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The royal family

Andrew, Sarah & a Royal Lodge question

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MoondustandFairies · 20/10/2025 00:42

Following some of the news stories about Andrew relinquishing Titles & a more local news story saying that he & his ex wife will continue to live in the Royal Lodge makes me wonder how that can be funded. Can they be made to leave if they can't pay?

It has 7 - or 12? - bedrooms so I expect it requires a bit of mopping & dusting each week - so do A & S also employ staff to maintain the property.

Not sure how old they both are either, maybe close to retirement?? but how do they fund a lifestyle without being propped up by the RF. Which prob won't please William too.
Just my tuppence worth question wondering how non working ex Royals with no marketable skills will pay staff wages & buy groceries.

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Baital · 13/11/2025 16:18

None of you are Spartacus, because i am!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/11/2025 16:32

Baital · 13/11/2025 10:24

The monarch can remove HRH/Prince/ss by letters patent, which is what he has done for Andrew.

Nobility titles, once acquired, can only - I think - be removed by Parliament or rejected by the person concerned within a year of acquiring it (usually by inheritance). This was brought in with the 1963 Peerage Act, because Alec Douglas Home inherited an Earldom but wanted to remain in the House of Commons, and there was no mechanism to refuse a title.

From what I have read Andrew hasn't had the dukedom removed? But isn't using it? All the news sources say he has been 'stripped of his princely titles' but don't specifically say this includes the dukedom, which has different rules.

That all sounds broadly correct to me, Baital, but really the post I was responding to was one saying that it's up to parliament to decide on legislation rather than the RF - and while I agree with that it's not what the government spokesperson recently said

CathyorClaire · 13/11/2025 20:05

Baital · 13/11/2025 10:30

The Chancellor (administrator) of the Duchy is a government position.

I was thinking more along the claims of C3 (and W) apparently being obliged to charge market rent on their private estates with a commercial imperative while staying silent on handing back the very ample millions skimmed from public bodies and charities.

We can only assume their hands are inexplicably tied on that too.

MrsLeonFarrell · 13/11/2025 20:25

CathyorClaire · 13/11/2025 20:05

I was thinking more along the claims of C3 (and W) apparently being obliged to charge market rent on their private estates with a commercial imperative while staying silent on handing back the very ample millions skimmed from public bodies and charities.

We can only assume their hands are inexplicably tied on that too.

I think someone linked, on another thread about finances, to an article that said there are very strict rules about what they can and cannot do. Most of them iirc were about making sure profits went back into the Duchies. But i can't remember details. I'm betting they could be changed but that it would be a fairly long process and there doesn't seem to be political will.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/11/2025 09:33

I think someone linked, on another thread about finances, to an article that said there are very strict rules about what they can and cannot do

There are also strict rules about flogging honours and citizenship, @MrsLeonFarrell, but it didn't stop Fawcett doing exactly that

Of course we were told that was something else Charles knew nothing about, but to borrow an old quote "Well he would say that wouldn't he?" Hmm

MrsLeonFarrell · 14/11/2025 11:06

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/11/2025 09:33

I think someone linked, on another thread about finances, to an article that said there are very strict rules about what they can and cannot do

There are also strict rules about flogging honours and citizenship, @MrsLeonFarrell, but it didn't stop Fawcett doing exactly that

Of course we were told that was something else Charles knew nothing about, but to borrow an old quote "Well he would say that wouldn't he?" Hmm

I'm not prepared to call Charles a liar on that, although i do think he is overly loyal and needs to stop trusting people who are proven dodgy.

Having said that, one change Id like to see is politicians behaving as if we have a constitutional monarchy. At the moment they do tend to be a bit pathetic.

Baital · 14/11/2025 12:41

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/11/2025 09:33

I think someone linked, on another thread about finances, to an article that said there are very strict rules about what they can and cannot do

There are also strict rules about flogging honours and citizenship, @MrsLeonFarrell, but it didn't stop Fawcett doing exactly that

Of course we were told that was something else Charles knew nothing about, but to borrow an old quote "Well he would say that wouldn't he?" Hmm

It hasn't stopped elected politicians either, unfortunately.

Michelle Mone?
Charlotte Owen?

ShenandoahRiver · 14/11/2025 13:08

Anyone in a position of power can abuse that power. And nobody seems to be able to prevent it.

Lifestooshort71 · 15/11/2025 08:58

Baital · 14/11/2025 12:41

It hasn't stopped elected politicians either, unfortunately.

Michelle Mone?
Charlotte Owen?

I thought Michelle Mone was appointed to the House of Lords, what was she elected to?

Baital · 15/11/2025 14:36

Lifestooshort71 · 15/11/2025 08:58

I thought Michelle Mone was appointed to the House of Lords, what was she elected to?

Appointed and given contracts by elected politicians.

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