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Andrew Mountbatten Windsor

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StrongandNorthern · 30/10/2025 20:42

Finally.

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Zippedydodah · 01/11/2025 18:41

tinydynamine · 01/11/2025 16:51

"Fergie" will sell the secrets for big bucks, then the whole lot of them, including the late Queen, Saint William and his wife, are toast.

If she does she risks her daughters losing their ‘princess’ status and I doubt any uk publisher would touch her.

LamourdesTrois · 01/11/2025 18:55

mathanxiety · 01/11/2025 16:48

I was responding to the absurd claim that he is not a rapist.

Legally he is not a rapist - it was not illegal to have sex with a 17 year old trafficked woman in the UK at that time.

ShenandoahRiver · 01/11/2025 18:58

Morally he is a rapist.

LamourdesTrois · 01/11/2025 19:00

ShenandoahRiver · 01/11/2025 18:58

Morally he is a rapist.

Yes.

Imaginethatifyoucan · 01/11/2025 19:14

I think Andrew genuinely believed that these women were excited and pleased to be having sex with him. Such is his level of entitlement and grandiosity I really don’t think he has understanding of how ordinary people think and feel. I doubt he has a clue about what trafficking involves or anything about the home lives of girls who become sucked into that dark world. To him it’s all ‘play’ . Self indulgence, gratification of increasingly perverted tastes that were normalised in the circles he moved in. He has been surrounded by people telling him he’s wonderful or biting their lip if they think otherwise. It seems no one has ever said no to him, never pulled him up on anything, never disciplined him. He lives on an entirely different level to ordinary people. He thinks he’s very very special and can have whatever he wants. He doesn’t think of the feelings or needs of others.

Watching parts of that interview with EM again, I think he probably genuinely can’t remember VG. She was one of many many women he used for gratification, believing they were enjoying it because he’s a PRINCE. I don’t think he ever gave a thought to why those women were doing what they were doing, whether they were actually there by choice or enjoying it. I don’t believe the thought ever crossed his mind. So in his mind he’s innocent. I’m sure he explained it to the Queen as ‘I’ve been a bit silly mummy , but that woman was in it for herself and now she’s trying to smear my name’. Mummy then tried to hush it all up, because ‘boys will be boys’.

SF had a father who used prostitutes. Her moral compass was clearly wonky too.

QueenOfHertz · 01/11/2025 19:16

upinaballoon · 01/11/2025 09:53

Nip round with a cheese scone, please, when you've finished.

Do you know the book about HMTLQ solving a crime, based when she's at Sandringham, with help from her lovely secretary, who's having it off with one of the equerries?

Sorry, they’d run out of cheese scones but I did have a sausage roll which gave me an absolute nightmare 2 hours later but correlation is not causation so I’m sure Chazza did not give me food poisoning.

Anyway. There was a guy in a black coat doing a piece to camera but that was the only crew around. No branding on the camera or mic so I don’t know where they were from.

We walked around the woodland park and saw The Folly which is being mooted as a potential home. It is very close to the ER gate which was restored/put in in 2002 (please google it someone to help me out with the history here) so let’s hope Mr Andrew doesn’t smash into them as he did with the ones in Windsor when he’s too impatient to wait for them to be opened.

I’m going to discount this house as it is too close to the road and you can see in through the windows. Very easy to lob a brick through the window, or worse.

I reckon he is going to go into Park House.

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QueenOfHertz · 01/11/2025 19:17

Don’t know about the book @upinaballoon and it sounds hilarious.

Imaginethatifyoucan · 01/11/2025 19:17

What about Wood Farm?

QueenOfHertz · 01/11/2025 19:21

I think - was it on here? So it must be true - that Wood Farm was ruled out but it was secure enough for Philip wasn’t it?

Buxusmortus · 01/11/2025 19:31

Imaginethatifyoucan · 01/11/2025 19:14

I think Andrew genuinely believed that these women were excited and pleased to be having sex with him. Such is his level of entitlement and grandiosity I really don’t think he has understanding of how ordinary people think and feel. I doubt he has a clue about what trafficking involves or anything about the home lives of girls who become sucked into that dark world. To him it’s all ‘play’ . Self indulgence, gratification of increasingly perverted tastes that were normalised in the circles he moved in. He has been surrounded by people telling him he’s wonderful or biting their lip if they think otherwise. It seems no one has ever said no to him, never pulled him up on anything, never disciplined him. He lives on an entirely different level to ordinary people. He thinks he’s very very special and can have whatever he wants. He doesn’t think of the feelings or needs of others.

