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Harry meeting the king just now

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Justanotherdramalama · 10/09/2025 18:15

I think he's going cap in hand to ask for money. I really hope he's not got the nerve to ask to come back!

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bluegreygreen · 26/09/2025 10:01

My2cents1975 · 26/09/2025 09:49

W has no shortage of next generation cousins who can be drafted in as needed. The Phillips/Tindalls, Edinburghs, Snowdons, Chattos, Kents, Gloucesters, Windsors, etc...future KW5 has more than enough cousins to help serve the various realms.

IMHO, it is California PR that is pushing a narrative that H is needed as a working royal. It is remarkable that anyone can amplify this narrative with a straight face after H went to Ukraine against the advice of the UK government.

H's photo op was more important to him than the foreign policy needs of the UK.

Exactly.

He disregards specific government requests.

He accuses HM's courts, and the King himself, of unconstitutional behaviour.

In what circumstance could he ever be depended on as a working royal?

TooTooMuchEverything · 26/09/2025 10:18

William has said he wants to small “r” Royal.

I don’t know what that looks like.

However, I don’t think it means drafting in the next generation’s cousins and trying to recreate the Royal Family of QE2’s time.

And would those cousins want it? Looking at the Tindalls for example they seem to have very good lives, have successful careers snd businesses. and manage to fly under the radar in regard to their personal lives, most of the time. Why would they ever want to be full time royals? And subject to the regular microscopic investigations of media, royal experts and the public (us). It’s a bit of a poisoned chalice? And you then sign your kids up for similar exposure once the media deem them old enough to hound and criticise.

I think they’d want to be half in half out, if that. And even that would mean public interest in their day to day lives, I imagine. And we know half in and half out is not allowed?

jumpingthehighjump · 26/09/2025 10:37

W has no shortage of next generation cousins who can be drafted in as needed. The Phillips/Tindalls, Edinburghs, Snowdons, Chattos, Kents, Gloucesters, Windsors, etc...future KW5 has more than enough cousins to help serve the various realms

None of those do royal duties apart from Ed/Sophie and occasionally Gloucesters and Zara at a garden party. God, imagine being invited to a royal garden party and meeting Mike Tindall, I can't think of anything worse
And is anyone serious about wheeling out the Duke of Kent who has been bereaved in the last few weeks and is just about to turn 90.

Everyonesawher · 26/09/2025 11:37

My2cents1975 · 26/09/2025 09:49

W has no shortage of next generation cousins who can be drafted in as needed. The Phillips/Tindalls, Edinburghs, Snowdons, Chattos, Kents, Gloucesters, Windsors, etc...future KW5 has more than enough cousins to help serve the various realms.

IMHO, it is California PR that is pushing a narrative that H is needed as a working royal. It is remarkable that anyone can amplify this narrative with a straight face after H went to Ukraine against the advice of the UK government.

H's photo op was more important to him than the foreign policy needs of the UK.

I wonder how he squared this trip with the IG board?

Surely they would have taken the advice from the British Government that the visit was not advised?

Has he gone against their wishes - unless he unilaterally is allowed to do his own thing?

He’s reckless and feckless.

Not fit for purpose.

Letmeoutodhere · 26/09/2025 11:52

There’s an article in the DM( dread) about a wedge being driven between Charles and William as a deliberate ploy. Has anyone read it? I can’t.

Thedom · 26/09/2025 12:00

Harry has been complaining about not liking the UK since long before he moved to the US.

Yes, everything they have done in the US has been a failure, but how will flying back and forth to a country he clearly detests, change that? even if he does get to stand on a Royal Balcony beside his brother and sister in law, I can’t see that giving him the success he initially wanted when he moved abroad.

He is a multimillionaire, he really shouldn’t need to be hanging onto the coat tails of British charities, especially when he dislikes the country and its people.

Everyonesawher · 26/09/2025 12:01

Letmeoutodhere · 26/09/2025 11:52

There’s an article in the DM( dread) about a wedge being driven between Charles and William as a deliberate ploy. Has anyone read it? I can’t.

Edited

yes @Letmeoutodhere - discussed on this thread from midday yesterday - here’s the link:

https://archive.is/P7HxX

Letmeoutodhere · 26/09/2025 12:18

Thanks. I didn’t see that.

Letmeoutodhere · 26/09/2025 12:19

jumpingthehighjump · 16/09/2025 06:01

@Itstwelveoclocksomewhere
Great post, agree with it all.

