Rebrand, Restructure, Harry and Meghan 2025 version

[Thedom]

The Era of Joy didn't last long.

This is going to be interesting, it's going to be a full on PR onslaught for the next few months, and then we will have Harry launching his very own 'commercial project'.

Clearly an article straight from the Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, giving an exclusive to the DM.

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Yes, yes, you will all end up burned on a stake, you mad witches, we're watching you! Only one person is rational on this thread, just call him Hopkins.

What's a 'self soothing lies aspect' when it's at home?

Is it what someone does when it finally dawns on them that despite all their valiant efforts, they didn't even get a jar of jam spread?

Look it up, I didn’t write the papers, but they seem easily accessible if you’re interested in reading more.

But that's what she's trying to do ... she's using them as weapons against the family, 'don't do as I ask and you won't see our children' little peaks of the 'kids' trying to elevate herself because let's face it nothing else has worked to elevate her!

@MauiMellow - self soothing lies - literally everything H&M say and write 🤪

Out of interest, I wonder if any academic papers have been written about the online behaviour of suggesting that other participants in a discussion might be being studied for research purposes, and representing yourself as having some kind of (pseudo)scientific interest in the dynamics of it? 🤔 I must look it up, when I can be bothered. I imagine it's fascinating.

To keep on topic, I also wonder how long it'll take to get the As Ever shop back in stock, now someone has actually been contracted to do just that.

I'm not interested in tedious online pop 'psychology' at all, but maybe these 'papers' say something about the coping mechanisms employed when the fans who are not fans discovered that the 'jam' is actually a spread? And they're not getting any?

The issue of featuring the kids is in some ways a tricky one. Them being able to live normally, go out and about places and be part of family activities, on one side versus the wish for privacy on the other. There are plenty of celebrities who manage to achieve this privacy for their kids.

I don't think it's 'tricky'. As you say plenty of celebrities, including those way more famous than these two, manage to keep their children completely private without being overly protective. That's what Meghan and Harry had done until just a few months ago. The days when 'paps' were hanging around waiting to snatch a shot of a celeb kid are long gone.

I actually used to respect them for wanting privacy for their kids and not wanting them to grow up in the royal fish bowl. Now she’s just using them to merch her crap. She does that annoying thing of posting photos out of focus or the back of their heads. No one wants to see the back of heads. Either show them properly or not at all. She doesn’t NEED to feature her kids. It’s clear she’s doing it for the likes but it just makes her look desperate and inauthentic.

Eugenie does it too and it’s infuriating. I don’t care that much about your kids that I’m happy to see the back of their head and nothing else. Zara seems the only one besides the Wales’ with a sensible head on her shoulders.

Controversial or not ?
im honestly not interested in seeing any of the children.

No.

😂😂
In a nutshell!

I would agree with this. No coy sharing of an arm or a leg, Zara's children go to the horse trials or wherever and you see them with their Dad or Grandma, running around, having an ice cream or whatever. A normal, relaxed childhood.
Not hours of getting the right pose at the right angle for the SM "look".

This. It's just a lie that the paps are out for them. When they were living in the UK, or returning for a visit, there was not one pap shot of Harry, Meghan or their children. Funny that.

I was never under the impression that H&M cared for their kids' privacy. After all they happily sold images of A in a bath to Netflix to be broadcast to all and sundry.

SOLD

And that is the operative word. It is monetisation of children as props in a brand. The "sharenting" trend has been over for celebs since 2019 when Apple Martin told off her mum, Gwyneth Paltrow, for sharing a photo without permission at the age of 14.

14 turning 15 is the typical age for freshman (first) year in high school in USA. And high schoolers are very very sensitive to comments from their peers and do NOT appreciate oversharing by parents. In addition to "todgergate" in Spare, M's Instagram sharenting is giving A&L's peers plenty more to comment about.

Apple Martin: Teen tells off her mum, Gwyneth Paltrow, for sharing photo without permission

It was always going to happen, it was as just a matter of when. The pair of them would sell anything to anyone if it suited their ends. I don’t think they have a shred of morality when it comes down to it .

There used to be M and H fans who sneered about the Wales DC being “ trotted out” for PR . They seem awfully quiet now that their idols are “ trotting out” their DC for PR.

I agree with whichever poster said that Harry will come alone for Charles's funeral (hopefully not for a good while yet) and none of them will come for William's coronation.

The children might be old enough to have their own opinions by then. If they were 12 and 14, say, or older, and were invited and wanted to go, would it be right to prevent them? Imagine Spare: The Next Generation. 'I wasn't allowed to go to my uncle's coronation ' is a slightly bigger deal than 'I only got one sausage'.

Mumsnet allowed a whole thread doing exactly that.

I think that would pose an issue for the Sussex parents, for sure, but I suspect William will not invite any of them which will remove it. They may still complain about that of course (surprising, eh? 🤔)

I'm not quiet. I don't know what they look like at all. They carefully curate pictures so we don't see all of them and I think that's good.

Given they have been accused of not having children, having surrogates, the children are just actors etc, I would do exactly what they are doing to prove I actually do have children !

There's no need to "prove" they have children by promotion on SM. We've seen Archie, his christening, with Archbishop Tutu, in the bath in Netflix, we've seen Lilibet also on Netflix, her 1st birthday party, an official picture released when she turned 1. This all shows their existence. As if it would be necessary to pander to conspiracy theorists on the internet.

I'm just saving I think they are doing it the right way. Just my opinion of course.

Are you serious?

You're saying that they are posting pics of the back of their children's heads to counter bizarre nonsense from a tiny number of online weirdos? Why pander to such people? Why would any reasonable person care what such nutters think?

And if you're going to go there, then a photo of a hand or back of head doesn't 'prove' anything, does it? Those backs of heads could belong to any random kid. If you're inclined to believe in such daft theories, nothing is going to dissuade you, so why bother trying?