Watching parts of that interview with EM again, I think he probably genuinely can’t remember VG. She was one of many many women he used for gratification, believing they were enjoying it because he’s a PRINCE. I don’t think he ever gave a thought to why those women were doing what they were doing, whether they were actually there by choice or enjoying it. I don’t believe the thought ever crossed his mind. So in his mind he’s innocent. I’m sure he explained it to the Queen as ‘I’ve been a bit silly mummy , but that woman was in it for herself and now she’s trying to smear my name’. Mummy then tried to hush it all up, because ‘boys will be boys’.

SF had a father who used prostitutes. Her moral compass was clearly wonky too.

Well said.

It's probably hard for younger posters on here to realise, but as a young man Andrew was extremely popular with women. He was the best looking of the royal brothers, was a Falklands hero and wherever he went all sorts of women would throw themselves at him, he was always being photographed on the beach etc surrounded by women( as was Charles in his day!), that's how he earned the nickname Randy Andy.

Having experienced that type of adulation for many years I doubt it would have ever occurred to him that any woman could actually not want to have sex with him, given all his adult life so many women had wanted to do so. Irrespective of whether he knew VG was a prostitute or not I imagine he would have thought she was entirely willing to have sex with him.

QuenchedSquirrel · 01/11/2025 19:36

The BBC for one reported that it wasn't Wood Farm.

upinaballoon · 01/11/2025 19:47

I agree with the older people on here about the change in attitudes over the last 50 or so years.
I can't remember exactly when The Sun (was it) started having a page 3 girl, who was naked above the waist - 60s I guess.
'Groupies' followed their favourite pop stars or pop groups around and waited at the stage door, some no doubt just for autographs but others with offers that might not have been refused.
Sir Mick Jagger's like a staid old man at the cricket, now, but we haven't forgotten about the Mars Bars stories, Old Mick.

Abra1t · 01/11/2025 20:13

upinaballoon · 01/11/2025 19:47

I agree with the older people on here about the change in attitudes over the last 50 or so years.
I can't remember exactly when The Sun (was it) started having a page 3 girl, who was naked above the waist - 60s I guess.
'Groupies' followed their favourite pop stars or pop groups around and waited at the stage door, some no doubt just for autographs but others with offers that might not have been refused.
Sir Mick Jagger's like a staid old man at the cricket, now, but we haven't forgotten about the Mars Bars stories, Old Mick.

Bill Wyman and Mandy, aged 14.

ChimneyPot · 01/11/2025 20:36

LamourdesTrois · 01/11/2025 18:55

Legally he is not a rapist - it was not illegal to have sex with a 17 year old trafficked woman in the UK at that time.

Only one of the 3 alleged incidents took place in the U.K.

The others were in New York and US Virgin Islands.

The age of consent in USVI is 18

mathanxiety · 01/11/2025 20:52

upinaballoon · 01/11/2025 19:47

I agree with the older people on here about the change in attitudes over the last 50 or so years.
I can't remember exactly when The Sun (was it) started having a page 3 girl, who was naked above the waist - 60s I guess.
'Groupies' followed their favourite pop stars or pop groups around and waited at the stage door, some no doubt just for autographs but others with offers that might not have been refused.
Sir Mick Jagger's like a staid old man at the cricket, now, but we haven't forgotten about the Mars Bars stories, Old Mick.

I'm 'older' (61) and remember a very one sided class discussion on the massive ewwww factor at the engagement of Charles and Diana. It was a unanimous thumbs down, with nobody willing to predict a happy ever after for them.

This was a coed class in an Irish secondary school. Attitudes really weren't as unevolved as it is claimed they were, back in the Late Jurassic...

BeeWitchy · 01/11/2025 20:52

Abra1t · 01/11/2025 20:13

Bill Wyman and Mandy, aged 14.

