Best advice for Harry going forward?

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I have all the same initial reactions as many others on MN regarding Harry i.e. whiner, grifter, stupid, entitled etc and it's easy to dole out the criticism.

However while I wouldn't say I have sympathy for him, as so much of his situation is of his own making, I actually do have some underlying feelings of concern for him and his future (and children).

He reminds me an awful lot of a relative of mine who is neurodiverse with a mild learning disability and a tendency to be self-absorbed with an overdeveloped victim complex - always lashing out, blaming others, seeing conspiracy where there is none etc.

Harry is clearly a damaged man, with childhood trauma and issues which continue to plague his mental health.
As with my relative, he has grown up with a support network which has probably quietly managed and enabled his passage through life, but when big outbursts happen (as have happened in our family too) everyone backs off and 'grey rocks' him until he has calmed down. Some people just give up, too exhausted by the constant drama of it all.

No he was mine :))

anyone can say anything on here.

If that’s the guardian view Harry is toast. Harry Antoinette.

If he's really anxious about security
Move somewhere large and isolated
Renounce his titles
Stop making public announcements or appearances of any kind.
Ignore the RF.
After a few years send private apologies to his family.
Once time has passed he will cease to be newsworthy and can visit UK in safety. And hopefully his family if they've forgiven him.

Probably because you didn’t have the information if the first place

They are the Duke and Duchess of Windsor of the 21st century
Very unsavory

She nailed him

"He is no longer a working royal, but a rich person. His Rich Highness. This involves a change of mindset in a mind that is somewhat hard to describe as quick on the uptake."

Do you think that these people ever look in the mirror and think "hang on...is it me that's the problem?"
I have every sympathy for those with difficult family relationships - I have some of my own - but their kids now have them and Doria. That's it.
And who knows if she will be singled out next?
Baffling.

Harry is a man who believes, deep in his soul, that his very DNA is royal and that that entitles him to extraordinary privileges.

Exactly this. He has said as much. According to Harry he gave 35 years of service before Megxit. He believes he served just by being born, and that the enormous privileges conferred on him are his by right.

I don’t know where you begin challenging such a mindset. If anyone needed a sensible wife he did.

The wedding—specifically a wedding of that type and size—with only one relative of the bride was a huge red flag.

At the time, I was still fully on board with the idea of the Fab Four, and glamming up the RF with a bit of Hollywood sparkle so I minimised what that really meant.

The Markle siblings seemed awful with all the things they were saying in the media so it wasn't a surprise she didn't invite them, but why were there no cousins, nieces, uncles and aunts from her mother's side, why wasn't the nice Markle uncle who had helped get her Argentinian internship there?

Kate had more of her relations at Meghan's wedding than Meghan did.

I could be wrong, and no doubt will be told repeatedly that I’m wrong, but I personally think it’s a bit of a stretch to interpret the writing of Marina Hyde, daughter of Sir Alastair Edgcumbe James Dudley-Williams, 2nd Baronet, as representative of the left’s collective pov?

Many on the left would say that the Guardian itself does not represent their readership any longer either!

And she’s a friend of Piers Morgan allegedly!

Interesting!

I’m assuming you mean that Harry’s toast because a scathing article in the guardian means it will be read by the demographic that would normally support him or be more favourable?
which I would agree with, if he’s getting these articles from all sides it means that , no one is impressed with his latest actions!

@wordler I wasn’t paying attention at the time, but that is very sad.

The Guardian? Doesn't count for much. I suspect the Sussexes fan base is more on the right, what with them being very royal, and the opposite of republican or socialist.

Jeff, people on the left wouldn't support Harry, surely? He's insisting on maintaining his royal titles, status and privilege, even though he's not a working royal anymore, and basically living off royal wealth?

Right , left , up , down in the centre… all of us united by Meghan and Harry!!! 🤣🤣

I suspect the Sussexes fan base is more on the right, what with them being very royal

But people who support the KIng (who is the most royal of anyone), W & C will not support H & M. I don't know who their fans are.

😂😂although probably the hard line Royalists support him because of his titles.

I think that's a good point. Although my point is that if you dislike the principle of royalty, surely Harry is in that group, worse, because he's not even doing royal duties?.

although probably the hard line Royalists support him because of his titles.

But surely hard line royalists support the King first and foremost?

See you would think that wouldn’t you !
but the amount of republicans waving away any criticism of Harry and Meghan is quite something!
when questioned we get the wishy washy excuse that they just don’t like the bullying ( but don’t care about h and m bullying people apparently!) .
so all I can assume is that they aren’t really supporting the couple in good faith but because they aren’t enjoying the royal family being vilified and dragged through the mud! 🤷‍♀️

Yes, you'd think so, but I'm then wondering why any republicans would support them? They haven't challenged the monarchy, they clearly revel in the status and titles, they go on quasi royal tours, they have crowns on monogrammed stationery and a coat of arms on their website, they haven't shed their royalness one iota they're just merching it.
Anyway, as I said. Odd.

I think you've actually nailed it 👍

Thankyou for not noticing that I accidentally put aren’t instead of are!!! 🤣🤣 too late for edit now!

Some republicans see Harry and Meghan as disrupters - a useful vehicle to help reduce the popularity of the royal family and try to move the needle towards a republic.

It looked like an effective tactic in 2020, but they've behaved so oddly that they've managed to make the BRF look like the safe, reliable option - you see many anti monarchy posters saying they now appreciate Kate and William more in comparison.

So it's backfired a little.