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Conversation with John Bryan about Prince Andrew and underage girls

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Profhilodisaster · 08/05/2025 10:16

Has anyone else seen this , it looks like a secretly recorded conversation between John Bryan (was he the chap in Fergies toe sucking scandal ?) and a journalist.
x.com/okeefemedia/status/1920229717250019537?s=46&t=zeqvo7Iw1m8V4kXAX7nn1A

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CigarettesAndLoveBites · 08/05/2025 11:33

Yes he was... so, certainly close to the royal family!

Itsalwayspossible823 · 08/05/2025 11:35

Crikey. If it’s true.

I absolutely loathe PA but I think proof has to be a bit more concrete than someone who seems to be happy to run his mouth off in public. Was John Bryan aware he was being filmed?

JB could be an innocent party or he could have his own reasons for framing certain events like that. Who knows?

PA was beyond foolish to put himself in that situation. Initially I thought Epstein used him to threaten blackmail, but after the Virginia Giuffre case, and PA’s pay-off, and various verified facts, I believed her.

Given Epstein’s wide-ranging contacts, I’ve no doubt that the truth will come out eventually. Hopefully it emerges sooner rather than later, before these largely middle aged or approaching elderly male perpetrators die off, or become too infirm to face justice.

And it’s very important we know the truth about Prince Andrew too and how much the RF knew.

Profhilodisaster · 08/05/2025 13:56

I don't think he did know that he was being recorded.

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Itsalwayspossible823 · 08/05/2025 14:31

I found it surprising to hear a man like him talk so openly about “falling in love” with Fergie. That sounds a bit PR-ish to me.
But I don’t know anything about him tbh except for the then infamous headlines:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13710231/amp/Sarah-Ferguson-toe-sucking-John-Bryan-1992.html

However he also said he effectively lived with Fergie for four or five years and virtually raised Eugenie and Beatrice while PA was away at sea, so presumably that’s provable?

Also, do we know that the Twitter video itself is legitimate? And it’s source? It doesn’t look like AI to me but I don’t have a clue about any of it!

How Sarah Ferguson's 'toe sucking' was compared to Abdication Crisis

On August 9, 1992, Duchess of York flew by private jet to the French Riviera with her daughters and her 'financial adviser' John Bryan, writes ANDREW LOWNIE.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-13710231/amp/Sarah-Ferguson-toe-sucking-John-Bryan-1992.html

JADS · 08/05/2025 17:49

I remember the Toe Sucking drama. John Bryan has confirmed what I think everyone knew and that sadly Virginia Guiffre likely wasn't PA's only victim. He seems to be very entwined with the Yorks. He also gives me the creeps - the way he spoke about Beatrice and Eugenie made me shiver.

I wonder if he knows about any of the American men involved with Epstein. There is a whole can of worms that still hasn't been opened.

CathyorClaire · 08/05/2025 20:42

John Bryan looks and sounds a bit pissed there and I doubt an undercover video would stand up in as evidence in a court of law but...In vino veritas and all that.

I've always thought what's been exposed of Charmless and his activities is just the tip of the iceberg. I hope he's sweating today.

CathyorClaire · 08/05/2025 20:50

And it’s very important we know the truth about Prince Andrew too and how much the RF knew.

I've no doubt there's a dossier as long as an arm sealed in a vault somewhere. We know the Trade envoy records have been sealed until he and we are long gone.

I don't think the truth on that poster boy for a republic will come out until it's of purely academic interest to future historians.

GreenApplesRedApplesYellowApples · 08/05/2025 21:02

He seems drunk and a bit boastful. If there were other girls as he implies, surely they would have come forward when Giuffre did. There was, after all, money to be had with support in numbers.

As an aside, kudos to the Journalist doing the pretty dumb captivated girl ego-stroking act in a bid to keep him talking. 'Oh reeeaaallly? nooooo! I knooowwww! That was innsaaaaannneee👁️👄

Lol 😂

TheAutumnCrow · 08/05/2025 22:54

GreenApplesRedApplesYellowApples · 08/05/2025 21:02

He seems drunk and a bit boastful. If there were other girls as he implies, surely they would have come forward when Giuffre did. There was, after all, money to be had with support in numbers.

As an aside, kudos to the Journalist doing the pretty dumb captivated girl ego-stroking act in a bid to keep him talking. 'Oh reeeaaallly? nooooo! I knooowwww! That was innsaaaaannneee👁️👄

Lol 😂

Why would they come forward? They saw how Virginia Giuffre was treated.

She took her own life.

foreverblowingbubbless · 09/05/2025 01:27

He sounds like a real bawbag - the kind of man who revels in his own belief of his self importance.

