Why is Meghan hated?

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I have very strong views about the Royals especially Camilla, however I am genuinely interested and want to find out more as to why Meghan Markle seems to be so hated. I'm asking in case there is something I have missed. I do read up as much as I can and watch shows from 'both sides' of the argument, but there is nothing that I have seen so far that warrants the level of sheer hatred geared towards her - I don't mean on here necessarily, but on social media in general. She cannot do ANYTHING without a swarm of people descending on her like vampires to tear her apart.

She isn't an adulteress, she's not a paedophile or sex offender, she isn't lazy, she seems to genuinely care about people in need.....and from what has been shown, she genuinely loves Harry and is just trying to make a life with him. He left the UK to start a life away from a nest of some awful people, his mother died when he was 12, his uncle is a sex offender, there is racism and a rigid set of rules within that family where he won't be king anyway so what is wrong with him leaving?

I'm not starting this to start an argument I am genuninely interested in why she is so rabidly disliked and why? Maybe I will start to feel differently if there is more of a reason but at the moment I cannot see one?

We can see what she does as it is reported.
You still haven't said what notable things you think she should be doing ?
Again what notable things have you done with your life?

She is though - you can see them. Or do you think she sent a bot along to entertain Donald Trump at the recent US State Visit?

Fair enough. Nobody has yet been able to explain the actual value of soft diplomacy to me, but hey-I’m sure it’s there somewhere. There’s another state dinner in a month or so….

I think a PP on this thread (could have been the OP) was claiming Meghan's treatment at the hands of the press was worse than Catherine's. The usually Sussex friendly Jack Royston has written about this in Newsweek. There's a reason Harry tried to drag Catherine's experience into his court case (thankfully he hasn't succeeded). It's because she was absolutely hounded, with no protection of her own, every day for 6 or more years, until she became a member of the RF through marriage.

https://www.newsweek.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/princess-kate-paparazzi-meghan-markle-10815973

There is video footage of Catherine being chased along the road by paps , her car was surrounded . She was upskirted too .
Meanwhile Meghan had to walk up and down the street outside the DM offices to get attention !

Yes, I've been told on a few threads that what Meghan had to deal with was so much worse than Catherine - even when I've pointed out the upskirting, which is now illegal and carries a jail sentence.

I think a PP on this thread (could have been the OP) was claiming Meghan's treatment at the hands of the press was worse than Catherine's

I think it is. It has spanned years, it has evolved into a multi million dollar industry, it has spawned books, youtube channels, and such traffic on social media forums like this one. So not just 'press'. It has evolved into far more as quoted above. Articles on Meghan are mostly negative and prolific, and sometimes with an undercurrent of racism. And the countless contradictory press stories of course (William gifted Kate an avocado how lovely, Meghan is fuelling wars by eating avocados)

On here, I never saw threads about Kate to speak of (and yes I do know about the few threads on here when she had her illness)
There are four threads running at the moment about Meghan. Never seen that with Kate, even back in the day. Before she married there was maybe a couple of threads about her being Waity Katie but really nothing like the hundreds (probably thousands!) of 'isn't Meghan awful' threads.

I hope Meghan holds her head high and carries on doing what she's doing.

I expect a furious response to this of course 🤣

The operative word being was, ie, before they each married into the RF. But I suspect you know that.

I had no idea I think a PP on this thread (could have been the OP) was claiming Meghan's treatment at the hands of the press was worse than Catherine's
meant before they both married.

I responded just to this on your post at 09.25.

I didn't realise you meant ONLY before they were married.

But isn’t that purely because there is little to write on the PoW? She keeps her head down. She does her job quietly and diligently. She doesn’t speak give her opinions on things. She does the job exactly as the job description requires her to (now you can disagree on the job itself but that’s a different issue)

Meghan puts herself into the press constantly and attends public events in her own capacity. She does interviews and has done the Oprah interviews and been featured in Harry’s books. She has launched a million business ideas

there are therefore more articles on her as there is more material. There is practically nothing to write on the POW

Meghan puts herself into the press constantly and attends public events in her own capacity.

She is quite at liberty to do so.

She does interviews and has done the Oprah interviews and been featured in Harry’s books. She has launched a million business ideas

Ditto. Her prerogative, although the Oprah interview was an own goal IMHO.

If she wants to launch a million business ideas, great! no one has to buy anything, look at the launch, read about it etc.
I just don't think she deserves the constant hammering she gets for any small thing, sometimes twisting the narrative to ensure clicks.

She promotes her business ideas in public, and the public comment on them. Of course that's her prerogative. But then, people will comment on the things she makes public.

