Why is Meghan hated?

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I have very strong views about the Royals especially Camilla, however I am genuinely interested and want to find out more as to why Meghan Markle seems to be so hated. I'm asking in case there is something I have missed. I do read up as much as I can and watch shows from 'both sides' of the argument, but there is nothing that I have seen so far that warrants the level of sheer hatred geared towards her - I don't mean on here necessarily, but on social media in general. She cannot do ANYTHING without a swarm of people descending on her like vampires to tear her apart.

She isn't an adulteress, she's not a paedophile or sex offender, she isn't lazy, she seems to genuinely care about people in need.....and from what has been shown, she genuinely loves Harry and is just trying to make a life with him. He left the UK to start a life away from a nest of some awful people, his mother died when he was 12, his uncle is a sex offender, there is racism and a rigid set of rules within that family where he won't be king anyway so what is wrong with him leaving?

I'm not starting this to start an argument I am genuninely interested in why she is so rabidly disliked and why? Maybe I will start to feel differently if there is more of a reason but at the moment I cannot see one?

Agreed! But I was making a point

Let's not forget she also recruited young girls to become prostitute's, she admits that. As sad as her life was, she was not blameless. She grew up in foster homes so it's no secret
So did the Rotherham girls. Its textbook grooming and designed to make the victims ' not blameless'

Yes. The girls trafficked by Maxwell were vulnerable. Some had been homeless for a while, others lived with a dysfunctional parent who just wanted $$$ and were prepared to hawk out their child. Maxwell trawled trailer parks, malls, school playgrounds for anyone who fitted this criteria. They were then showered with money and promises of modelling careers, college fees paid, training to become something. It's quite obvious to me how this came about. Your last sentence is spot on.

This is correct, however how does that differ with Ghislane who is now in jail for 20 years, until she's 80. Was it her age that means she is guilty, even though she was also groomed?

Hmmm I'm not sure that Ghislaine was groomed as such although her upbringing with Robert Maxwell will have contributed to what she was like. Given she has moved to a soft prison at Trump's behest, it would not surprise me if she is released as a way of Trump buying her silence

Epstein was linked to multiple powerful men in politics and business. It is extremely distasteful to me that the only people who have faced any form of justice are Epstein himself (now conveniently dead), a woman, and a not-very-clever prince.

I will not defend Andrew. I hope if there is sufficient evidence at some point he faces justice for anything he may have done. I suspect he won't, because it suits other people better for him to remain a decoy, and because proper digging into the evidence will expose them.

Oh God it's sickening.

I agree. Decoy for Trump and other powerful men connected to Epstein. Perhaps women too. I have a friend who is convinced Jay Z and Beyonce help traffic children. She has these crazy theories that there are tunnels running underneath P Diddy's house where children are now trapped.

But yes it is unbelievably wrong that only certain people have faced justice. What fun it would be had Charles been named too! Would expose my crazy theory that this is why he is putting so much focus on Andrew. Was he never on Epstein Island himself?? Seems very strange if so.

I thought her suicide was directly related to her husband filing for divorce and her kids not wanting anything to do with her, she hadn’t seen them for almost a year. She was clearly spiraling after her family collapsed, with accusations she lied when her Instagram post about having 2 days to live as her organs were shutting down went global. Poor woman.

I don't 'consider' him a sex pest. He has been found liable for sexual abuse by a court of law. It is a fact.

That's not true though is it ?

The Princess of Wales and the Duchess of Edinburgh are working royals in their own right.

Thats not true though is it? Theycare only working Royals because they married a Royal. If they divorce rheir HRH'S will be removed no matter what charity work they do.

Yes it is. A civil case but a judge found him guilty of sexual abuse of E Jean Carroll and thereafter defamation. A jury verdict in 2023 found Trump liable for sexually abusing and defaming her.
Just because it is a civil case doesn't mean it isn't true

Yes it is.

