Harry meeting the king just now

[Justanotherdramalama]

I think he's going cap in hand to ask for money. I really hope he's not got the nerve to ask to come back!

I agree with all you write other than the first sentande, where you don’t think it’s deeper than Harry is adrift without his former life. I don’t think that’s it really.

i think it’s actually much grubbier than that,

I think no one will sign them for big money any more, Amazon, Netflix, paramont, Spotify,no one is interested, and they know, as they’ve always known, that they can leverage the royal connections for money, getting back in , doing some joint appearances, the half in half out could likely mean another big deal for them.

and I think thsts all this is, Netflix all but shut the door. No one else is buying either, clearly with love Megan and as ever is a flop since the initial curiosity. If they can get back to a position where they are aappearing with Charles, standing on the balcony, whatever, they can monetise it.

i don’t think this is he’s remotely adrift, I think it’s they’ve come to the end of the road and need royal connections as leverage to keep making money.

I think no one will sign them for big money any more, Amazon, Netflix, paramont, Spotify,no one is interested

An excellent post, @Brightlittlecanary, but on the above does anyone know what happened to the new thing with Lemonada?

I realise they're not in the same league as Netflix, Spotify, etc, but at the time Meghan's agreement with them was made out to be the latest big thing, and I'm not sure if they've done anything else after the first Confessions of a Female Founder

@PuzzledandpissedoffI'm sure Meghan said in one of her interviews recently that she needed to just focus on her business now, and heavily implied if not overtly stated that there wouldn’t be another season of COAFF. It felt like a bit of a face saving exercise to position it has her choice rather than being dropped because it was a total flop.

Obviously we'll never know but it would have been interesting to see if Harry was as keen to reconcile if their businesses had been a success.

Maybe we do know though, as when they were successful or at least having deals chucked at them, not only did they not wish to reconcile, they were attacking.

and if this was just he was lost and adrift and wanted his old life he’d not be constantly briefing the media. The fact he is, tells us this is just about trying to leverage their royal connections for money, it’s the half in half out. That’s why he’s leaked about doing a public appearance with Charles, Charles maybe coming to invictus. Maybe even William. Coming over every 3 months or so, now Charles will be pleased to have him sd William is work shy.

that’d not about reconciliation, that’d about positioning himself so they can make another deal.

He’s so dumb to be having a go at William now 🤦‍♀️

I mean he’s going to be king, and it might not be that far in the future. Who knows if forgiveness would ever be possible on a personal level - maybe not - but even if it were, there’s no way William could tolerate someone like that around his reign, taking potshots at the monarch whenever he wants attention.

I wonder whether Harry thinks William is the one refusing him what he wants and is hoping either to undermine his reputation to weaken his grip on the situation, or maybe he accepts that it’s not happening but now wants revenge.

Agree, he prob does think it’s William, like he thinks it was William and Charles who stopped the queen letting him do half in half out. Always trying to blame someone other than the decision maker.

hes so so jealous of William and his life.that he’s turned it into William must feel threatened and jealous of him and Megan, in his own head,. It’s clear that for decades William has just wanted his liability of a brother to behave, that he was sick of it. Now he wants him to stay gone.becsyse Harry doesn’t just tarnish the monarchy, he makes it all about him and not the charity works.

i think this is it though, the final nail in the coffin, the leaking after the meeting was too much. Charles will meet them privately if they want to come over. With no more on offer. Ever, and when Charles goes, William will have no contact at all.

Like her closing down the podcasts to concentrate on her business .....yup.

Many thanks, elessar; now you mention this it rings a bell, but with so much coming out of Montecito I sometimes forget bits!

He’s so dumb to be having a go at William now 🤦‍♀️
I mean he’s going to be king, and it might not be that far in the future

Edited to add well why not, @NormaMajors1992coat? He had a go at Charles when his mother was Queen and now his father has the top job it's William's turn ... almost as if he learned nothing when the holder of the crown shifted so soon after his previous attacks

What that ‘revenge’ would look like is worrying though.

Last time when HIHO was refused but they had the world at their feet in terms of public/media on their side evidenced by the huge deals they managed to achieve - and were arguably the ‘winners’ with the potential of Hollywood A list, global humanitarian, billionaire status in their grasp - they embarked on a multi media, multimedia campaign of interviews, documentaries, books etc spewing their bile targeted at specific individuals.