Realistically people know what the family want them to know. I expect the public don't know a far greater amount than they think about any of them.

Especially this ^^
I think of it like an iceberg. What we know about them is above water. The rest.. like finances, their thoughts feelings, what they actually DO is the iceberg below water. We really know nothing. We're duped by the media and by the massive amount of tight lipped aides, courtiers, men in grey and even the government of the day. There's no transparency whatsoever. It's a complete cover up job. Yet we accept it. Totally bizarre.

I agree about W. I think he hates it all and hates his brother for getting out because he's left trying to hold the monarchy together. I don't think it's anything to do with Harry's silly book, it's the fact that Harry has got the freedom he wants. Whatever anyone says, you really can't say he's attacking the role of PoW with joy and vigour!. Far from it. I think he loathes having to do it all and it shows
Please note, this is an opinion post 😂

I agree. Who could blame him in all honesty.

Letmeoutodhere · 26/09/2025 12:20

Thedom · 26/09/2025 12:00

Harry has been complaining about not liking the UK since long before he moved to the US.

Yes, everything they have done in the US has been a failure, but how will flying back and forth to a country he clearly detests, change that? even if he does get to stand on a Royal Balcony beside his brother and sister in law, I can’t see that giving him the success he initially wanted when he moved abroad.

He is a multimillionaire, he really shouldn’t need to be hanging onto the coat tails of British charities, especially when he dislikes the country and its people.

He wants the free house and securidee.

jumpingthehighjump · 26/09/2025 12:22

he really shouldn’t need to be hanging onto the coat tails of British charities

19 years with WellChild is hardly hanging onto coat tails. They are really positive about his involvement and always say so after his visits. He's never missed an annual Awards day except during one COVID year when he went online for it

They like him, he wants to be part of the charity, What's the problem?

jamnpancakes · 26/09/2025 12:37

Harry will be wondering what's being said in Balmoral!

Thedom · 26/09/2025 12:57

He likes to use his charities to benefit himself, if this account is accurate, not a good look for any patron. He was also criticized for using the charity to bolster his own PR.

‘A widely reported story from early September 2025 claims that GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) CEO Emma Walmsley refused Prince Harry's request for a private jet to attend the WellChild Awards in the UK, citing the extravagance and hypocrisy of the request for someone who advocates for climate action. The report suggests this rejection was a public rebuke, reflecting growing corporate reluctance to fund Harry's "entitled" lifestyle and diminishing influence”

jumpingthehighjump · 26/09/2025 13:11

To counter that

WellChild's executive, Matt James, highlighted the positive impact Harry has on families, noting that his presence provides a "lift" and acknowledges their resilience in overcoming challenges. The charity has kept him as a Patron since he stepped back from royal duties, emphasizing his genuine connection to their work.

Prince Harry branded ‘absolute gem’ for beautiful gesture to parents with seriously ill children at WellChild Awards

And from WellChilds own website

Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex, who has been patron of WellChild for 17 years attended the ceremony for the fifteenth occasion and spent time with each of the winners and their families at a pre-ceremony reception, listening to their stories and creating unforgettable memories. Over the years he has played an important role in assisting WellChild to raise both awareness and vital funds, including personal commitments himself, to help families get the care they need.

(I thought it was 19 years, it's 17)

Nowhere does it say he is using the charity

TooTooMuchEverything · 26/09/2025 13:17

Thedom · 26/09/2025 12:57

He likes to use his charities to benefit himself, if this account is accurate, not a good look for any patron. He was also criticized for using the charity to bolster his own PR.

‘A widely reported story from early September 2025 claims that GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) CEO Emma Walmsley refused Prince Harry's request for a private jet to attend the WellChild Awards in the UK, citing the extravagance and hypocrisy of the request for someone who advocates for climate action. The report suggests this rejection was a public rebuke, reflecting growing corporate reluctance to fund Harry's "entitled" lifestyle and diminishing influence”

@Thedom I've been trying to find where the quote you used is from. Have I missed a post?

Thedom · 26/09/2025 13:26

Of course the Charity won’t say he is ‘using’ them, and I have no doubt he does bring a welcome lift to the annual charity event he attends, but that doesn’t negate the fact he has very high expectations for his expenses from a charity that is not that well funded at all.

He announced a substantial donation of 1 million quid to the BBC children in need, who raised £39,000,000 in 2024 alone. Imagine what that £1,000,000, or even half of it, could have done for a charity that barely raises round £1,500,000 in 2024.

