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Harry's new interview 2

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Viviennemary · 03/05/2025 13:19

I just thought I would start second thread since I noticed the first one is full. It has certainly dominated media reporting. I saw a snippet on Sky news earlier. A document from Harry saying its a dereliction of duty to stop his security. Erm who just whizzed off to the USA and left all the duties behind. I havent watched the whole interview. I wonder if he'll appeal again.

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IsoldeWagner · 04/05/2025 08:19

Eggybreadwithnuts · 04/05/2025 08:04

Didnt he say he wasnt going to say who it was..."yet"?

Because he wants to prolong controversy. It's all for the headlines and what he can monetise.

Mylovelygreendress · 04/05/2025 08:20

IsoldeWagner · 04/05/2025 08:02

William doesn't sit on RAVEC. As far as I know, he doesn't have secret service or high level security expertise.
We have no idea what Harry meant, as per usual. However, @GiveMeSpanakopita 's point is spot on - he wants to be treated as a top royal, and he resents bitterly that he is not.

I know I sound like a broken record but I have always maintained that this is about Harry wanting exactly what William has and Meghan egging him on as she considers herself superior to Catherine.,
Great posts @GiveMeSpanakopita 👏

Profhilodisaster · 04/05/2025 08:20

Eggybreadwithnuts · 04/05/2025 08:04

Didnt he say he wasnt going to say who it was..."yet"?

I've just listened to it again and he didn't say that . The whole interview drips with disdain and resentment, he's so consumed with bitterness, he says he was made a private citizen by the RF , but it was his choice wasn't it?

Eggybreadwithnuts · 04/05/2025 08:25

Profhilodisaster · 04/05/2025 08:20

I've just listened to it again and he didn't say that . The whole interview drips with disdain and resentment, he's so consumed with bitterness, he says he was made a private citizen by the RF , but it was his choice wasn't it?

Apologises, but he definitely said "yet" about something when pressed by interviewer to name.

Giddykiddy · 04/05/2025 08:26

Aspreviously stated - he will receive protection when in the UK - he just needs to give notice. It's all bonkers - at present the only RF members receiving full time security are the senior full time working royals - Charles, Camilla, William, Kate and their children - the others, including Anne, Edward and Sophie only have security when on royal duties. None of the cousins have security provided by the government- the whole thing is astounding and self serving. Also as a PP stated he's made the situation 100% worse by highlighting the security gaps he perceives.
He's off the charts a CF

cheezncrackers · 04/05/2025 08:29

HiRen · 03/05/2025 14:57

He can’t appeal. He hasn’t been given leave to appeal. That’s why he’s writing to Yvette Cooper, appealing to Starmer and did the interview with the BBC’s uber-sycophantic “journalist”: his only recourse is a personal appeal, tugging on the public’s heartstrings, and bespoke intervention from one important sympathetic person (this is what his lawyers will have told him is his only remaining option). These have previously worked for him and his wife to get their way. It’s deeply cynical. He doesn’t have a sympathetic bone in his body for his family members or the British people. He just wants what he wants and is doing everything - making it his life’s work - to get it.

One of the few good things about dull Keir Starmer is that he's a lawyer through and through, so if the SC has spoken, which it has, he won't touch Harry's bleating requests with a barge pole. After all, this is a man who needed the SC to tell him what a woman is, despite being married to one!

As for Yvette Cooper, Starmer won't want her wasting her time. Labour is struggling with the rise of Reform and if they want to stay in power they really, really need to get a grip on migration, particularly of the illegal kind. If they can crack that nut, then they'll really take the wind out of Reform's sails. As Home Sec Yvette Cooper is a busy woman - she doesn't have time for the whining requests of members of the RF who left the country of their own accord, despite knowing that doing so would remove their Met police security.

Harry is a spoilt, entitled brat who is reaping what he's sown. If he and Meghan had just worked with the RF quietly behind the scenes to facilitate a low-key and phased exit from royal life, rather than ambushing them with an American PR company written statement about 'collaborating with the Queen' and continuing the royal life, with all its trappings, from abroad, they wouldn't be in this mess. They have no one to blame but themselves for their own stupidity and recklessness in throwing away the trappings of royalty - including security.

