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The royal family

Rebrand, Restructure, Harry and Meghan 2025 version

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Thedom · 25/05/2025 08:15

The Era of Joy didn't last long.

This is going to be interesting, it's going to be a full on PR onslaught for the next few months, and then we will have Harry launching his very own 'commercial project'.

Clearly an article straight from the Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, giving an exclusive to the DM.

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RandyRedHumpback · 25/05/2025 17:00

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 16:57

Oh. Tedious. It's not the ludicrous surrogacy story again, is it? We have debunked that many times.

No, it's saying Flamingo Estate is collaborating with Highgrove Estate. One of those AI voiced channels that pushes rubbish.

jeffgoldblum · 25/05/2025 17:01

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 16:57

Oh. Tedious. It's not the ludicrous surrogacy story again, is it? We have debunked that many times.

No I believe this one is implying that flamingo estate having visited high grove are doing it on purpose to diss Meghan !
more of the “shade “ nonsense!

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 17:01

RandyRedHumpback · 25/05/2025 17:00

No, it's saying Flamingo Estate is collaborating with Highgrove Estate. One of those AI voiced channels that pushes rubbish.

Ok. Thanks for saving me the bother!

jeffgoldblum · 25/05/2025 17:01

RandyRedHumpback · 25/05/2025 17:00

No, it's saying Flamingo Estate is collaborating with Highgrove Estate. One of those AI voiced channels that pushes rubbish.

Cross post! 🤣

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 17:05

Honest to god. As if the Highgrove Estate would do that!

Janiie · 25/05/2025 17:07

Thedom · 25/05/2025 09:11

Looking at the photos of their employees on 'six figures' , the thing that jumps out is there is not much diversity there at all, pretty much all caucasian, no black employees in their top team. There are so many rumours about Meghan being racist, and time and time again you see the evidence as to why people think that.

I don't understand how she and Harry are held up as anti-racist icons by their superfans.

Exactly.

I wonder if that actress <I forget her name> who sneered that the Royal balcony was 'very white' might make the same observation here..

What a pair of fools they are. 'Do as we say not as we do' 🙄.

DeSoleil · 25/05/2025 17:08

It’s a spoof on them, not to be taken seriously! If you really believe it’s fact you need to come off the internet! 🙄

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 17:10

Janiie · 25/05/2025 17:07

Exactly.

I wonder if that actress <I forget her name> who sneered that the Royal balcony was 'very white' might make the same observation here..

What a pair of fools they are. 'Do as we say not as we do' 🙄.

Oh yes! It's all a one way street, isn't it? Harry and Meghan can criticise but they're far worse in terms of employment than Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace in this instance!

jeffgoldblum · 25/05/2025 17:24

DeSoleil · 25/05/2025 17:08

It’s a spoof on them, not to be taken seriously! If you really believe it’s fact you need to come off the internet! 🙄

Obviously we don’t believe it’s fact !
I spend time on Reddit occasionally too! But let’s not pretend that the video isn’t mean spirited gossip about Meghan !
and yes it is speculation to imply flamingo estate did this to “shade” Meghan.

we all saw the “shade” GP was apparently throwing at Meghan!
I said at the time it was probably bollocks !
and then what happened? 🙄

IcedPurple · 25/05/2025 17:30

jeffgoldblum · 25/05/2025 17:24

Obviously we don’t believe it’s fact !
I spend time on Reddit occasionally too! But let’s not pretend that the video isn’t mean spirited gossip about Meghan !
and yes it is speculation to imply flamingo estate did this to “shade” Meghan.

we all saw the “shade” GP was apparently throwing at Meghan!
I said at the time it was probably bollocks !
and then what happened? 🙄

I think all this 'shade' talk vastly overestimates the interest most people - including Harry's family - have in Meghan.

She's frankly not important or relevant enough for folks to bother 'throwing shade' at her.

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 17:31

IcedPurple · 25/05/2025 17:30

I think all this 'shade' talk vastly overestimates the interest most people - including Harry's family - have in Meghan.

She's frankly not important or relevant enough for folks to bother 'throwing shade' at her.

Quite. She's probably barely across their radar now.

jeffgoldblum · 25/05/2025 17:33

IcedPurple · 25/05/2025 17:30

I think all this 'shade' talk vastly overestimates the interest most people - including Harry's family - have in Meghan.