BustingBaoBun · 09/05/2025 10:14

He's obviously pissed as a fart 🤣

However I found it quite funny especially the bit where he says he virtually brought up Bea and E, haha, I bet that went down like a cup of cold sick with the Yorks! Ditto Andrew's predilictions!
Was he really that friendly with Andrew and was the relationship with Sarah that long?!

He's just some bloke just sounding off!

GreenApplesRedApplesYellowApples · 09/05/2025 11:19

TheAutumnCrow · 08/05/2025 22:54

Why would they come forward? They saw how Virginia Giuffre was treated.

She took her own life.

Fair point.

Perhaps (if they exist) their sense of self-preservation was stronger. I'm a Tin Foil Hatter. I have a small margin of 'she could have been killed' she did say she would never take her own life and it didn't seem fitting with her persona. But who knows.

Regardless, it definitely sends a harmful message of 'don't even bother talking if you don't wanna end up the same way' I guess...

bluegreygreen · 09/05/2025 16:08

While not wanting to minimise Andrew's behaviour in any way, I am convinced that for many people in high places he is a useful scapegoat.

There are a lot of important men in business and politics who had dealings with Epstein and are quite happy to have the focus turned elsewhere.

Itsalwayspossible823 · 10/05/2025 09:39

Funny how this thread hasn’t attracted a lot of comment isn’t it, when RF threads are usually very active? 😀

soupyspoon · 10/05/2025 09:51

The sound doesnt seem to match the subtitles when he is asked about whether he is talking about the lying being about knowing or being friends with Epstein, or whether he means lying about underage girls. He seems to say 'no' but the subtitles dont show that and dont seem to match what he is saying

He's as pissed as a fart of course.

stillclueless · 10/05/2025 10:34

Itsalwayspossible823 · 10/05/2025 09:39

Funny how this thread hasn’t attracted a lot of comment isn’t it, when RF threads are usually very active? 😀

RF threads are only active if they are about H&M the rest of them can do no wrong according to the regulars on this board.

NewAgeNewMe · 10/05/2025 10:38

Bull. Andrew can do plenty wrong.

also if anyone is interested there is a channel 5 program tonight on Sarah Ferguson about where all the money has gone. Grifter as bad as her ex.

TheAutumnCrow · 10/05/2025 10:42

stillclueless · 10/05/2025 10:34

RF threads are only active if they are about H&M the rest of them can do no wrong according to the regulars on this board.

Andrew is a cunt.

I loathe the Yorks.

I am looking forward to Andrew Lownie’s book and the reviews. How many ways can I say that - is it required on every thread?

Nousernamesleftatall · 10/05/2025 10:52

Prince Andrew is a nonce.

King Charles was good pals with Jimmy Saville and he knew of his horrific crimes. The royals hate the general public.

Yet people still fawn over the parasites.

Nousernamesleftatall · 10/05/2025 10:55

Mountbatten was another one, Charles favourite uncle who used to rape boys.

NewAgeNewMe · 10/05/2025 11:01

Got dh to check and it’s followed by another on Andrew. So let’s see what comes out.

jeffgoldblum · 10/05/2025 11:17

Itsalwayspossible823 · 10/05/2025 09:39

Funny how this thread hasn’t attracted a lot of comment isn’t it, when RF threads are usually very active? 😀

I can tell you why if you really want to know?
that media link is not recognised here , it can’t be verified as real , so people are wary to comment on something that may be fake!

I could post a very interesting article that I’ve seen, it states Meghan met prince Andrew through Marcus Anderson’s association with Epstein, long before she met Harry !

I haven’t and won’t post this article as it’s a media I don’t know and it can’t be verified as real .

stillclueless · 10/05/2025 11:48

I don’t think verifying if an article is real stops posters commenting on them. Look at the Harry thread with the ring door bell is that verified as genuine? It’s not stopping the hundreds of comments in a matter of hours.

jeffgoldblum · 10/05/2025 11:52

stillclueless · 10/05/2025 11:48

I don’t think verifying if an article is real stops posters commenting on them. Look at the Harry thread with the ring door bell is that verified as genuine? It’s not stopping the hundreds of comments in a matter of hours.

It’s been printed in various U.K. papers, due to the fact they normally verify pictures with their lawyers to avoid lawsuits, many people would class that as proof that it’s real .

jeffgoldblum · 10/05/2025 12:04

I would further say , Harry and many high profile people have just been to court to sue the U.K. newspapers for gathering personal information illegally and using it.

wearing a wire or recording someone secretly, while they are intoxicated to get information is illegal in this country and completely the point of the lawsuits.

either people agree this is wrong or they don’t, you can’t pick and choose just because you like some people and not others.