QueenOfHertz · 04/05/2025 08:31

The BBC interviewer didn’t need to challenge him IMO. She let him speak and he unraveled his own arguments on TV. Give him enough rope etc. She might also have suspected that if she did take him to task then he would mic drop and flounce out of the room.

Profhilodisaster · 04/05/2025 08:34

Profhilodisaster · 04/05/2025 08:20

I've just listened to it again and he didn't say that . The whole interview drips with disdain and resentment, he's so consumed with bitterness, he says he was made a private citizen by the RF , but it was his choice wasn't it?

Sorry , I've listened to a bit more and he says 'some people want history to repeat itself' , the interviewer asks if he knows the names of those people and he says he's not going to share at this point.

cheezncrackers · 04/05/2025 08:36

Profhilodisaster · 04/05/2025 08:34

Sorry , I've listened to a bit more and he says 'some people want history to repeat itself' , the interviewer asks if he knows the names of those people and he says he's not going to share at this point.

Yeah, he's basically doing exactly what he and Meghan did in the Oprah interview the racism thing. Except this time he's not accusing unnamed members of his family of racism, he's accusing them of wanting him, Meghan and their two DC to be murdered. TBH, I'm surprised that more media outlets haven't focused on that outrageous accusation.

Sunnyglowdays · 04/05/2025 08:37

Beesandhoney123 · 03/05/2025 15:23

How embarrassing for his dc when the get older and see the utter mess for themselves. Wondering why they were isolated from a royal upbringing for their own good, yet their dad speaks of nothing else and is bitter and resentful he can't turn back time.

H should have stayed in the army. Take away the royalty and Meg - wannabe actress - married an unemployed squaddie who lived off his nan, but future faked. They both did, to some extent.

Fast forward and Meg is putting on a brave face and doing influencer stuff, and at least lives in her homeland, and harry is still finding himself and has the time and money to concentrate on a court case in another country.

He is so angry and so boringly self absorbed.

I don’t think he could. He wasn’t clever enough to move up the ranks.

IsoldeWagner · 04/05/2025 08:38

QueenOfHertz · 04/05/2025 08:31

The BBC interviewer didn’t need to challenge him IMO. She let him speak and he unraveled his own arguments on TV. Give him enough rope etc. She might also have suspected that if she did take him to task then he would mic drop and flounce out of the room.

Good points. Like when Tom Bradby dared to challenge him about inconsistencies about alleged racism, he just got irritated and lied anyway.
Pointless.

Profhilodisaster · 04/05/2025 08:40

Eggybreadwithnuts · 04/05/2025 08:25

Apologises, but he definitely said "yet" about something when pressed by interviewer to name.

Edited

I stand corrected, he said he knew the names of people who want history to repeat itself but won't share at this point.

IsoldeWagner · 04/05/2025 08:43

Profhilodisaster · 04/05/2025 08:40

I stand corrected, he said he knew the names of people who want history to repeat itself but won't share at this point.

Of course not. He's got to wait for the highest bidder, in the meantime, let all the speculation damage as many people as possible.
What a nasty man.

JADS · 04/05/2025 08:44

QueenOfHertz · 04/05/2025 08:31

The BBC interviewer didn’t need to challenge him IMO. She let him speak and he unraveled his own arguments on TV. Give him enough rope etc. She might also have suspected that if she did take him to task then he would mic drop and flounce out of the room.

I agree with this.

BBC Radio 4's discussion however repeated his accusations without any critical analysis. That is a problem.

Heatherjayne1972 · 04/05/2025 08:55

If find it very interesting that he gives an interview to the BBC. In which he seems to come across as a petulant spoilt man sad lonely and very unhappy maybe even desperate to come home who simply can’t understand why his dad won’t speak to him - uh Harry you called them all racist, wrote a book and gave interviews which purposely put them in a bad light etc etc

all while at the same time his wife on the other side of the Atlantic is telling us how happy she is.

ThePoshUns · 04/05/2025 08:55

Thedom · 04/05/2025 05:48

The BBC have now admitted it was a biased and poor interview and ‘a lapse in their editorial standards’

which is what most posters said right from the outset.