She's frankly not important or relevant enough for folks to bother 'throwing shade' at her.

Well quite!
I also find all these “ nod “ comments irritating too!
but I have been told I’m a miserable bugger so 🤷‍♀️

GreenApplesRedApplesYellowApples · 25/05/2025 17:37

Mylovelygreendress · 25/05/2025 09:19

I shudder to think what their wages bill is . I think it was estimated that their security alone cost about $ 4 million a year .

That's a huge amount! Is that a real figure? How can they manage that?

Spectre8 · 25/05/2025 18:08

Vespanest · 25/05/2025 16:14

They would have had so much more credibility if they had stop the competitive nature especially with William and Catherine. There was absolutely no need for Archewell, that could have come later, the same for the royal trips, short term gains only. Their selling point should have been glamour and mystery and not warts and all "truth" telling. Meghan left the uk with a prince who has rapidly become a frog.

The comparisons to w&k ergo this competition between them is stirred up by papers and ppl posts on sm sites. That's my opinion. The papers have always been comparing them for years 🙄 it's always been like that pitting people against each other. It's nothing new for the media. They were doing to between w&h before their wives came into the picture.

I find it quite tedious to see, oh look another article pitting them against each other ...like we still fall for that bs...I guess some people do. Soon we will see it happening with the children...

JSMill · 25/05/2025 18:28

jeffgoldblum · 25/05/2025 17:33

Well quite!
I also find all these “ nod “ comments irritating too!
but I have been told I’m a miserable bugger so 🤷‍♀️

Omg I hate that ‘nod’ shit. Fashion goes in cycles. Just because I am wearing something that looks a bit like something my DM wore in the 60s doesn’t mean that’s what I had in mind. It’s just a coincidence!!

jeffgoldblum · 25/05/2025 18:31

JSMill · 25/05/2025 18:28

Omg I hate that ‘nod’ shit. Fashion goes in cycles. Just because I am wearing something that looks a bit like something my DM wore in the 60s doesn’t mean that’s what I had in mind. It’s just a coincidence!!

Exactly!
fashion has always gone in circles!
and sometimes clothes are just clothes! , not sending secret messages!
( unless it’s a t shirt with a big slogan of course! 🤣)

Spectre8 · 25/05/2025 18:37

jeffgoldblum · 25/05/2025 17:24

Obviously we don’t believe it’s fact !
I spend time on Reddit occasionally too! But let’s not pretend that the video isn’t mean spirited gossip about Meghan !
and yes it is speculation to imply flamingo estate did this to “shade” Meghan.

we all saw the “shade” GP was apparently throwing at Meghan!
I said at the time it was probably bollocks !
and then what happened? 🙄

Spoken like a meghan fan 🤭😜

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 18:38

Spectre8 · 25/05/2025 18:37

Spoken like a meghan fan 🤭😜

Or just a reasonable person who considers and reflects?

RandyRedHumpback · 25/05/2025 18:45

Spectre8 · 25/05/2025 18:37

Spoken like a meghan fan 🤭😜

Spoken like the majority of posters who provide fair comment when it is due, reasoned commentary and responses where appropriate, call out bullshit when it happens, and have a good sense of the back and forth humour that makes these threads fun - and that doesn't tip into nasty, emoji ridden, random side swipes at other posters for no reason whatsoever.

MrsLeonFarrell · 25/05/2025 18:46

If service is the cornerstone of who Harry is, at this point he is probably suffering from subsidence.

Once again, he needs to pick a lane. Royal or celebrity. He can't do both. They can employ as many people as they want to but until they produce something that catches the attention for more than 24 hours it's going to be another rebrand that goes no where.

And thanks to@jeffgoldblumwho made me spit out my tea with the Rank comment.

GreenApplesRedApplesYellowApples · 25/05/2025 18:46

Thedom · 25/05/2025 09:38

Exactly, they are the problem, not their staff, not their structure, it is their personalities and wild promotion of themselves which has destroyed their brand.

Ashley, who was driven to a mental health facility, and her new PR company are clearly ditched, despite all the protests to the contrary at the time. What about WME, no mention of their agents in this.

I think making this big announcement about a shake up in their staff and structure, undermines them even more, it proves they have been unsuccessful, it proves all the previous shake-ups, and hiring and firing didn't work despite all the protests everything was hunky dory..

