Natasha Archer’s Instagram Following

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I’m somewhat fascinated by the instagram following of Kate’s former stylist and personal assistant of 15 years.

Understandable to monitor fashion blogs like whatmeghanwore but what’s the interest in Heather Dorak or Daniel Martin?

She even followed Meghan and asever before hastily unfollowing - why hide now?

Perhaps part of her new luxury fashion consultancy is keeping tabs on in-laws friends and associates.

Surely this is exactly why Meghan will never come back - she sees the PoW as competition and she can’t compete with that level of affection and respect.

Only if they also take a deep dive into places like Saint Meghan Markle, E D-List Royals, The Sun, or Meghan Snark. There’s enough material there for a full psychological case study, plenty of sociopathic behavior on display.

Absolutely, although I don't think any of those places have a shit stirrer like 'Kaiser' acting as ringmaster. There's something very, very wrong with that individual.

I think its overall in the same level. Places like The sun, dailymail etc take the prize on stirring hate for Catherine, camilla, Meghan etc... And fueling the hate. Good pitch for Tatler.

Catching up, this thread has been exhausting to read. If the quality of pro Meghan posts here is anything to go by, she has no hope of ever restoring any kind of credibility. I hope this new campaign isn’t costing them too much money.

I just think maybe she’s always followed them and didn’t want to be small minded enough to unfollow them? Surely that would’ve been a statement as well. She can’t win.

There really is! Well - the name tells you something…

I only started looking at Celebitchy over the last year when it was mentioned as a hang-out of the SS, but someone on here with a longer acquaintance said that even before any trouble became apparent with H and M, Kaiser was vehemently anti-Kate.

That’s just so weird, to me. I can imagine people who are critical of the monarchy having no interest in her, or rolling their eyes at the publicity she attracts, but to feel that kind of dislike towards what was then a young woman learning her job and basically not offending anyone speaks of a warped mind.

Celebitchy is not only anti-RF and vicious to Catherine and William. It’s very anti-British in a way that would justify accusations of racism…except, of course, they believe that the UK is the most racist country in the world. They are a scary lot and I hope they’re a very small minority within the US.

She’s indefensible now in the light of evidence over the last few years.

Her sensible supporters have slunk away, one by one.

The die-hards are left floundering and desperately grasping at straws.

The H & M threads have always been robust, but they weren’t toxic as they are currently becoming. And I notice one or two posters are desperately trying to reignite the race issue.

They have always been toxic. They will continue to be toxic. It won't stop.

Admittedly I dont really follow this circus, but as she was Kates stylist for a long time is there any chance she did know Meghan? Its only speculation that there was a huge falling out with everyone taking sides and at war with eachother- no one actually knows so I dont get the big deal really?

Define always @Spectre8 . I can remember a time when they weren’t. I don’t remember you from those threads.

The high road of toxicity on a thread that blames a woman for the sexual harassment that happened to her is a height that most regulars on this board have never reached.

This isn’t about stirring up old drama — these issues have been there all along, just ignored until now. Calling criticism of Kate or the monarchy toxicity or anti-British is a weak move to shut down real talk, especially when it’s about double standards and racism.

People can’t just erase all the early hate Meghan faced and act like it was made up. And the stylist situation? If Meghan friend had been quietly following all of Kate’s close friends and contacts without any return, people would be calling it creepy. No sugarcoating it.

People can’t just erase all the early hate Meghan faced and act like it was made up.

Your post above neatly illustrates one of the inconvenient truths that posters who adopt this line seem to want to ignore.

Some of the “early hate” you claim Meghan faced was exactly the same as the criticism that all members of the royal family face, because they are either born into, or willingly join, an institution that for many is seen as indivisbly representative of privilege, colonialism, racism, elistism, nepotism,and unwarranted power and influence. They all receive a lot of criticism (on this board and elsewhere) that is often dehumanising and unpleasant simply because of this fact.

