Andrew Lownie's "Entitled" talk at AlumniFestival, University of Cambridge

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Here's a link to the talk on YouTube: Andrew Lownie describes "Entitled" as a book about financial corruption by a senior royal.

I've just remembered another shocking detail. He said that Andrew would have picked VG from a book of photos and that such books were handed round on the island

I wonder how many girls and young women were involved. ☹️

I imagine Andrew really doesn't have any idea who Virginia Giuffre is, he seems to have had sex with thousands over forty odd years of activity.

There must be so much regret about that photo. Without it, we'd have none of this.

The whole thing is covered up, if it wasn't for guiffre speaking put, Lownie researching over FIFTEEN years,

Honestly we know nothing about the Monarchy
Absolutely NOTHING

Why have no other women come forward I wonder?

@QuenchedSquirrel Apparently one of his many girlfriends, Denise Martell, lived at Royal Lodge for five years, and he's her son's godfather.
Lownie says that her son looks remarkably like Andrew! (About 31 minutes in.)

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...Another snippet is that on a visit to Thailand Andrew went through 40 prostitutes in 4 days!

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...Christ, Andrew had "masseuses" brought to him at Royal Lodge every Sunday. His driver would pick them up from Heathrow airport.

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@TheGander I saw him interviewed in a program on channel 5 and he mentioned that Andrew demanded a brace of prostitutes

Weird maniacal laughter😅😩 'brace' like he's ordering game for his dinner!!! Dear god in heaven he was representing us!!!

I am deeply shocked.

If true, this reflects terribly on the Royal Family and the late Queen. They seemed to somehow miss their sense of responsibility when it came to Andrew.

Thinking about it Prince Charles had to endure crap at school, forced to stay despite being next in line to the throne, Margaret couldn't marry the man she wanted, but Andrew seems to have got away with felony murder!!

Appalling.

Why do you say this?

Very very many women have come forward

Annie Farmer
Maria Farmer
Jennifer Araoz
Johanna Sjoberg
Teresa Helm
Liz Stein
Lisa Phillips
And more... Why do you say this? They have all gone public

Thanks so much for posting this. Having read the book I did wonder what more the talk had to offer- but it’s quite devastating to hear this web of corruption laid out so clearly & calmly.

It seems fairly obvious to me that Andrew has been deliberately sacrificed to divert public attention from the much more significant figures involved with Epstein - ‘Everyone look at Andrew! No talking about Ehud Barak or Mossad or the violent former Prime Minister who raped VG and left her bleeding!’. But the fact remains that what this sordid story reveals about the ‘Royal Family’ and the network of deference & corruption & media concealment sustaining them is truly shocking.

The Windsors are not just incidentally involved with some of the worst, most depraved people in the world. This is their milieu. Their natural environment. The oligarchs, the brutal authoritarians, the thieves, the rapists, the paedophiles, the abusers.

Anything for a free horse.

The obscene, mindless deference paid to this uncouth, ugly family by ordinary British citizens - worth so much more!- should not survive this book. I fear it will.

Ugggh that was uncomfortable reading.

I wonder how Lownie feels now Lodge eviction has happened?

Surprised perhaps since he didn't think it would happen!

I guess the King realised if he didn't take the most drastic action we'd still be nosying into places the RF don't want any real scrutiny.

I agree @JeminaTheGiantBear Andrew wasn’t the only one partaking of the orgies so why aren’t more names popping up? Because they are better protected? If there really is an Israeli angle on this I can imagine that Trump will do everything to stop that from emerging.

Agree with every word of this eloquent post.

Very well said.

Thanks for sharing OP, this is incredible. I remember when the interview came out how it cast him in a whole new terrible light but it was clearly the tip of the iceberg! How crazy that Andrew apparently had a long-term mistress who lived at Royal Lodge for 5 years and even had a son with him(?!) and we never knew? And that’s actually a pretty tame revelation compared to the rest of it… !

