Harry's new interview 2

[Viviennemary]

I just thought I would start second thread since I noticed the first one is full. It has certainly dominated media reporting. I saw a snippet on Sky news earlier. A document from Harry saying its a dereliction of duty to stop his security. Erm who just whizzed off to the USA and left all the duties behind. I havent watched the whole interview. I wonder if he'll appeal again.

Of course. Who knows what is genuine anymore.

Well she needs to start selling stuff !

This is true.
I think Harry’s friends are interesting. Charles Vivian just married Saweda Kamara, a US compliance director from Sierra Leone. Charles is involved with the African charity with Harry. Harry didn’t attend due to security risks despite him being in London for a court case .
Charles first wife was, like Meghan, an American whose first outing was to William and Kate’s wedding. She makes natural jewellery (bits of animals).

He also didn’t attend Jack Manns and the Duke of Westminsters recent weddings who are also his friends.
It seems his need for security would be largely driven by him wanting a public social life in the since he can apparently do private stuff in the uk without issue.

It really isn't. PM was an unbelievably selfish woman who was always off gallivanting here and there. And Viscount Linley was gay and extremely promiscuous. Neither of them was great parent material.

Do you mean the first Earl of Snowdon? Like most children of their ilk, David and Sarah were raised by nannies and went to boarding school. Different influences.

No, I think it was recorded in the early morning (Montecito time), because I saw the interview when it first came out, I just happened to have the TV on. BBC then spoke to Nada Tawfik live and she was wearing the same outfit she'd worn for the interview and it looked very much like she was being interviewed outside the property in Montecito where the interview had taken place.

No, I mean his father, Antony Armstrong Jones (aka Viscount Linley - the title that David has now inherited). AAJ was known to be a sex addict and he was either gay or bi (he married again to another woman after his divorce from Margaret).

Lord Vivian confirmed Harry was invited to the wedding. Harry was close enough to Vivian at one time to have been an usher at Vivian’s first wedding. Harry was in the UK at the time but didn’t attend.

Possibly he didn’t go to avoid drawing attention from the bride and groom. I have read this several times as reasons royals often don’t attend weddings.
Possibly he didn’t want to go as a single attendee and Meghan was in California.
Possibly there was one or more other attendees he didn’t want to see or knew it would be awkward to see and combined with Meghan not being there for support and not wanting to draw attention from the bride and groom he stayed away.

Or possibly it was to ‘prove’ his security was insufficient. Harry strikes me as someone who would cut his nose off to spite his face and not see his band of brothers to prove a point to KC and the world.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14585517/Prince-Harry-skipped-wedding-one-band-brothers.html

No. Anthony Armstrong Jones married Princess Margaret and was created the 1st Earl of Snowdon. His son David got the courtesy title Viscount Linley. On his father's death he inherited the Earldom of Snowdon. His son Charles is now Viscount Linley.
AAJ was never known as Viscount Linley.

With the peacock in the background? I saw her being interviewed too and was trying to work out if that was their house (I have never heard they had peacocks) or some locally available media suite / hotel room.

The BBC interview took place in a room identical to the one in which the CBS interview with H&M and the Parent Network took place last year. It's probably a media suite within a hotel; and unlikely to be their own house, considering how private they are about it.

No, it's a local mansion in Montecito that gets hired out for filming. And yes, it's where H&M were filmed for another news programme.

Okay, I may have got the titles wrong. But the pp I quoted about David Linley's 'rackety' parents, was talking about Princess Margaret and Antony Armstrong Jones, as was I.

Right. You can understand my confusion, because Linley is a completely different person.

Is it the same one they use for the kitchen in With Love, Meghan?

I have several colleagues who are ambitious and have a work ethic to match.

Some also manage to be lovely people and generous colleagues, on their way to promotion.

Unfortunately a couple of colleagues see 'getting on' as a zero sum game, are competitive within the team, and only want to do work that will benefit their career (and always have an excuse for avoiding the shared 'grunt' work). Since they started the team has become quite an unpleasant place to work.

Nothing wrong with ambition, plenty wrong with trying to undermine others, and being spiteful and selfish.

Edit for typo

@IsoldeWagner is right about the titles, Viscount Linley was only ever David until he inherited the earldom.

They were quite rackety IMO, at least by standards then, or what we found out about then. I'm old enough to remember the Roddy Llewellyn thing. Margaret also had a distinct reputation for being difficult and imperious. In fairness to both Snowdon and Margaret though, they never turned on the RF publically and chomped on the hand they wanted to feed them.

Yes, I think that's the difference. They could have made millions by selling secrets and dishing royal dirt. They didn't. That honour goes to the grasping and shameless Sussexes.

I think despite it all PM was a good parent. She supported her children in.what they wanted to do. Sent them to schools that were right for them. They also had a huge influence from their grandmother and aunt. In much the way that Margaret played a big role in childhoods of Charles and Anne. I read she was the only one who was interested in Anne's education and would keep a check on it.

Yes, that's true, and both David and Sarah have gone on to have successful careers in the arts. They also choose to live privately, which I respect.

Harry is so lacking in self awareness. Complaining that he can’t get in touch with his father. But why would the RF want to speak with him, when his motive could be to get more fodder for his next book or Netflix interviews. He left the RF to live a normal family life away from the public. If he had followed through with that he could now be living his best life, instead he has inserted himself into as much drama as possible, going against what his intention was at the start.

I think that the problem is that he was not prepared to give up being royal. He just wanted to be royal without the work and the strictures. Making $$$ and relaxing in the sun, while feted on a global stage.

'collaborating with the Queen'

This shows how they thought they could leapfrog their position in the heirarchy over W&C and C&C as they were sooooo special - deluded and grandiose As Ever.

Also PH has taken his wife and DC to the UK when it suited him - they were all 4 here at the Jubillee - H&M v 'exposed' on the steps of St Pauls (cant recall if they went to the concert on The Mall) - leaning out to windows to ensure media overage (in a car and from a building) - hosting a party for Lili in Windsor and issuing numerous photos of her.

Then PH accompanied MM to the very public One Young World event to speak.....so he's not concerned about their security in the UK because he has taken his family here. He wants IPP status so other taxpayers elsewhere pay his security bills.

I think if he had gone to live this quiet life just doing charity work etc and keeping on top of his mental health which seems poor KC would probably have carried on quietly funding him and then William would have taken the allowance over when king himself. If he was taking steps to secure his ongoing mental health they would have been supportive.

But the wanting to set up a rival royal camp for maximum publicity and cash means the RF need to distance themselves. And that’s before the hurtful revelations in Spare and interviews.

I think he didnt attend because the whole intense Sentebale drama was playing out minute by minute in the media with Dr Sophie, PH and PH 'sources' at the same timeof thee wedding - where PH was accused of misogynoir, bullying and misogyny by a highly, globally professional, accomplished and intellectual black woman and PH friend was marrying a highly, globally professional, accomplished and intellectual black woman. I would imagine that half of the wedding guests would have been of colour and not appreciated the presence of someone embroiled in such allegations of disgusting behviour.