As ever/WLM2- puts the boasting into hosting

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Continuing the on from the As ever thread

• Funny article from Jan Moir

https://archive.ph/UfTPx

• Turns out Chrissy wasn’t the only known bully that Meg invited onto the show. David Chang has serious anger issues and has bullied staff

https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/tvfilm/meghan-markle-s-shameless-pr-stunt-with-david-chang-is-disgusting-b1244549.html

• Megs new show hasn’t appeared in the Top ten on NF in the UK or US, which she had done for the first series. NF aren’t promoting it other that in the ‘new this week’ section. You also have to scroll along to find it.

• No stock sold out yet

Children in Need is a hugely well supported charity, I read they have had donations in excess of £1 billion since their first appeal in the 80’s, their annual appeal fundraiser brings in £40 million + every year, over a few days.

Yep, Harry is trying to buy his way back in with the British public.

Also interested in that it is his personal money not Archewell - why is that? Is Archewell in trouble ?

I’m curious about this as well. This is exactly what Archewell was set up to do - distribute donations to charities. It has given money to charities outside the UK before too, so it’s not a problem caused by Children In Need being out of the US. Very strange.

I think it's because it needs to be seen to be from Prince Harry directly.
It's the optics.

I agree.

He really doesn’t understand people at all. This will do nothing to change the general opinion of him at all.

You're right, he took it all for granted. All the money, privilege, status and popularity. He thinks the UK taxpayers' money should be used to fund unlimited security.
He's so entitled, he must think we're all going to be lining the streets cheering, like everyone did for their wedding.

Well once upon a time Camilla was once very disliked. She’s been rehabilitated over the years, although a lot of people haven’t forgotten, it could possibly be the same for Harry, if he changes his behaviour. Would depend on Meghan & RF stances of course.

I’m not sure I see it, but I think there was another poster who was in PR, who thought it was a possibility.

He’s wasted it in terms of the difference it makes to him, I doubt it was actually his money anyway.
People want him to say sorry and I’ve acted very badly, it’s the one thing he won’t do.

I remember those days very well however Camilla never complained and just quietly got on with her life.
It has taken a long time but I think most people agree she is doing a good job especially with her underrated work with Women’s Aid etc
If Harry ( and his wife) shut up they might be in with a chance but by then the Wales DC will be grabbing all the headlines .

I don't think it will, it's very obvious he's trying to buy his way back into favour.
ETA - and why now , he hasn't donated to CIN before has he ?

He hasn't got the work ethic of Camilla though, or the application, or the humility.

What was the figure quoted that it cost the Home Office - scarce cash from hard grafting (not grifting) British tax payers - to defend the case brought against them by PH? Maybe he’s getting ahead of that accusation for his own benefit?

He's stuck in the past.

Apparently after further investigation, he called it an “investment “ not a donation in his announcement! Very revealing I would think and this “investment “ was actually made in December. Why are we hearing about it now? 🤔

That is interesting, so it’s not a donation after all.

I had to google what the difference might be…..

“The main difference is that a donation is a gift given with no expectation of financial return, while an investment is a provision of capital with the expectation of a financial return, even if that return also includes social impact.”

How bizarre.

The thing with Camilla is that she was reviled because of the perceived treatment of Diana. In reality, I think people who know her have always spoken really highly of her, and I don't think the same can be said of Harry.
Diana (and the press) made sure Camilla was very definitely seen as the terrible other woman who just couldn't keep away from Charles and wrecked the marriage. She suffered from very personal comparisons with Diana in terms of looks and, at the time, character. Over time, I think people have seen that it wasn't quite that one sided and it wasn't a case of Evil Camilla Vs Saint Diana (although it still is for lots of folk).
In the meantime, she's stayed loyal to the RF and it's obvious that she and KC are a really good match. I think, had she survived, Diana would be on to at least marriage number 3 by now and there would be a very different public perception of her. It's a tragedy that she died, but it's preserved her in the imagination as adored, beautiful and beyond criticism.

I think there's so much other big news going on this week that it's not a surprise it's been pushed down the news agenda but I also suspect with the Mail it's partly to do with the group legal action that's still pending, with Harry and others suing for hacking etc. The more negative stuff they print about him, the more it strengthens his argument that they have a vendetta.

Also, on subject of his donation, it feels like he looked at all the charities in the UK and tried to work out which would curry him most favour with public. Frankly I'm surprised he hasn't yet corralled his kids into doing 100 laps of their Montecito garden...

I think those are excellent points, @Butteredtoast55

Prince Harry has made a £1.1m personal donation to @BBCCiN for Nottingham’s Community Recording Studio youth charity which he’s visiting today, and for other local organisations tackling youth violence. Harry said of the donation: “This isn’t just charity, it’s an investment

Agree. Diana had a least six affairs that we know about - some whilst married and whilst pointing the finger elsewhere - the first when PH was barely 2 years old. That’s quite prolific in her short life IMHO - also these involved stalking and targeting of married men. She was quite disingenuous, obsessive and preoccupied with meeting her own impulsive needs seemingly over and above those of her DCs. Personally I found it abhorrent that she could be so vindictive to rinse the dirty laundry of her marriage on a global stage with zero concern of how that collateral damage would land on her sensitive teenage sons away at boarding school. She and PH have similar self absorbed, flawed and vexatious brittle personalities.

That just PR puff, he clearly doesn’t mean investment literally - this is a donation.

Good points, @Madchest , that's exactly what she was like.
Plus, the "doting mother" thing was less convincing when you consider how little time she spent with her sons that final summer. Sons she didn't see much even during term time.

I have to say I really dislike the spin on Camilla’s rehabilitation and the attacks on Diana.

Camilla is not a “good egg”, she did play a huge part in wrecking Charles and Diana’s marriage (which was doomed anyway). Diana’s affairs began later after long periods of misery during which time her husband was turning to Camilla for support. Of course she did lots of things wrong, was a flawed and complicated character and must have been hell to live with, she was totally the wrong wife for Charles. But Camilla was not blameless by any stretch of the imagination.

I think Camilla is shaping up to be an excellent Queen Consort, is a far better wife to Charles than Diana was, she is brilliant at the job. But she was also a home wrecker.

The Queen was very smart and her ‘don’t complain’ thing really does work. No one wants to hear a millionaire/billionaire complaining about how hard their life is.
Camilla has played the game and won, keep quiet, do the job. It absolutely works. It’s why Anne is admired so much.
Harry won’t ever get it. When he was working, he didn’t do much, but if we don’t have to hear his moaning people don’t care so much, turned up when he needed to and pissed about the rest of the time. Complaining just draws attention to how little you do and how your life isn’t that hard.

@FitatFifty - you're so right. There was a section in Spare where he complained about being asked to go on a tour when he was feeling "tired". Honestly, you couldn't make it up.
All those complaints he had about his life, just made me think; he has no clue.