Harry's new interview 2

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I just thought I would start second thread since I noticed the first one is full. It has certainly dominated media reporting. I saw a snippet on Sky news earlier. A document from Harry saying its a dereliction of duty to stop his security. Erm who just whizzed off to the USA and left all the duties behind. I havent watched the whole interview. I wonder if he'll appeal again.

I agree completely

We constantly see "Surely the RF must act now", but what can they possibly do which would be more effective than what H&M are doing to themselves?

Tempting as it must be to step in there's a very strong case for letting the whole thing play out - and of course by staying "hands off" they'll avoid direct blame for whatever happens in future

The only thing so far in all of H&M's shenanigans that has brought a response from Buckingham Palace has been Harry's ranting interview after losing the RAVEC appeal.

The only reason for that response was his implication that King Charles would act unconstitutionally, which had to be refuted. If true, it would have brought Royal family, courts and government into disrepute.

Anything else he has said or done has been totally ignored.

Staying on the moral high ground does feel good. You're right about intervening when something concrete is at stake, as with the RAVEC issue. Presumably the possibility of Harry using his titles to fundraise for the Diana Awards is also a real issue.

Meghan is being sued apparently.
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Yes, and if memory serves even that contained "It's understood that the King ...", which (no doubt deliberately) created a distance between him and the current issues

I agree that the Diana Award thing looks questionable though, @IcedPurple, and since it's his elder brother Harry shares this with it'll be interesting to see if William makes any changes - especially since, at a previous event, he avoided being in the same room and his video piece was screened only after Harry had left

Those legal bills are adding up! This is going to be hard for to prove. She may just be a chancer. Whatever the truth, It's publicity M could do without.

It doesn't reflect well on the people running the Diana Awards that they didn't get sign-off from both brothers before launching the scheme.

Ain't that the truth, @IdaGlossop

And apologies, BTW, for linking my last post to IcedPueple when it should have been you

I agree with this. The minute you comment it becomes a 'slanging match' between to parties - currently it is one loon throwing rocks in one direction.

Their escalating antics to provoke a response will be their undoing.

They are unravelling - need to let that play out without inadvertently becoming associated or blamed for it.

The public can make their own minds up on the numerous and consistent actions, words and behaviours witnessed over the years.

Never wrestle with a pig.

I would expect checking important things with both brothers would be second nature. Obviously, I'm wrong.

No need to apologise @Puzzledandpissedoff. Thank-you though.

I can only envisage that the charity is making a move to the US market, or creating a US arm but I'm not sure if this will be profitable. It's not just placing William in an awkward position but also David Cameron. Who'd want to get involved in a charity take over, especially across continents.

Their escalating antics to provoke a response will be their undoing
They are unravelling - need to let that play out without inadvertently becoming associated or blamed for it

Exactly, @Bellsize

Though not a supporter of the monarchy I can still admire things being handled sensibly, and at least by not engaging the worst that can be said against the palace is "They should have done such-and-such"

Whereas anything they might have done would clearly never be enough for Harry and would simply give folk a stick to beat them with ... which given their focus on self preservation is unlikely to be allowed

I wonder if sorting the public liability insurance was done as ‘thoroughly’ as the trademark registering?

Why David Cameron @Vespanest?

He's a patron

Not just the trademark registering. Everything seems to have been done inefficiently - lumpy labelling, no restocking, products not available in time for Netflix show.

It's just a copy of the King's Trust isnt it?

the Diana Award is a non royal charity, the brothers are simply supporters, so you would hope that to sell exposure for the sum of 200k that there has been an agreement that a royal gala is backed by royalty. If it's Harry it opens the use of Royal, the possibility that this would be in the UK, could he risk attendance and would he be alone. A Harry royal gala in the UK or is this especially for the US market

Yes @Vespanest I did miss out on the money bit - what was I thinking 😂

It's all coming thick and fast - Harry and RAVEC , Meghan and jam and podcasts. The pair of them seem to outshadow each other endlessly and it all adds to this impression of what next ? What happened to that thing ? It adds to the " Jack of all trades" image. Harry seems to be absorbed 100% with the Royal thing whereas Meghan seems to be trying to promote their family life away from the RF. The two of them seem to be on different and conflicting paths. It's a confusing image.

Well, as we all know now - Harry & Meghan are the most Royal Royals ever in the history of the whole wide World.

NonRoyaller should be the name of their Palace in Montecito.

I struggle to see how this kind of behaviour will encourage the reconciliation with his father that Harry touts.

I think everyone except Harry can see that. To be honest I think he comprehensively cooked his goose with the character assassination of the Queen in Spare, I can’t see how he can possibly come back from that.

When I clicked on the link to the Diana charity, it was H’s fat face displayed. You would think it had nothing to do with William.
It’s interesting that they are aiming at the corporate market not trying to pick the pockets of wealthy people. My dh works in the corporate world and sometimes invests in charity gala dinners like this. I say invest because they expect a return because they need to prove the company is getting something out of it. The Princes Trust dinner is regarded as fairly prestigious and a good way of entertaining partners, particularly if they are coming from abroad. The Diana Award, fronted by Harry, will simply not be regarded in the same way. It would be a very tough job for someone to justifying spending $200k of your budget on it.

Well if it's only Harry , it's not very Royal is it? I think what HLMTQ asked of them (ie not using HRH at all / Royal status for commercial things ) is becoming very blurred now. So you could argue - Harry hosting a $ per plate charity do for a Royal gala keeps him in the spotlight and gives her , by association, publicity, whether she turns up or not. So he's the half in , she's the half out - maybe that's how they are trying to work it.

I have always been against them having their titles taken away from them because I think it would look petty ( even though , by goodness I would have been tempted - Good job I am not in my glorious reign) but I do think as they get less and less relevant the more they are pushing the boundaries of their "Royalness" and so maybe the time has come for a rethink. But not my decision - nor for the most part KC's.