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What about Beatrice & Eugenie?

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olderandnonthewiser · 19/10/2025 23:26

I’m not sure what to think tbh. On one hand they must be so so mortified; on the other they enjoy all the perks of Royalty and their position in the RF despite their revolting father.

How do you see it?

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Thortour · 20/10/2025 04:07

They need to learn from their parents appalling mistakes. They should get jobs and disappear from public life.
We need a republic

TightlyLacedCorset · 20/10/2025 05:15

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 19/10/2025 23:38

On the council estates /areas of poor socio economic status where I work as a Social Worker they would probably have their houses spray painted or be vilified in the street due to their dads behaviour and be ostracised by the local community by association.
That won’t happen to them I imagine.
I expect they will be fairly well cushioned from that and I also suspect that in their circles the whole affair may be down played with the emphasis more on the consequences for father dear rather than his/ Epsteins victims as ‘par for the course - back in those days’

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Too true!

I know of someone who voluntarily confessed and went to prison - for his own safety - and upon release had to relocated far away, because people affiliated with his victims family (themselves hitherto well known long standing family friends) were vowing to enact revenge. Some in his own immediate family didn't want the police involved, they wanted to give him the beating of his life instead and it caused a massive fracture between family members who intervened to prevent physical retaliation being carried out and those who felt enacting punishment themselves without the police was a better solution. Some are not talking now and never will again. It has created a horrible scar that cannot be healed. The family members that protected him are now, several years later, of the opinion that dealing with him themselves would, with hindsight, have resulted in a more satisfactory conclusion for family relations and his own overall safety going forward from the other family wronged.

As it was, the sentence was appallingly light and he was perceived to have gotten away with it. His time in prison was brief and he reoffended and still has the daily risk of being accosted by someone, not least from those affiliated with his second victim. His family have had to cut him off completely to prevent retaliation to themselves and frankly because he is a danger to their own children.

That said, PA is not technically a paedophile and though he was involved in trafficking, has not formerly been charged with anything, but it is a massive reflection of how far, far, far removed from ordinary life and consequences he is, that he could voluntarily maintain ties with someone accused of such a grave crime. At the ordinary level, people strive to remove themselves from such people. No one wants to be seen as associated or find themselves caught in the middle of some retributive justice. Particularly when they are not forced to maintain contact due to family or emotional ties.

But Andrew does the opposite. He really doesn't seem to have cared about the grubbiness of association because he himself was cushioned with protection provided by the public purse. That might well be where his issue was. Feeling very protected from consequences.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 20/10/2025 05:46

OnlyOnAFriday · 19/10/2025 23:29

They will increasingly be non entities. They don’t do any official RF stuff I don’t think. Granny isn’t the Queen anymore, just their uncle as King, soon it’ll be their cousin. So getting naturally further removed.

I guess they’ll be there for the big stuff, weddings, funerals, etc which is right as it’s their family. But they’re not funded by the tax payer so I’m not fussed. I don’t know that they have many perks to be honest. Their vile father is not their fault.

Well some of the queens cousins did a lot and were working royals for years.

but I wouldn’t expect Beatrice or eugenie to be and they have good jobs. I listened to a podcast with eugenie on and she came across really well and is doing a lot for charity.

AnneButNotHathaway · 20/10/2025 06:18

It's terrible, but I don't think it'll affect their charity work or that part of their lives that we're knowing them from. They are doing pretty well in life, and I don't think this will change. They'll be at family functions of the Royal family and will probably continue with their charity work, I don't think this will change.

Pedallleur · 20/10/2025 06:31

They were born into the life and married well. Prob got trust funds. They aren't going to be working ever and in their circles any scandals won't get discussed. Don't worry about them. Charity work? As if their name brings in the money.

Beentheretoolong · 20/10/2025 06:55

Pedallleur · 20/10/2025 06:31

They were born into the life and married well. Prob got trust funds. They aren't going to be working ever and in their circles any scandals won't get discussed. Don't worry about them. Charity work? As if their name brings in the money.

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They both work in jobs they are paid to do alongside charity patronages.

Zonder · 20/10/2025 07:07

Interesting that Eugenie is involved with an anti slavery charity given all that's been said about Virgini Giuffre being a sex slave for Andrew. Eugenie must be mortified - I hope.

OnlyOnAFriday · 20/10/2025 07:13

HollyGolightly4 · 20/10/2025 03:55

No, Andrew is.

Yes, and he actually hasn't been found guilty of anything. I'm sure he denies it all to them and they probably believe it.

PhuckTrump · 20/10/2025 07:17

Same as for any children of any criminals…they unfairly carry the burden of their father’s actions.

He should have thought of his family when he forced himself on a child who was sex trafficked. He didn’t—he was raised to believe he was above the law.

AgathaMayhem · 20/10/2025 07:24

They won't be mortified or ashamed because they will have their father telling them the press are lying, it's a smear campaign, you know how the media lie about things, Giuffre was lying, I never even met her, she was mentally unstable and fabricated stories, none of it is true, I'm the victim here.
And they will believe him.
He isn't going to be admitting the truth to them. He will lie, lie, lie.
And they will believe his lies and stand by daddy.

ishimbob · 20/10/2025 07:29

They both have proper careers anyway and their charity work is on top, they live separately etc, they are fine.