So we know why he put his money where he did …. hanging on to the coat tails of British charities for PR purposes.

diddl · 26/09/2025 13:33

Letmeoutodhere · 26/09/2025 12:18

Thanks. I didn’t see that.

There's another one "Someone is trying to drive a wedge between Charles and William. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but even my royal sources say something 'calculated' and odd is going on. This is what's really happening, "

Is that the one you mean?

diddl · 26/09/2025 13:38

does this work?

prelovedusername · 26/09/2025 13:38

Thedom · 26/09/2025 13:26

Of course the Charity won’t say he is ‘using’ them, and I have no doubt he does bring a welcome lift to the annual charity event he attends, but that doesn’t negate the fact he has very high expectations for his expenses from a charity that is not that well funded at all.

He announced a substantial donation of 1 million quid to the BBC children in need, who raised £39,000,000 in 2024 alone. Imagine what that £1,000,000, or even half of it, could have done for a charity that barely raises round £1,500,000 in 2024.

So we know why he put his money where he did …. hanging on to the coat tails of British charities for PR purposes.

Spot on, @Thedom

Everyonesawher · 26/09/2025 13:45

jumpingthehighjump · 26/09/2025 13:11

To counter that

WellChild's executive, Matt James, highlighted the positive impact Harry has on families, noting that his presence provides a "lift" and acknowledges their resilience in overcoming challenges. The charity has kept him as a Patron since he stepped back from royal duties, emphasizing his genuine connection to their work.

Prince Harry branded ‘absolute gem’ for beautiful gesture to parents with seriously ill children at WellChild Awards

And from WellChilds own website

Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex, who has been patron of WellChild for 17 years attended the ceremony for the fifteenth occasion and spent time with each of the winners and their families at a pre-ceremony reception, listening to their stories and creating unforgettable memories. Over the years he has played an important role in assisting WellChild to raise both awareness and vital funds, including personal commitments himself, to help families get the care they need.

(I thought it was 19 years, it's 17)

Nowhere does it say he is using the charity

But that is comparing apples and pears. One person is in need of WellChild for his livelihood as much as PH - so is not going to rock his own boat - whilst the other is the global leader of a huge multinational company sponsored this charity and can call it as she sees fit.

I am glad she has spoken out and been transparent calling out hypocrisy.

I also doubt she spoke out without the knowledge and approval of WellChild.

PH is an entitled, delusional, grandiose, arrogant oaf - we have seen it consistently in his work life, public life and private life - and how he has operated with other charities. There is no surprise here that he’s been on the ponce again.

I wonder if he is under pressure at IG and been given his marching orders unless he delivers a big stunt like getting KC3 in attendance for Birmingham 2027? But that’s a looooong way off and it gives him far too much time to mess up.

jumpingthehighjump · 26/09/2025 13:54

We dont agree.

To my mind criticising a long relationship between Harry and wellchild is like criticising the charity itself which doesn't come across well

They like him and he likes them and that's what matters

Theresabatinmykitchen · 26/09/2025 13:54

I just don’t understand posters on here who are apparently hugely against the monarchy and yet are also cheerleaders for Harry and Meghan, it’s like hating the conservatives with a passion and wanting them ousted but loving Boris Johnson and wanting him back as PM despite all his misdemeanours. Baffling.

Everyonesawher · 26/09/2025 13:56

jumpingthehighjump · 26/09/2025 13:54

We dont agree.

To my mind criticising a long relationship between Harry and wellchild is like criticising the charity itself which doesn't come across well

They like him and he likes them and that's what matters

Yes we disagree.

Having a moral backbone to call out explicitly any exploitation of WellChild funds is not criticising the charity - it’s protecting it.

Theresabatinmykitchen · 26/09/2025 13:57

PH is an entitled, delusional, grandiose, arrogant oaf - we have seen it consistently in his work life, public life and private life - and how he has operated with other charities. There is no surprise here that he’s been on the ponce again.

Well said, Prince on the ponce is a fitting name for him.

Mylovelygreendress · 26/09/2025 13:59

Theresabatinmykitchen · 26/09/2025 13:54

I just don’t understand posters on here who are apparently hugely against the monarchy and yet are also cheerleaders for Harry and Meghan, it’s like hating the conservatives with a passion and wanting them ousted but loving Boris Johnson and wanting him back as PM despite all his misdemeanours. Baffling.

It is very strange given that H and M are very keen to remain Royal with titles , security , tours etc .

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