Now they are copying the RF structure, the one they desperately needed to get away from because it was too old fashioned and inflexible. There was a line in one of those articles that if Camilla could rehabilitate her public image then Harry could too, but it took Camilla 30 years or so and the men in grey (who H&M don't rate) to do it along with being a big part of the RF.

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Camilla also did not set out to purposefully denigrate the position to which she hoped to one day rise.

That is the key difference.

Harry and Meghan made the extraordinarily foolish decision to go around telling everyone that being Royal was really not all it was cracked up to be, that a life of Royal privilege was undesirable, nothing special, rather plebian. That being an heir to the throne of England was in fact, a disabling hindrance in life, a cause indeed of suffering. They spent a great deal of effort metaphorically disrobing themselves in public until like the boy in the Emperor's New Clothes, everyone could see they were naked.

Why didn't it occur to them that their major advantage to any future ventures, to their social and networking currency was their Royal mystique?

It's just plain stupid to try and sell bananas to the public whilst simultaneously saying that bananas suck! Same with your Royal status.

That this didn't occur to them a very long time ago when they decided to take the 'reveal the dirty laundry for cash' route is odd. That was always going to be a short term flash sale.

Now they gave realised that nobody wants to buy that anymore and they need to build back that Royal glamour.

But the spell has broken for them.

Camilla on the other hand could be rehabilitated because she still supported the idea of Royalty, allowing the Royal PR team to retrospectively create a narrative of the greatest love story ever told between a future King and his prior preferred, but lost bride. It has worked.

At this point Prince Andrew has more realistic prospects of rehabilitation in the UK with Virginia Guiffre's unfortunate demise than H & M

But Americans are less unfavourable towards them. It's possible a rebrand may have more traction there..

MayaKovskaya · 25/05/2025 18:47

RandyRedHumpback · 25/05/2025 18:45

Spoken like the majority of posters who provide fair comment when it is due, reasoned commentary and responses where appropriate, call out bullshit when it happens, and have a good sense of the back and forth humour that makes these threads fun - and that doesn't tip into nasty, emoji ridden, random side swipes at other posters for no reason whatsoever.

👏

MrsLeonFarrell · 25/05/2025 18:49

GreenApplesRedApplesYellowApples · 25/05/2025 18:46

Camilla also did not set out to purposefully denigrate the position to which she hoped to one day rise.

That is the key difference.

Harry and Meghan made the extraordinarily foolish decision to go around telling everyone that being Royal was really not all it was cracked up to be, that a life of Royal privilege was undesirable, nothing special, rather plebian. That being an heir to the throne of England was in fact, a disabling hindrance in life, a cause indeed of suffering. They spent a great deal of effort metaphorically disrobing themselves in public until like the boy in the Emperor's New Clothes, everyone could see they were naked.

Why didn't it occur to them that their major advantage to any future ventures, to their social and networking currency was their Royal mystique?

It's just plain stupid to try and sell bananas to the public whilst simultaneously saying that bananas suck! Same with your Royal status.

That this didn't occur to them a very long time ago when they decided to take the 'reveal the dirty laundry for cash' route is odd. That was always going to be a short term flash sale.

Now they gave realised that nobody wants to buy that anymore and they need to build back that Royal glamour.

But the spell has broken for them.

Camilla on the other hand could be rehabilitated because she still supported the idea of Royalty, allowing the Royal PR team to retrospectively create a narrative of the greatest love story ever told between a future King and his prior preferred, but lost bride. It has worked.

At this point Prince Andrew has more realistic prospects of rehabilitation in the UK with Virginia Guiffre's unfortunate demise than H & M

But Americans are less unfavourable towards them. It's possible a rebrand may have more traction there..

They made the mistake of believing that the attention was for them personally rather than for who they represented as working royals. It's understandable as Harry had never known life outside the Royal family but if they want to be successful they need to come to terms with the fact that they don't have that royal mystique anymore.

MrsLeonFarrell · 25/05/2025 18:51

Whenever I go to this section I always see adverts for Elizabeth Arden.

That's either clever advertising or top trolling.

If only Harry and Meghan could harness a bit of that.

RandyRedHumpback · 25/05/2025 18:53

Me too @MrsLeonFarrell - 8 Hour Cream is a regular one!

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