I don't think we will ever know the full story from their perspectives - but I doubt their father associating with Epstein when they were young girls was a total delight.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 20/10/2025 07:30

Tubestrike · 19/10/2025 23:31

I'm torn too. Didn't one of them encourage Andrew to do the Maitlis interview and also accepted money for their mother's birthday , their judgement seems massively off .

This is why I'm not so sure it is clear cut. I thought it was Beatrice and she thought the interview would prove his innocence.

jumpingthehighjump · 20/10/2025 07:31

They are not squeaky clean by any stretch of the imagination. If they had any sense they will keep their heads down and not try and push themselves forward in the royal family like their parents do

EleanorReally · 20/10/2025 07:34

they will probably have to support their parents now!

Allisnotlost1 · 20/10/2025 07:46

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 20/10/2025 00:23

Of course women aren’t respond for sins of the father or any family member for that matter
BUT- they are, and have hither too, sticking by him - whereas most of us would distance ourselves from a filthy sex offender /paedophile family member, denounce go no contact etc

My point about the communities I work in was that that loyalty would bring consequences or stigma that they - wrongly or rightly - won’t have to suffer

Jesus you’re a social worker and you’re implicitly condoning the kind of dull witted bullying of innocent people for the actions of their family members?

Ot maybe you’re not intending to but you’ve communicated that poorly?

SatsumaDog · 20/10/2025 07:49

Thatstheheatingon · 20/10/2025 00:05

Women aren't to blame for what their fathers do

This. They aren’t responsible for their parent’s behaviour. I feel sorry for them.

PollyBell · 20/10/2025 07:50

I see it as two children who wont be able to go on the internet without experts who think they know what they are going through, they are people in their own right

NewAgeNewMe · 20/10/2025 07:52

AgathaMayhem · 20/10/2025 07:24

They won't be mortified or ashamed because they will have their father telling them the press are lying, it's a smear campaign, you know how the media lie about things, Giuffre was lying, I never even met her, she was mentally unstable and fabricated stories, none of it is true, I'm the victim here.
And they will believe him.
He isn't going to be admitting the truth to them. He will lie, lie, lie.
And they will believe his lies and stand by daddy.

A relative of mine when confronted with the white collar crime of their child, believed him when he says it was a stitch up. It clearly wasn’t, but nothing could persuade her that her beloved child was a criminal.

It caused immense falling out within the immediate family of people taking sides which is still felt decades later.

So yes I can well believe they’ll believe their dad. Who wants to believe that someone you love is capable of committing such disgusting acts?

ishimbob · 20/10/2025 07:53

SatsumaDog · 20/10/2025 07:49

This. They aren’t responsible for their parent’s behaviour. I feel sorry for them.

Also they had those two as parents. Can't have been easy.

I also think it's understandable that they wanted to believe him innocent. He is their dad after all, I think most people would struggle to believe this sort of thing of their parent.

fruitbrewhaha · 20/10/2025 07:55

Thatstheheatingon · 20/10/2025 00:05

Women aren't to blame for what their fathers do

This! Jesus how can you blame them for the father’s behaviour?

viques · 20/10/2025 07:56

ChilliMochaCoco · 19/10/2025 23:37

They do a lot of charity work and are very understated so it would be sad if they felt they had to give that up

No reason why they should give up charity work, though the charities themselves might not want them to be high profile, but they do need to be honest about any direct money or gifts they have been given by their parents dubious contacts, eg wedding present money was given apparently, I think jewellery was also given. Do they and their companies/ husbands also use “business contacts” that they were introduced to by their grifting parents. I am sure they are delightful , kind people but in their own interests they need to make it clear what advantages they have gained through the way the Yorks so boldly sold their names and contacts. Shit sticks and E and B are going to be around for a long time, as are their children so they need to get their clean up act together now before someone starts digging.

JillyJoy · 20/10/2025 07:57

ChilliMochaCoco · 19/10/2025 23:37

They do a lot of charity work and are very understated so it would be sad if they felt they had to give that up

I had not heard about this. Any more information available.
Are they not both married to very rich blokes from very wealthy families?

Greysowhat · 20/10/2025 07:58

olderandnonthewiser · 19/10/2025 23:26

I’m not sure what to think tbh. On one hand they must be so so mortified; on the other they enjoy all the perks of Royalty and their position in the RF despite their revolting father.

How do you see it?

They're royals, they don't give a shit what the proles think

Birlingsaresnobs · 20/10/2025 07:58

DrUptonsGardenGnome · 19/10/2025 23:29

Presumably they will never be working royals now. Even if they’ve not benefited from their parents’ immorality/amorality, the waft of scandal will always accompany them now.

"working royals" Hilarious.

Are they up at 7 am making the packed lunches, scraping the ice off the car, popping into Tesco for a meal deal?

gloriousrhino · 20/10/2025 07:58

Tubestrike · 19/10/2025 23:31

I'm torn too. Didn't one of them encourage Andrew to do the Maitlis interview and also accepted money for their mother's birthday , their judgement seems massively off .

I read that she was against it, but had a meeting with Maitlis and the producers who assured her he would get a fair hearing etc. Sadly he shot himself in the foot.

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