.

HangingOver · 20/11/2025 20:23

We order a burger and fries for the table

This is the most shocking part of the interview for me.

FenellaFeldman · 20/11/2025 20:25

Carla786 · 20/11/2025 20:22

Do you think Tom Bower is lying? Or mistaken? He strikes me as a careful researcher. The book gives explicit examples. Eg. The Sun's 'Harry's Drugs Shame' was only about Harry even though William seems to have been more culpable.

Right. So how come Harry never mentioned this in Spare or any of the other interviews when he was monetising his family's privacy?
No word about William and drugs, but would otherwise slag him off about dog bowls and all sorts? Nope.

Indianrollerbird · 20/11/2025 20:34

BasiliskStare · 20/11/2025 18:15

I have to say , I do truly hope their's is a love story. After Trevor Engleson 's comment when he said something to the effect of "she'll close that deal " ( I am paraphrasing wildly there ) I do think that MM , who more than one person said she had come to look for a rich husband in the UK , thought , having met H , this is beyond pay dirt. I don't know and shame on me for thinking it but I thought she thought all her Christmases had come at once with Harry. Now , I am not saying she wasn't attracted to him , nor am I saying she does not love him - but I do think being a Prince of the Realm probably gave him a gloss which the man may not live up to. But I am not privy to their marriage. It's a personal opinion that H would not be as much of a catch if her weren't Prince Harry.

On another thread a poster said something along the lines of , Camilla puts up with the Royal flummery because of the man , Meghan puts up with the man because of all the Royal flummery.

But the truth is I do hope they are both in love , even if she doesn't express hers for him as much as she expresses his for hers. Not least because they have a young family - but going on the down low with the Duchess thing might be more indicative of loving the man not the title.

I'll take any criticism for this post because I can probably supply it myself. Just a thought.

Megyn Kelly has a mutual friend with Trevor Engleson. Friend told Kelly that Meghan had a “mood board” (during her first marriage), which I assume was some sort of manifestation board, which included a picture of Harry.

bluegreygreen · 20/11/2025 20:43

They could also have taken on Highgrove, which was apparently KC's wish.

I haven't seen that written anywhere, and I'm not sure how it would work, given that KC3 has Highgrove on a long lease from the Duchy of Cornwall.

FenellaFeldman · 20/11/2025 20:46

bluegreygreen · 20/11/2025 20:43

They could also have taken on Highgrove, which was apparently KC's wish.

I haven't seen that written anywhere, and I'm not sure how it would work, given that KC3 has Highgrove on a long lease from the Duchy of Cornwall.

The lease gets transferred.

Mylovelygreendress · 20/11/2025 20:47

FenellaFeldman · 20/11/2025 20:11

I know. They were going to get the Gloucesters' apartment in KP because they were downsizing. Part of a palace - a very large apartment - with protection, housekeeping, cars available, insured, furnished and ready to go - as you say, in an historic building in the heart of London! Who turns that down!

They wanted to live in Windsor Castle.

FenellaFeldman · 20/11/2025 20:47

Indianrollerbird · 20/11/2025 20:34

Megyn Kelly has a mutual friend with Trevor Engleson. Friend told Kelly that Meghan had a “mood board” (during her first marriage), which I assume was some sort of manifestation board, which included a picture of Harry.

So, even during her first marriage, she'd set her sights on Harry, is that the implication?

Carla786 · 20/11/2025 20:54

FenellaFeldman · 20/11/2025 20:25

Right. So how come Harry never mentioned this in Spare or any of the other interviews when he was monetising his family's privacy?
No word about William and drugs, but would otherwise slag him off about dog bowls and all sorts? Nope.

Harry has talked in interviews about feeling he was not as protected compared to other family members.

I suspect there was pressure from Moehringer to take some stuff out. He did say that he toned it down somewhat. OK, the dog bowl stuff made William look bad but otoh it also was so ridiculous that it backfired on Harry.

Anyone got a copy of Revenge? I've mislaid mine, but according to Google Books Bolland's strategy is mentioned on page 113.

Carla786 · 20/11/2025 20:56

Indianrollerbird · 20/11/2025 20:34

Megyn Kelly has a mutual friend with Trevor Engleson. Friend told Kelly that Meghan had a “mood board” (during her first marriage), which I assume was some sort of manifestation board, which included a picture of Harry.

I thought mood boards were things filmmakers used to plan. But yes, it sounds possible...

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