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The royal family

William's non attendance to important events

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Spectre8 · 20/08/2025 07:33

Since there is a flurry of discussion on another thread its probably best to create a thread for it to take place here and not derail another one.

So William is not attending a number of important events the recent one being the VJ day..lots of you think he should have after all he is the future King and if he can't make time for these things then it begs the question what is the point of them?

So discuss away...what should he turning up to, what is his actual role if he starts to not do these types of things...

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TheignT · 20/08/2025 17:12

Just imaging a post on here from the mother of three with cancer saying her husband is constantly popping off abroad on business. He'd be called all the heartless bastards under the sun.

Let him support his wife and kids, he's got a long life in front of him attending events unless something tragic happens.

SoNotaRealHousewife · 20/08/2025 17:13

Tutorpuzzle · 20/08/2025 16:47

So all your obfuscation and attempts to derail this thread is because you’re cross with @mumsnet?

You have commitment to your cause, I’ll give you that, @jeffgoldblum .

(Plenty of other forums out there, though.)

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@jeffgoldblumhasnt tried to derail the thread at all

Spectre8 has gotten exactly what she wanted though

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 17:13

TheignT · 20/08/2025 17:12

Just imaging a post on here from the mother of three with cancer saying her husband is constantly popping off abroad on business. He'd be called all the heartless bastards under the sun.

Let him support his wife and kids, he's got a long life in front of him attending events unless something tragic happens.

Catherine has been cancer free since January.

bluegreygreen · 20/08/2025 17:16

The King, the Gloucesters, and the Duchess of Edinburgh all have patronages linked to the war in the far East so it made sense for them to carry out formal duties for VJ day.
Having said that, I do think that William has misstepped by not being seen as part of the commemoration this year, as it's likely to be one of the last with veterans there.

At the micro level it’s meeting with citizens across the four nations, highlighting their successes, show casing the best of the UK, talking to people and getting their opinions and current feelings about their lives and feeding that information up the chain or using the monarch’s convening power to bring elements from government, business and non profits to help tackle a problem.

@wordler I think much of what PPoW do is on this level, though not officially reported in the Court Circular. If you read articles where people have been dealing with them over months and years (wrt Royal Foundation work, Earthshot, more recently the Duchy) there is consistent feedback that they know what they're talking about, listen and make changes. The convening power is especially important in something like Earthshot, for example.

wordler · 20/08/2025 17:17

LidlAmaretto · 20/08/2025 17:02

Fair enough if that's the core of the duties of the Hos (and that's fine) we don't need so many of them, and they don't need so many houses and staff. They at most need 4 people- 2 couples. The Monarch and the heir and spouses. The rest of them go off- no titles, no Royal duties apart from turning up to family occasions if invited. Two homes and a core staff each and no preferential treatment at all. In other words behave like Monarchies in more modern and less archaic and class ridden countries.

I agree that a full look at what we expect from the head of state and which assets are managed and publicly funded is overdue.

I think the late Queen's long reign and that she had four children who were the first British royals born after the age of deference was over, and long after you could marry them off to other countries royal children to make alliances.

All at the same time as the emergence and growth of broadcast then internet media - it helped create this image of 'The Royal Family' encouraging people to focus on the soap opera element rather than the constitutional monarchy element.

Now it should be possible to bring up the non direct heir line to fully expect to do well at school, get qualifications and have a serious plan for a more regular working life.

TheignT · 20/08/2025 17:17

Whatacircus · 20/08/2025 17:03

Thank you @Spectre8 for this thread. Comedy gold. The staunch and loyal 'high horse defenders' are really scrabbling, throwing in Harry and even the Kremlin.
Bottom line William is lazy and cannot be arsed. There are many parents who would love to be able to take time out to parent like he has done but don't have that luxury.
Using cancer to excuse Kate is despicable and an insult to all cancer sufferers. If she is still suffering side effects then she shouldn't pick the more glamorous events to appear in public. It's not a good look especially to the many who are struggling to survive, hold a family and home together while having cancer treatments.