The clue was in the article I attached 🙄

I mean, it's like John Lewis complaining if people comment negatively on their Xmas ad (or any other ad). They put it out to get people's attention. So people notice it, and then have an opinion.

No-one is forcing them (or Meghan) to do the publicity. But if they want the public attention then it's only reasonable for the public to comment if they choose to.

But if you put yourself out there you will get attention. It won’t all be good. There was a lot of positive attention as well for the things she does. She just got a humanitarian award!

the point is to compare the bad press she gets vs the PoW isn't very fair when you are comparing apples and oranges. The Wales are essentially exceedingly boring unless it is a big event (as it should be!)

Meghan forcefully promotes herself as many things, often in complete contradiction to what she’s actually doing. She promotes herself as an entrepreneur/creative of unique products, but is simply slapping her label on mass produced white label goods; she promotes herself as a champion of child safety on the internet mere hours before sticking her own child all over instagram; she promotes herself as a victim, when there are numerous accounts of her being the bully. The examples go on and on. She clearly wants and needs the attention of the public and promotion through the press for her financial gain and need to be famous. She cannot demand an uncritical reception. Nobody in the public eye, courting public approval, can demand an uncritical eye. I imagine she would attract rather less critical scrutiny if she didn’t hypocritically promote herself as a royal.

She cannot demand an uncritical reception.

I don't believe she does? No one wants negative reaction but that's the nature of it all.

However, my point is I think the British media from early on made a deliberate decision to cast anything she did as wrong, bad or when she was still a working Royal... breaking protocol. I think that has led to this where we are now. i.e. nothing she can do is right.
Just my personal opinion. Opinions obviously vary!

Well she was either objectively breaking with protocol or she wasn’t. Why do you expect the press not to comment on it when she was? You can also objectively measure whether someone is lying or being a hypocrite much of the time. She’s in a position of power and influence, so the free press holding her words and deeds to account is par for the course.

But isn’t the point of protocol is that you don’t break it?

therefore if someone does break it then there is a story for the papers to write about.

when Catherine broke some minor bits of protocol in the early years she was criticised too. She has worked hard to learn the rules and therefore is pretty flawless and people now complain about that because she’s boring and a rule follower.

the rules of royal family are strict. That is why few want to join it - it is strange for those who haven’t grown up with it. I get the impression that Meghan thought it was all a bit silly and so didn’t realise the backlash she would get for walking on front of the Queen for example. It is a different culture that she should have spent more time learning about before she married in honestly. She was correctly criticised though when she did break protocol.

It is a different culture that she should have spent more time learning about before she married in honestly.

I think this is important. In any other scenario the person marrying in to a family would be rightly criticised for not trying to learn the traditional culture.

The other proof that Meghan did not have as difficult a time as Catherine is that Harry and Meghan, both in Oprah and their Netflix documentary, lied about the extent of the media coverage or intrusion.

-UK Press headlines in Oprah were doctored to make them worse (such that those clips couldn't be shown in UK)
-Pictures of crowds waiting for them were actually pictures of crowds at a Harry Potter premiere
-Pictures from an intrusive photographer of Harry were actually pictures of him with a previous girlfriend

If Meghan genuinely had such a torrid time with the press there would have been no need to make anything up.

I think she is fine. She hasn’t done anything terrible and doesn’t deserve the level of hate she gets.

However she is just doesn’t have likability. Her latest show lacks authenticity. If she was a bit more likeable she would probably get a bit more love from some quarters.

Ultimately Britian seems to be against her because she criticised the monarchy.

I do seem to remember a lot of very snobbish criticism of the PofW from the “toffs”. All that stuff about “doors to manual” and the “wisteria sisters”. Unpleasant stuff-but sadly pretty typical of what happens when you try to join the English(I use English advisedly) upper classes The stuff aimed at the DofS was more gutter press unhinged-all about fake pregnancies and poisoning Charlotte with her wedding bouquet and contributing to global warming by eating avocados. So unhinged that it’s probably easier to ignore than the relentless snobbery.

I think that's a fair point.

There was a (possibly Tatler?) article with quotes purportedly from parents who'd had children at the school at the same time as the Middleton sisters, and while they were outwardly apparently positive (lots of commenting on the girls' perfect uniforms, immaculate grooming, impressively pristine luggage and sports kit, and the elaborate picnics their parents brought for sports day etc), the undertone of 'new money trying far too hard' and 'the right type of girl shows up in an ancient blazer and with a battered trunk that had belonged to her mother' was hard to miss. Lots of comments down the years as well about her way of speaking having become dramatically more RP since her school days.

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