Why is Meghan hated?

[YourBrickTiger]

I have very strong views about the Royals especially Camilla, however I am genuinely interested and want to find out more as to why Meghan Markle seems to be so hated. I'm asking in case there is something I have missed. I do read up as much as I can and watch shows from 'both sides' of the argument, but there is nothing that I have seen so far that warrants the level of sheer hatred geared towards her - I don't mean on here necessarily, but on social media in general. She cannot do ANYTHING without a swarm of people descending on her like vampires to tear her apart.

She isn't an adulteress, she's not a paedophile or sex offender, she isn't lazy, she seems to genuinely care about people in need.....and from what has been shown, she genuinely loves Harry and is just trying to make a life with him. He left the UK to start a life away from a nest of some awful people, his mother died when he was 12, his uncle is a sex offender, there is racism and a rigid set of rules within that family where he won't be king anyway so what is wrong with him leaving?

I'm not starting this to start an argument I am genuninely interested in why she is so rabidly disliked and why? Maybe I will start to feel differently if there is more of a reason but at the moment I cannot see one?

I’m a mixed race woman I used to agree with you, and I removed commenting on a MN thread the same sentiment.

I liked Meghan initially. Didn’t pay much attention but as someone who fancied PH as a kid, I thought it was cool that married someone who looked like me lol. I saw the side-by-side headlines and thought it was unfair.

But after watching some of the drama videos, it’s obvious why people don’t like her. She comes across as vapid, boring, disrespectful, superficial, fake etc. She obviously will have good qualities too, but without knowing her personally, frankly, nobody cares.

the YouTube/journo grifters are making money off M and H stories. And because they get millions of views, more people want to know what the drama is about.

Some of the reporting is definitely unfair and nitpicking every single thing, but lots of it is valid, albeit purile.

Because she’s a home wrecker. She cut her husband off from his family and friends. Having a perpetually smug face doesn’t help, even if she can’t help it.

I used to be a big Meghan fan. But there were so many red flags. One family member at her wedding, I mean it’s not normal is it. Vaguely implying something racist was said by a member of the RF. (I always say if you’re going to make allegations, at least be specific.) Mock curtsying the Queen.

So many things she did seemed done with the sole purpose of winding British people up.

I am not defending her. I am pointing out that you are wrong that she has 'never done anything with her life.

The Osteoporosis Society work Camilla does is because her mother suffered terribly and died with the disease. It's something Camilla was doing for at least a decade before she married Charles so it is not 'off Charles' coattails'.

To say "Charity work is hardly working hard for a living" makes me think you've never done any charity work. Many people work harder for charities than they ever did for a job.

Go on, have a read about the work she has done for charity and see if you think it's just putting her name on the paper to make the charity look good. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Camilla

Racism and xenophobia. To be fair, more the latter than the former. The idea of a prince marrying an American divorcee doesn't go down well. I am not a fan of any of them (we need a Republic post haste) but I think some colour racism does come into it. People make endless excuses for William and Catherine being lazy, it is becoming rather blatant.

She’s fine. A bit California-y but fine.

I don’t hate her I just find her fascinating as she is so awful.

@Hoodlumboodlum I don't think 44 is particularly young.

But she isn't a homewrecker. Camilla IS a home wrecker, Prince Philip had an affair with Sarah Ferguson's mother, Prince Andrew had affairs and was friends with Jeffrey Epstein...but they still don't garnish the level of pure bile that Meghan does..???

A couple fell in love and surely it's a good thing that Harry is distanced from an institution where he saw his mum die when he was 12, his father marry his mistress, his uncle outed for sex offences...why isn't it good that he is away from that and it's Harry's choice surely? He has always been called the 'spare' so is he not just trying to make his own way in life?

Also, it makes me cross that there are so many people e.g. the YouTube commentators a PP has mentioned, making content to MAKE US CROSS, and I don’t want to get drawn into it.
Don’t take the rage bait people!
She’s probably fine. Human, flawed but fine.

Absolutely happy to read it but disagree from the get go that she works hard. I have 5 jobs - that is working hard. People who work 12 hour night shifts are working hard. Doctors and nurses work hard. I'm talking about when she was not queen (consort - she is certainly not a queen), she didn't work. She has never had a normal job. I just can't be on board with the defence of her, I think she's disgusting. She is in a position that was rightfully someone else's and caused so much pain to get to where she is. I can never ever respect her and even if she wasn't any of those things, she still kills innocent animals. I cannot wait to see the back of her.

So? Nobody “owns” a scent, unless they’ve had a bespoke scent created, with a secret formula. If it’s for sale, anyone can buy it. Why do you feel the need to police her scent choices?

I think, tho I’m not a royalist, the royal family have a different deal with the public from a USA celeb. She does t get it and it makes her gauche, lazy, egotistical and grasping. Harry should know better, he really should get it. It’s quite subtle because superficially they both just look like celebrity. But it’s quite different at the heart of it. She and Harry have moved on now but she is always trying to sort of conflate her sort of famousness with royal famousness and it is deeply, qualitatively different: when youre a Hollywood star, you convince yourself Youve worked for it, given people pleasure, given life to huge projects that have employed thousands, and the public owe you gratitude. And the key thing is - that you have a right to be happy. No one gives a shit if the queen was happy. When youre the queen, you know you only earn it - to the extent that you can - by ego-less service. Ironically it’s her floating about looking for tribute that pisses everyone off, as opposed to just showing up and cutting the ribbon and nevwr complaining as the queen would have.

its subtle as I say because neither of them deserve any of it but I think it’s deeply felt.