I remember reading about Bill and Mandy, when I was young and feeling very uneasy. But also admiring the pictures of her dressed in the beautiful trendy clothes he bought her.

But it was so openly accepted - he was allowed to carry on, no one attempted to stop him - that I figured it must be okay. This was the social mores we lived within then.

Men admired for being predators. And girls and women blamed - as ‘sluts’ and all the other words. Some of that thinking is still accepted today.

They say they were different times. Some of it is different now, but too much is not different.

DickDewey · 01/11/2025 20:54

tinydynamine · 01/11/2025 16:51

"Fergie" will sell the secrets for big bucks, then the whole lot of them, including the late Queen, Saint William and his wife, are toast.

Much as I’d love this, I don’t believe she would. I think she liked the old Queen, and I doubt she’s got much dirt on William and Stepford Kate.

ShenandoahRiver · 01/11/2025 20:57

@BeeWitchy
Totally agree.
A poster this evening said that Virginia Guiffre’s moral compass was skewed - because her father used prostitutes.

mathanxiety · 01/11/2025 20:58

QueenOfHertz · 01/11/2025 19:16

Sorry, they’d run out of cheese scones but I did have a sausage roll which gave me an absolute nightmare 2 hours later but correlation is not causation so I’m sure Chazza did not give me food poisoning.

Anyway. There was a guy in a black coat doing a piece to camera but that was the only crew around. No branding on the camera or mic so I don’t know where they were from.

We walked around the woodland park and saw The Folly which is being mooted as a potential home. It is very close to the ER gate which was restored/put in in 2002 (please google it someone to help me out with the history here) so let’s hope Mr Andrew doesn’t smash into them as he did with the ones in Windsor when he’s too impatient to wait for them to be opened.

I’m going to discount this house as it is too close to the road and you can see in through the windows. Very easy to lob a brick through the window, or worse.

I reckon he is going to go into Park House.

Park House is the birthplace of Princess Diana as the Spencers rented it from the RF for many years, and she spent part of her early childhood there. I think it would be an appalling snub to William and to the memory of Diana to house Andrew there.

The Folly, otoh, would be poetically perfect.

Imaginethatifyoucan · 01/11/2025 20:59

The name is certainly appropriate!

BeeWitchy · 01/11/2025 21:03

ShenandoahRiver · 01/11/2025 20:57

@BeeWitchy
Totally agree.
A poster this evening said that Virginia Guiffre’s moral compass was skewed - because her father used prostitutes.

I know. I’ve seen multiple posts blaming Virginia's younger brother. Apparently for some people, anyone or everyone other than the perpetrator is to blame.

Abra1t · 01/11/2025 21:03

mathanxiety · 01/11/2025 20:52

I'm 'older' (61) and remember a very one sided class discussion on the massive ewwww factor at the engagement of Charles and Diana. It was a unanimous thumbs down, with nobody willing to predict a happy ever after for them.

This was a coed class in an Irish secondary school. Attitudes really weren't as unevolved as it is claimed they were, back in the Late Jurassic...

Yes, but you only were about 17 then. People actually in positions of authority often didn’t show such enlightened views about young (below the age of consent) girls with older men.

1993—A babysitter freed on probation by a judge who described his nine-year-old sex attack victim as 'no angel', was jailed for four months by the Court of Appeal yesterday.

Buxusmortus · 01/11/2025 21:07

DickDewey · 01/11/2025 20:54

Much as I’d love this, I don’t believe she would. I think she liked the old Queen, and I doubt she’s got much dirt on William and Stepford Kate.

I agree. She has also always known which side her bread is buttered. Despite all the talk of them going their separate ways, wouldn't surprise me a bit if, in time, she moves back in with him. I don't know how else she's going to afford to live, no one's going to want to buy her books and they wouldn't have made her a living. Will her children want to support her?

Imaginethatifyoucan · 01/11/2025 21:09

BeeWitchy · 01/11/2025 21:03

I know. I’ve seen multiple posts blaming Virginia's younger brother. Apparently for some people, anyone or everyone other than the perpetrator is to blame.

Edited

If you’re talking about me, I was talking about Sarah Ferguson.

ShenandoahRiver · 01/11/2025 21:09

@BeeWitchy
Those posters need to examine their own moral compass!