As a mature women making a conscious choice to marry into the royal family, for a certain sector of the population Meghan was becoming “one of them” and so was therefore subject to exactly the same criticism as Charles, Camilla, William, Kate etc. Why would she be any different?

To another sector of the population Meghan was a welcome addition to the Royal Family - a of breath fresh air, and educated women of colour who could use her plate for for real good. There are also bound to be people who fell into the middle - there always are. Some who were unbothered, some who were bothered by Meghan’s nationality, or mixed race status - hopefully the latter were a minority, but it’s foolish to pretend they don’t exits in any society. They were the only people criticising her, however.

I’ve never understood why people think Meghan should have been immune to criticism for joining the royal family? If the Not my King crowd had their yellow placards organised back in 2018 you can bet your bottom dollar they would have been on the Long Walk at Windsor booing Meghan and Harry. Amongst the vast crowd of wellwishers genuinely delighted for the couple and their wedding, of course…

@Trutherwoke

If the Duchess of Sussex's PA and personal stylist had been following the Princess of Wales' stylist and friends' public Instagram accounts it would not be remotely creepy.

Blaming a young woman in her 20s for upskirting, a sexual offence which is now punishable by a prison sentence in the UK, is obnoxious and not something I would personally wish to be associated with - you may differ.

Sorry, too late to edit, but just noticed a typo above: This should say”

They weren’t the only people criticising her, however.

It doesn’t sound as though you’ve followed the flow of the discussion on this thread, so I find it difficult to respond to your points since - well, we’ve gone over some of the things you hint at.

To return to the goady, stirring point raised in the OP, and to repeat myself for the nth time:

No, nothing Catherine’s long-serving, loyal former stylist has done strikes me as odd at all. It doesn’t strike many pps here as odd either…but a few axe-grinding Sussex die-hards are desperate to tell us it’s sinister in some way.

Sounds to me that this woman was doing due diligence in monitoring Meghan’s clothing choices since a common jibe from the SS is that Catherine copies her.

Massive sigh. I ask again: why would the well-loved woman who will one day be Queen of the UK wish to emulate the style of someone who has led a campaign of persecution against her and who is now such a long way down the food chain from her as to be basically cat-meat?

I have not yet had an answer to this question which I’ve now posted about 4 times (sincere apologies to other pps who ARE following the thread).

Still waiting for a single example of Catherine copying Meghan. You can say it all you want, squaddies, but you can't seem to prove it.

This is exactly what I mean. By “real talk” you mean your particular agenda. Start your own thread if you want to talk about racism.

Ah, but that would involve some research, checking dates etc and presenting an argued case.

I think I just saw a bit of tumbleweed roll across the floor…

I think there are a few outfits that Kate wore which looked very similar to something Meghan had worn - I do think Kate started to relax her style and not be so bound by the older royals views on style protocol when she saw that Meghan was being allowed to. For example wearing more trouser suits and wearing more black, which we'd always been told was a no no for royals apart from mourning and the Remembrance Day events.

The problem for the Sussex Squad is that for every one time you can point out Kate 'copying' Meghan there are ten times you can see Meghan 'copying' Kate.

And my view is that it's not copying - it's just fashion is cyclical and nothing is very new.

The unfortunate thing for Meghan is that Kate had 8 years of royal engagements before Meghan met Harry so she's pretty much worn every colour in every style there is so it's very easy to find matches.

Can you point to an example though @wordler . People keep saying it's happened but don't give any examples.

Catherine's role in the RF evolved in the very, very short time Meghan was in the royal fold. She was pregnant for a large chunk of that time. She was also went from junior marry-in learning the ropes to Princess of Wales/Queen in waiting, and a much more senior, self confident role, outside the styling rules of the late Queen Elizabeth. I don't think her fashion changes had anything to do with Meghan, more to do with her becoming her own woman though seniority.

Wasn’t the trouser suit wearing change because the late Queen didn’t approve? So the fact that Catherine now sometimes wears trouser suits is nothing to do with following Meghan, but just that the late Queen is no longer here to disapprove?

Exactly!