'But there were so many red flags. One family member at her wedding, I mean it’s not normal is it'

Very easy to be judgemental about that. We don't know anything about her family situation. I have a very complex relationship with my own family - if I ever got married, I would do it in secret and none of them would be there. Obvs the secret part wasn't an option for her

As I remember it, her family were selling stories and bitching about her all over US television in the SAME WEEK as her wedding. Classy 🙄

I honestly think it is people jumping on the bandwagon. It is sad that people will judge somebody of whom they have never met like this; they get so invested in their vitriol too. Why do they care that much? I suspect because they're keyboard warriors with no life of their own/or extreme jealousy. It honestly says more about them as people. I have never met MM, but she seems like a lovely warm person. Maybe if people are nicer, the narrative will change. I hope she doesn't read any of the nastiness and holds her head up high; the people critiquing will not have anywhere near the credentials she has. They forget that this is a human being, and that her children could see this in the future. No need for it, no excuse for it, no place for it.

Agreed. The “spares” tend to lead chaotic and destructive lives—look at Margaret and Andrew. Harry is doing charity work and creating content for Netflix—his polo documentary was interesting. Let him get on with his life. Perhaps people would rather he was hanging out on Epstein Island…

I agree. It's like people feel they have the right to criticise them all but GOD FORBID Charles or Camilla face critique, or William and Catherine. Why are people so willing to overlook awful behaviour because someone has a fancy title? I've seen videos of Charles treating people like crap, but it's ok because he is beyond criticism? F that!

I agree, MM had her Mum there who seems like a beautiful person. The other side of the family were selling stories, and not treating her well at all. I would disown my family if they did those things; some of them were distant to begin with, and trying to ride on her fame at any cost. Honestly, one strong person makes up for 10 toxic ones. I would rather have the one! I also have estranged relatives, and honestly life is much easier now. It is easy for those to judge who have big supportive families.

I’m a republican, @YourBrickTiger. It’s inappropriate to generalise and say things like ‘Why are people so willing to overlook awful behaviour because someone has a fancy title?’ without evidence.

The royals are a walking contradiction. I believe Queen Elizabeth did her best, especially learning from the aftermath of Diana's death and she tried to reinvent the monarchy. IMO if Charles wanted to marry Camilla - he should have been told to abdicate, like his uncle. The 'rules' had previously stated, no divorcees could marry and become king/queen and certainly not an adulterer. Rules were changed for him. Princess Margaret was not allowed to marry the love of her life, Peter Townsend. Prince Andrew wasn't allowed to marry Koo Stark. But I think the Queen genuinely wanted Harry to be happy.

Perhaps had there been a firmer ruling on the marriage, there wouldn't be such a mess now.

I don't hate Meghan. In fact, I pretty much agree with you regarding her and hart

I think she's good for Harry, but found out the hard way that she could never fit in with the royals and be comfortable. They never even stepped up to give her any support when the media were coming out with the most horrendous racist bullshit, which perhaps showed the true colours of some of them. I don't blame her and Harry for leaving the fold as they did at all.

Kate is popular because as others have said, she never rocks the boat, just gets on with the job quietly. Which is fine too.

I beg to differ with you about Camilla though. The way I see it is that Charles and Diana were directed into that totally unsuitable marriage. By both of their families. Camilla was deemed unsuitable because she "had a past", and wasn't virginal enough. I see her as the woman Charles always wanted to marry and should have been allowed to. She is now where she should always have been.

Diana didn't particularly want to be Queen as she once said if I remember rightly.

Camilla hasn't hunted for 13 years.

No hate here.

Some of her flaws:
She uses every opportunity to enrich/promote herself, including the Invictus Games, where she strutted around in various outfits, which she later got commission on via online sales, instead of supporting invictus merchandise.

She celebrates herself on Mother s Day and not her own Mother.

She disrespected the Monarchy, but is very intent on maintaining a title, and using her Royal connections as a platform.

She promotes products that are off the shelf, wite labelled products. She is not transparent about this.

Her actions and interviews are often contrived. She treats people like props.

Positives : very hard working, committed and willing to learn. Curious and questions authority.

Did you miss the years where the critique of Charles and Camilla and the spitefulness about 'Waity Katy' filled acres of newspaper pages?

The torrent of criticism these people have been subjected to would surely break most people.

Just recently there's a been newspaper criticism regarding the gardeners at Highgrove. Haven't a clue why you think these people are beyond criticism.

“I don’t want to start an argument” but I will vehemently put down anyone on this thread who disagrees with me!

You’re as bad as the people you’re trying to goad here. Just accept people have different opinions. I don’t see your reason for liking her (or not disliking her) as being anymore valid than the reasons people have for disliking her frankly.

She polarising because she is all these things. I’m sure she DOES have a lovely warm personality. If you adore her unconditionally, you’re useful to her and can get her a leg up the celebrity ladder. I’m sure she IS a humanitarian at heart. I’m sure she IS a fabulous entrepreneur. It’s just that she’s better when she has a team of the world’s most highly paid PR brains doing the legwork for her. I’m sure she IS terribly treated. And then I see the grief that all the other royals have endured over the years.

Not sure what you wanted from this thread. I’m sure she’s great at some stuff. It’s just that she utterly sucks at other stuff but thinks she’s above scrutiny for it all (while forcing herself into the public eye the whole time).