So you think he should have less time with his children because other people can't have as much time as him? Surely every loving parent wants to have the maximum they can, why should he be different.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 17:17

bluegreygreen · 20/08/2025 17:16

The King, the Gloucesters, and the Duchess of Edinburgh all have patronages linked to the war in the far East so it made sense for them to carry out formal duties for VJ day.
Having said that, I do think that William has misstepped by not being seen as part of the commemoration this year, as it's likely to be one of the last with veterans there.

At the micro level it’s meeting with citizens across the four nations, highlighting their successes, show casing the best of the UK, talking to people and getting their opinions and current feelings about their lives and feeding that information up the chain or using the monarch’s convening power to bring elements from government, business and non profits to help tackle a problem.

@wordler I think much of what PPoW do is on this level, though not officially reported in the Court Circular. If you read articles where people have been dealing with them over months and years (wrt Royal Foundation work, Earthshot, more recently the Duchy) there is consistent feedback that they know what they're talking about, listen and make changes. The convening power is especially important in something like Earthshot, for example.

I think the point still stands though that if they want to do more of the private, behind the scenes work, they should step back, take advantage of their immense wealth (which they would keep) and become private citizens. We don’t have royals to do a lot of behind the scenes work. The point of a royal family is to be public facing.

BemusedAmerican · 20/08/2025 17:18

jumpingthehighjump · 20/08/2025 16:53

BTW, are the Welsh or the Cornish upset that William didn't attend VJ ceremonies in their country or county?

Do you honestly honestly think they could have voiced any upset?

Yes, I do. Social media, YouTube, letters to local papers, emails to KP. They could start a Mumsnet thread called I'm Welsh and I'm pissed at the POW.

TheignT · 20/08/2025 17:19

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 17:13

Catherine has been cancer free since January.

You have no more idea than I do about the ongoing state of her health, she had surgery, the psychological damage fearing she might not live to see her children grow up. It seems incredibly nasty to begrudge the woman all the time she needs to heal and the time for both parents to have with their children after such a trying time.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 17:20

TheignT · 20/08/2025 17:19

You have no more idea than I do about the ongoing state of her health, she had surgery, the psychological damage fearing she might not live to see her children grow up. It seems incredibly nasty to begrudge the woman all the time she needs to heal and the time for both parents to have with their children after such a trying time.

Then, again.

if she wants to recover in private she should step back entirely, stop accepting the jobs she likes, and take a pay cut. Like anyone else would have to.

jumpingthehighjump · 20/08/2025 17:21

BemusedAmerican · 20/08/2025 17:18

Yes, I do. Social media, YouTube, letters to local papers, emails to KP. They could start a Mumsnet thread called I'm Welsh and I'm pissed at the POW.

As if!

They have more decorum

Alltheyellowbirds · 20/08/2025 17:22

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 16:34

It’s quite clear that he has no intention of being the hard working monarch his grandmother was and his father is choosing to be.

While he was prince of wales, between 2002 & 2022 Charles averaged between 500 and 600 engagements a year, including foreign tours.

as king he’s averaged between 200 and 250 a year. While undergoing cancer treatment.

meanwhile, between 2005 and 2011, William averages between 50 to 70.

from 2011 to 2022 he averaged between 100 and 120. Since the queen died he’s averaged between 120 and 150.

As Duchess of Cambridge, Kate averaged between 20 to 30. As princess of wales, she averaged 25 to 35. Compared to Camilla (150-200 as Duchess of Cornwall, 200 as queen consort), she falls very short.

they just don’t intend to work like the previous generations did and it’ll be very interesting to see how that progresses for them.

Those are very interesting stats.

The King has always worked hard, as did the late Queen, and as do Princess Anne, Edward and Sophie. I have felt for a while that William and Kate don’t seem to be as active but seeing it in black and white is quite striking.

No denying they’ve been through the wringer recently, and I really feel for William losing his grandparents then having both this wife and father diagnosed with cancer at the same time. For someone who lost his mum so young it must be particularly challenging and all in just a supremely shitty time.