Edited

That’s interesting. I’d so love to see him interviewed by a proper journalist who would challenge some of the rubbish he comes out with.

IsoldeWagner · 04/05/2025 08:56

ThePoshUns · 04/05/2025 08:55

That’s interesting. I’d so love to see him interviewed by a proper journalist who would challenge some of the rubbish he comes out with.

He would never face that kind of rigour.

Ohpleeeease · 04/05/2025 08:57

JADS · 04/05/2025 08:44

I agree with this.

BBC Radio 4's discussion however repeated his accusations without any critical analysis. That is a problem.

I also agree. The interview was intended to be a ten minute reaction piece and that’s what the interviewer prepared for. She did actually start with some testing questions - eg Why should the tax payer meet the cost of his security? She wouldn’t have known she had time to drill down for specifics.

What she did was let him run his mouth off and dig his own hole. He can’t claim he was misrepresented or edited, he delivered his carefully planned speech without interference or interruption. I thought she did well in the circumstances.

JSMill · 04/05/2025 09:02

Wes Streeting was asked just now by Trevor Phillips what he expected Yvette Cooper to do in response to the letter expected from H. WS was quite firm that it was an independent process and the government would leave it to Ravec. I would imagine he had anticipated and planned for this question so that is the official line of the government. I still can’t believe in the 21st century a member of the RF is trying to interfere in the decisions of government. QEII would be horrified.

ThePoshUns · 04/05/2025 09:09

Ohpleeeease · 04/05/2025 08:57

I also agree. The interview was intended to be a ten minute reaction piece and that’s what the interviewer prepared for. She did actually start with some testing questions - eg Why should the tax payer meet the cost of his security? She wouldn’t have known she had time to drill down for specifics.

What she did was let him run his mouth off and dig his own hole. He can’t claim he was misrepresented or edited, he delivered his carefully planned speech without interference or interruption. I thought she did well in the circumstances.

Yes in some ways it’s like interviewing a suspect who can’t keep their mouth shut and think they are clever enough to have a good cover story. Let them speak uninterrupted, then challenge their inconsistency when they finish. Sadly she didn’t get to the second bit.

IsoldeWagner · 04/05/2025 09:09

JSMill · 04/05/2025 09:02

Wes Streeting was asked just now by Trevor Phillips what he expected Yvette Cooper to do in response to the letter expected from H. WS was quite firm that it was an independent process and the government would leave it to Ravec. I would imagine he had anticipated and planned for this question so that is the official line of the government. I still can’t believe in the 21st century a member of the RF is trying to interfere in the decisions of government. QEII would be horrified.

Good point. Harry's sense of entitlement is staggering.

Thedom · 04/05/2025 09:14

Well QE11 did lobby in Harry’s favour by writing a letter of support for Harr ly to RAVEC, that evidence came out at one of the hearings, and he did get security just not the permanent armed security he expects

jeffgoldblum · 04/05/2025 09:19

Parsley1234 · 04/05/2025 06:55

@Somethingthecatdraggedin7 its true re him being pussy whipped he is
accept I’m wrong re Andrew’s service he’s still a duck though and was never as popular as Harry

Believe it or not , there was a time when Andrew was very popular!
more popular than Charles and considered the prize catch !
he was lauded as the ultimate handsome Prince Charming!!!

TammyJones · 04/05/2025 09:22

Words · 03/05/2025 13:59

I feel a tiny soupçon of pity for him as he is so obviously damaged and is systematically sabotaging any hope of reconciliation.

The other 99% of me sees a real hypocrite who has betrayed his family and cannot see the contradiction in his own arguments and for whom the fault always lies elsewhere.

Unbelievably vulgar to mention the King's health in the knowledge that such a statement would become instant global headline news. He lacks boundaries and is a loose cannon. A security threat, ironically.

I believe him when he says he misses England. I am sure he does. Had he married a well grounded sensible countrywoman he could be living a lovely life with his family on a small country estate now with people who would keep him stable, and his old friends from school and the army.

Instead he is trapped for life in bland, plastic California, with a partner who only exacerbates his faults.

Exactly this.

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