Whats going to happen now when they are potentially financially and reputationally bankrupt - and desperate for commercial deals which seemingly need the BRF adjacency to have chance of coming off - and this is refused?

I think the bitter narcissistic rage will explode!

You make a very valid point, @Everyonesawher, about the difference between spitting and snarling when there seemed to be plenty of opportunities as opposed to now - though amusingly they're reportedly due to receive Project Healthy Minds' "Humanitarians of the Year" award next month, for their mental health advocacy

I have my own views about how this will end for Harry, but lacking a crystal ball I'll just have to wait and see like everyone else - though I really wouldn't want to be in that SoCal mansion right now

Edited to add link: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/prince-harry-meghan-honor-world-mental-health-day-festival-1236385634/

He could always hand over to his lazy heir and see what he makes of it.

I predict a hash

'lazy heir' - how little you seem to understand.

Thankfully you're here to present the no doubt overwhelming evidence to the contrary 🙂

There’s plenty of evidence of the work the PoW is doing. People who are in principle against the monarchy won’t acknowledge it so there’s nothing to be gained by pointing it out. I appreciate views may differ about whether we should have a monarchy but name calling doesn’t advance the cause.

I have only just come round to accept that a RF is, on a balance, the best thing for this country and I will feel so disappointed if Charles gives him any money or digs him out of a hole he’s got himself into. He’s disgraced our country, and deserves nothing. He’s had so many opportunities in life most of us can only dream of and he’s squandered them. Don’t get me started on the wife.

W is lazy.

All of them are. I'm sure this link will be dismissed but I'll leave it here anyway in the hope it's food for thought:

https://www.republic.org.uk/prince_william_costing_taxpayer_over_127_000_an_hour_republic

Wouldn't waste my time trying. You have your view - I have mine. I also have a lot of experience working in executive roles, and understand that what is seen upfront rarely represents the hours that have gone in behind the scenes.

Republic quote for a totally unbiased view!

@CathyorClaire but clearly that is nonsense and does not do republic any favors.

It doesn't take into account preparation time or travel time. They were in my neck of the woods recently. 1.5 -2 hours from London depending on traffic (they did travel by car) They were here for 2 hours including a short speech, a tour and a chat with some workers, I believe they then went on to another, local site for a shorter stop. Maybe half an hour away and half an hours visit. So they would actually have had 3.5-4.5 hours travel. 2.5 hours visible public engagement. A briefing may have been before travel or during travel. I don't know. Presumably security arrangements before they leave but could discuss the project, people etc. on rout. So a 30 security briefing prior to leaving.

Republic calls it 2 engagements at 1 hour each. 2 hours work.
Actually it was more like 6.5-7.5 hours, a full day.

If this example I witnessed was more average than republic's view then Williams 172 engagements would be more like 86 days or 17 weeks or 4 and a bit months. Still poor enough for us to question his work ethic, but more realistic.

Which then makes me question republic. If they are lying to make it look so much worse when they really don't need to then they don't have a leg to stand on. What else are they lying about, or omitting from the royals diary in order to try to make them look as bad as possible.

@Hoolahoophop and that is only the reported public engagements.

There are also unreported engagements, work for the Duchy (William is reported as visiting Duchy land every week) and work for the Royal Foundation (trustee report available).

All these things are available if people really do want to know - but mostly they just want soundbites that say 'lazy'.

@Hoolahoophop, I agree. I’m a republican but I have no time for ‘Republic’ and their stunts and hyperbole.

Where does he go? Cornwall, Isles of Scilly weekly?
I think not
He appointed a lot of new people that he knows to run it when he took it over

Even if this is exaggerated in Republic's favour, it is a poor work ethic

Why can't William do the equivalent of a full-time job?

The Duchy of Cornwall owns land and propert in Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, London, Herefordshire, Isles of Scilly and I think there is an industrial estate in Milton Keyes

I know that. However, the majority by far is in Cornwall and I doubt weekly visits to Milton Keynes are much use. A Waitrose warehouse and a b&q. 🤣