That said, they do have a job, and the duties that go with their position and it’s odd they would be allowed to take such a back seat for so long - which leads me to think it has been decided that William might become King sooner than expected and they’ve been given permission to enjoy some time off while they can.

stillavid · 20/08/2025 17:22

Sadly cancer free after finishing chemo last year doesn't mean it has gone forever. I think a lot of us will know people of similar ages to Kate who went through something similar and the outcome wasn't great.

Also the whole - William didn't work as hard - he isn't going to do loads of engagements - he won't be opening new sewage works as clearly doesn't want to go down that route.

I suspect he would like to say how things will change with him but obviously can't whilst Charles is still in charge. Is a bit of a tricksy situation.

BemusedAmerican · 20/08/2025 17:22

So not calling your RF to account is called decorum? Not much shown on this thread using that definition. 😁

TheignT · 20/08/2025 17:23

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 17:20

Then, again.

if she wants to recover in private she should step back entirely, stop accepting the jobs she likes, and take a pay cut. Like anyone else would have to.

Why should she? Because you say so? I'm quite happy for her to take on less while she feels the need. I don't think you are the final arbiter of what is right.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 17:23

Alltheyellowbirds · 20/08/2025 17:22

Those are very interesting stats.

The King has always worked hard, as did the late Queen, and as do Princess Anne, Edward and Sophie. I have felt for a while that William and Kate don’t seem to be as active but seeing it in black and white is quite striking.

No denying they’ve been through the wringer recently, and I really feel for William losing his grandparents then having both this wife and father diagnosed with cancer at the same time. For someone who lost his mum so young it must be particularly challenging and all in just a supremely shitty time.

That said, they do have a job, and the duties that go with their position and it’s odd they would be allowed to take such a back seat for so long - which leads me to think it has been decided that William might become King sooner than expected and they’ve been given permission to enjoy some time off while they can.

He has always taken a back seat.

same as Harry, he averaged about 120-150 a year, but he was obviously the “spare” so not quite as much for him to be doing.

I don’t know how he’s gotten away with it for so long.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 17:24

TheignT · 20/08/2025 17:23

Why should she? Because you say so? I'm quite happy for her to take on less while she feels the need. I don't think you are the final arbiter of what is right.

Because she is a public servant at the end of the day and she is making a mockery of the royal family.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 20/08/2025 17:24

TheignT · 20/08/2025 17:19

You have no more idea than I do about the ongoing state of her health, she had surgery, the psychological damage fearing she might not live to see her children grow up. It seems incredibly nasty to begrudge the woman all the time she needs to heal and the time for both parents to have with their children after such a trying time.

Not many people have that luxury though, it’s back to work and no holidays because money is tight after being on SSP etc.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 17:24

jumpingthehighjump · 20/08/2025 17:21

As if!

They have more decorum

I’d start it.

i was born in wales. My family are Welsh. I’m bloody disgusted that they can’t be bothered to turn up for those who fought for our freedom.

BemusedAmerican · 20/08/2025 17:25

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 17:24

Because she is a public servant at the end of the day and she is making a mockery of the royal family.

No, she's not. She's done what was expected of her and shown grace in the face of a tremendous amount of abuse.

Linenpickle · 20/08/2025 17:26

Maybe Catherine or Charles have had a negative update on their cancer diagnoses….

MissFenellaPrism · 20/08/2025 17:26

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 17:10

Exactly.

They had Kate’s mum move in, a night nurse, and a nanny from 8 months old. That nanny has stayed and the night nurse was hired for each baby after. That’s not the same as most people and I think that’s very difficult to relate to.

How do you know this? Genuine question. They always seem so private.

TheignT · 20/08/2025 17:26

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 17:24

Because she is a public servant at the end of the day and she is making a mockery of the royal family.

You think she's making a mockery of the royal family. I know it must be shocking to you but not everyone agrees with you. Lots of people think it is good that she has time to recover and spend time with her children.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 17:27

BemusedAmerican · 20/08/2025 17:25

No, she's not. She's done what was expected of her and shown grace in the face of a tremendous amount of abuse.

She’s quietly quit her job.

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