100 emails between Andrew and Epstein disproving dates

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So apparently this will make the mandleson debacle look like chicken feed.

Ok

Where is this report?

Wonder what his excuses will be this time!

The advert at the top off this thread felt very apt

I hope the emails get published if the exist.

@Allthefruit 😂

It’s no great surprise. They were known to be close friends so I would expect there to be a lot of correspondence.

And Andrew is an ego maniac with terrible judgement and a penchant for freebies from
rich mates. No doubt he is up to his neck in it all!

Hence why he shouldn’t be given one more pound of tax payer’s money and should just quietly shuffle off to a smaller house and be gone!

Let’s see the details but definitely potentially damning,

I look forward to reading them. I’d like to think that there will be consequences for the ‘Pronce’ but I’m not going to hold my breath.

Unless they load him onto a flight to the US I really can't see what difference more evidence will make. It's annoying but it is what it is.

I am genuinely curious as to what Epstein had that made people who absolutely should have known better fawn all over him. Andrew is neither rich nor smart, but Jes Staley (former CO of Barclays Gobal) is, and Peter Mandelson is intelligent and, you would assume, politically aware. And yet all of them stayed in close and warm contact with Epstein after he was jailed for underage sexual offences. Why did they all ignore what must have been clear and obvious red flags and not avoid him like the plague?

(I’d be amazed if Andrew’s emails are worse than Jes Staley’s, they were toe-curlingly awkward to read. And once he decided it was probably too high-risk to email him from his personal account, he got his daughter to act as his go-between!!)

Oh well they have all utterly ruined their reputations and careers over their colossal failures of judgement, more fool them. Funny how it’s only the UK where this is happening though.

I'm quite pleased that people are losing their jobs over this, wish it was happening in other countries.

My theory is that Epstein made a point of gathering dirt on people so they were afraid of secrets coming out if they stopped meeting with him.

I think that was more than hinted at in the Netflix doc. Something about archives of CCTV that authorities were unable to recover. Apparently. Heavy implication he loved to get compromising footage of people, hoarded it, so he had control over people. So he offers up young girls to weak people with no moral compass, it's all on camera, he's got them.

Nothing will happen though. 🤷‍♀️ This despicable creature won’t be sent to the US and the police won’t investigate. So that’s that. It’s just more gossip at this stage.

I wonder if it's because he had so many very powerful contacts that they assumed they'd all be untouchable because he had so much of the establishment in his pocket during those years in the late 80s and early 90s.

He was also clearly doing something dodgy with his secretive financial deals - he probably had a lot of leverage over people with questionable financial deals.

And pre the Me Too movement a lot of these powerful men thought they would never be held accountable to anything they did to mere women.

kompromat is the key to everything. It’s the way JE got his money in the first place, and the reason why he chased influential people and managed to keep hold of them long after they should have distanced themselves. His relationship with GM was a kompromat management partnership. She learned it from her father. It’s really clear and obvious and I don’t know why the story continues to be presented as being about sex and indulgence. It’s about blackmail.

The answer is that he had dirt on all of them.

They might be more intelligent in some cases than others, the thing they all have in common is thinking they're untouchable.

I’d agree deadpan.

I agree that their poor judgement is mind-blowing but I think this Guardian piece holds some clues:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/10/my-best-pal-messages-between-mandelson-and-epstein-suggest-a-close-bond

Staley allegedly sought Epstein’s help to meet Mandy as presumably they could, allegedly, be useful to one another, with the result that they might both feel beholden to Epstein for the introductions? And Epstein used his Manhattan residence to facilitate all of this?

Apparently Epstein, astute networker extraordinaire, used to host dozens of completely legitimate salon-type dinners on a regular basis in NY where industrialists, bankers, scientists, senior politicians and celebrities would all mingle; similar to the above, with the upshot that a lot of influential people ended up feeling grateful to Jeffrey.

And these events, which gave no hint of Jeffrey’s darker side involving the sexual abuse of trafficked minors, gained him a certain legitimacy among the elite.

Epstein appears to have operated just as Saville did, by hiding in plain sight, and mixing legitimate work and above board social networking with nefarious and criminal activities, duping many influential people, and using friendships in exalted circles to his own advantage, gaining legitimacy second and third hand.

Mandy I think, if you look at the history of his previous resignations, has always had a weakness over money or being impressed by wealth eg Geoffrey Robinson and the Hindaju debacles. And you can imagine him alone in NY as deputy PM thinking he might make more “interesting” contacts staying at Jeffrey’s and all the better if he gets to keep his £400 nightly government stipend or whatever was allocated for hotel accommodation? He presumably never imagined that any of it would become the subject of public scrutiny sixteen years later?

And the only person (apart from Epstein himself) who has seen the inside of a cell is a Brit.

And a female. All those men and only a woman currently behind bars.

I agree and given the ducking and diving round palaces over the serving of civil court papers the likelihood of a proncely loading onto a US bound plane is nil.

Urgh have just seen footage of the nonce coming out of the Duchess of Kent’s funeral and sidling up to PW, puffins chest out trying to engage with PW. PW keeps his gaze forwards says one word or two and blanks him, at one point scratching/ wiping his nose.

This may be cynical @CathyorClaire but I simply don't think there is the will amongst those who who could force Andrew to go to the US. I'm not talking about the Royal family but about those very powerful men who knew Epstein and who are able to stay in the shadow whilst the spotlight is on the royal idiot. If Andrew saw his day in court attention would turn elsewhere.