I do feel sorry for Beatrice and Euginie. Obviously accepting £12,000 as a ‘wedding present’ from this dodgy Turkish guy was wrong but it’s clearly the way she was raised, with these two as role models I’m surprised they seem as normal as they do tbh. What a childhood!

I don't feel sorry for Beatrice and Eugenie.
They are adult women who have made choices. It's their responsibility if they have done anything like this.
Eugenie set up a charity to support victims of slavery, I don't see how you could do that and not reflect on what Dad was up to.
I suspect they'll always get a free pass, though.

I wonder how much money has changed hands for her to keep quiet and bring up her son in quiet obscurity?

We know that what happens to us as children affects us as adults, and Beatrice and Eugenie are no different.

If they had absent parents who turned up for photoshoots, it wouldn't be difficult to imagine that they'd do what they could as adults to gain attention from their parents.

I know three siblings all in their early sixties now whose father deserted them as young children, reappeared when they were late teens, and they've all ended up trying to get his attention ever since. And in this particular family he plays them like a fiddle, and they've never been able to break free of the cycle.

I've no doubt that Beatrice and Eugenie have been damaged by their parents, but they are still responsible for their own actions as adults. My sympathy for them is limited relative to that for those women who were trafficked and abused by Epstein and Andrew over the years.

Lownie has said that there is much more to come about their business dealings. I agree with PP who said so brilliantly that this is the world that the Royals swim in. The shot in his talk about the Queen receiving a horse from some appalling regime really does say it all. They squeeze the taxpayer for all they can get and then top it up with gifts from corrupt governments. It's pretty disgusting. And I say that as someone who is in general in favour of a constitutional monarchy

Good points, @DeborahVance .
Also, Beatrice and Eugenie were raised by Norland nannies, went to boarding school and stayed with their grandparents when their parents were absent. They weren't therefore fully immersed in the horrors of Andy and Fergie.
As you say, though , adults make choices.

I used to think how proud Catherine's parents must feel, their daughter marrying into the RF. Now I wonder if they are horrified and wishing she had fell in love with someone else. The whole RF seem toxic to me now. We are still expected to curtsey to Charles. Who was very friendly with Jimmy Saville and is on camera taking a bag of cash from someone dodgy. And William, who wants all this kept quiet so we don't look into his alleged affairs and ways to keep the money from the tax payer pouring in.
The only decent one seems to be Sophie.

If Andrew has a son by another woman, I think that would be hard to come to terms with too especially if the mistress lived at Royal Lodge. What a bizarre set up, was she known as one of the servants or what?

Although in times past the boy would be called Fitzsomethingorother and be given a dukedom. Wonder if he feels hard done by!

I'm amazed with all his exploits that there's only one child out there tbh.

This should be the death knell of the RF. All the info over the years, Mountbatten, pics of Saville, pics with Epstein, Wienstein, Maxwell.
All the gifts from psychopaths (Idi Amin et al)
All the suitcases of cash (Charles) All the unedifying affairs (Charles, the tampax King)
QEII may have believed (or not, we will never know) that she had a God given duty to 'rule over us'. We no longer do. Pethaps its 'the Firm' rather than individual members that is so corrupt (although AMW is clearly a loathsome creature). Time for it to end, before little George gets sucked in & corrupted at our expense.

But he didn't have a son by another woman whilst still married to Sarah did he,.or did he?
Because Princess Anne's first husband Mark Phillips fathered another child whilst still married to Anne, and it barely gets a mention

I am not sticking up for Andrew here, just proving what a truly dysfunctional family they are

I guess Mark Philips wasn't one of "them".

I think if Andrew having a son became something the press decided to report (Andrew Lownie would not have mentioned this in his talk if there was any threat of libel), it would be part of his scandal.

Does Mark P's daughter have a relationship with her half siblings I wonder. Did B and E know about their half brother before now?

The daughter is only 4 years younger than Zara, and Mark Phillips had to be dragged kicking and screaming to acknowledge her, DNA tests etc

He only said the boy looked like Andrew, that’s all, & his mother lived at the Lodge. A hint but that’s all.