A federal appeals court has upheld a jury’s $5 million civil verdict against Donald Trump for sexual abuse and defamation claims brought by the writer E. Jean Carroll.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/30/appeals-court-upholds-verdict-against-trump-in-e-jean-carroll-sexual-abuse-case-00196116

And you know this because of what you’ve seen on tv, in papers, online etc. Reporting of the case. And in the case of the Sussexes, we’ve seen reports from their various court cases, as well as words from their very own mouths in their various interviews, documentaries and Harry’s book. So lots of valid sources on which to base an opinion. So it’s a bit hypocritical and nonsensical to dismiss people who don’t know them as being sad and pathetic for forming opinions based on what they’ve seen online and on tv. Not all sources are the same, or equally reliable, obviously, but plenty are reliable.

A young girl appears in your life when you're in your 40s. You don't know who she is, where she's from, anything about her life. She's pretty, she's blonde, she's available to you. She's a year older than your own daughter. You have sex with her in circumstances that you know are sordid, underhand, cannot possibly be fully consensual because you have a child her age (give or take) and you know how mature they are or aren't. You absolutely know to the core of your being that you'd never allow your own such girl to do what this girl is doing. You know that this girl has been provided to you by someone you know to be a sexual predator with a predilection for underage girls. You are associating with him because of who he opens doors to for you, because he gives you money, because he provides you with girls, because he takes you to a Caribbean island on his private jet to party with girls the exact same age as your own daughter - and you have sex with them, many of them, repeatedly. Then you go home to your life.

Time goes on. This girl grows to be a woman, and eventually you learn she came from a broken home, abused as a child, poor, American "trailer trash". She starts to advocate for herself, she goes after her pimp and she comes after you. You denigrate her publicly, you deny all knowledge, you lie, you diminish her, you accuse her of misremembering and lying and making stuff up. You get your mum to pay her 10million quid just to make her go away.

She's still only a year older than one of your own daughters. She has a family of her own now.

She ultimately unravels, publicly and privately, all of which you have intimate details of. And you think Andrew IS NOT AT LEAST PARTLY TO BLAME for her taking her own life?

Are you out of your fucking mind? Have you no shame?

Wtf?

This thread has descended into some sort of weird parallel universe. Sex offender apologists left and right.

Personally I think Ghislaine got what she deserved. Like Andrew she wanted the lifestyle, the easy money, to be wined and dined, they didn't care who they climbed over to get it. Ferguson is equally as disgusting.
Tbh I don't know how diddy got such a
lenient sentence, he was more depraved than Maxwell. It's just as well Epstein is dead or he might have been out in 4 years. Drug dealers get longer sentences.

Do I think guiffre should have gone to jail for grooming others, NO. Do I believe everything she says, NO. Would I have gone back to Epstein's a 2nd time hell NO. Have I had creepy older men try and corner/intimidate me, yes and I ran for the hills but then no one offered me $15k for a shag.

Charles is head of our church and our courts. If A has broken the law he should face the consequences.

I’m not sure what your point is. They aren’t divorced or likely to be, so the situation remains that they are married to royals and are working members of the RF in their own right.

Would I have gone back to Epstein's a 2nd time hell NO.
The thing is 17 year olds often think they are grown up and are doing things they will be fine with. Especially if being handed money. Its up to the adults around them who absolutely know they are doing something wrong to not take advantage of teenage stupidity. She herself saidcit was onky when she was older that she realised how wrong it was.

@jonthebatiste
Are you out of your fucking mind?

No but you seem to be struggling are you ok?

This thread is…something else. No wonder Andrew is still appearing in public with no apparent shame when so many people seem to be prepared to defend him…..

I am struggling with your posts, yes. And this: Would I have gone back to Epstein's a 2nd time hell NO. Have I had creepy older men try and corner/intimidate me, yes and I ran for the hills but then no one offered me $15k for a shag.

I hope you, and no daughter you may have, ever come to know what you're typing about. You haven't the first clue, or the intelligence or maturity to know when to shut up. You are cruel.

Totally agree.

Poor lamb. He's totally misunderstood 🫨