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Harry's new interview

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Viviennemary · 02/05/2025 17:49

Harry has just given an interview quite a long one. I only heard a snippet and i'm totally incensed. Harry has said he doesn't know how long Charles has left. Who says that on TV for the whole nation to hear. What is the matter with the man. He is an absolute disgrace.

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IcedPurple · 02/05/2025 19:24

sualipa · 02/05/2025 19:21

Harry is more human than all these stuffed suits will ever be with their protocols and made up stuff.

It was the 'stuffed suits' who managed to restrain Harry from his worst nature, and who smoothed his path so all he had to do was turn up and be fawned over.

Anyway, the law is not 'made up stuff' and 3 High Court judges have ruled against him.

Serenster · 02/05/2025 19:24

sualipa · 02/05/2025 19:21

Harry is more human than all these stuffed suits will ever be with their protocols and made up stuff.

Harry the man who has been arguing for years now and at great cost that these protocols absolutely definitely should apply to him because his personal status is so high?

Theunamedcat · 02/05/2025 19:24

viques · 02/05/2025 19:21

To be fair, Charles did stick to the same mistress during his first marriage, whereas Diana had a series of lovers …….

And there was Kanga too

Helloworlditsmeagain · 02/05/2025 19:24

Baital · 02/05/2025 19:21

It's decades ago. They are a long-married couple, who seem to have been faithful to each other. Which suggests they learnt from their mistakes and have done better since.

Diana also had affairs, and if she had lived may have also been in a long term, faithful marriage (or may not!). In which case what she did decades ago would also be irrelevant.

I am glad I don't get my stupid mistakes of 30 years ago constantly brought up.

What I am trying to say is he probably doesn't like her and that's okay.

BrieHugger · 02/05/2025 19:25

I’m always wary of a person who’s a common denominator in fall outs, and it’s odd that both M&H have lost touch with almost all their family along with several besties.

I quite liked both of them until all this, but I’m a big believer in “least said, soonest mended” and they’ve blown that right out of the water.

Serenster · 02/05/2025 19:25

Theunamedcat · 02/05/2025 19:24

And there was Kanga too

That relationship was before Charles was married.

Baital · 02/05/2025 19:25

sualipa · 02/05/2025 19:21

Harry is more human than all these stuffed suits will ever be with their protocols and made up stuff.

😂 Harry is very keen on protocol! Being called 'sir' and deferred to, the title, wanting the highest level of security automatically because of his status etc

It's all 'made up stuff'.

The word you are looking for isn't 'hunan', it's 'petulant '. Or maybe 'entitled'.

2024onwardsandup · 02/05/2025 19:26

i mean he’s a dickhead - but I agree with him. He has risks because he was born into the family - just because he leaves the royal family does not mean - in itself - that these risks disappear.

they may reduce - but there should be an ongoing assessment of risks to him. And also a consideration of costs when he may make choices to travel etc.

ie it is reasonable that he has risk assessments and gets security on the basis of those assessments

just because he is a total and utter wanker does not mean that he should be at higher risk because he was born into the royal family

Pikablue · 02/05/2025 19:26

TasWair · 02/05/2025 17:53

It really is not a shocking thing to say about an elderly man. The context is that Charles isn't talking to him, and that Harry wants to make amends because life is short.
I can't envisage any situation where I wouldn't talk to my children tbh, even if I didn't approve of the way they live or of their spouse. It must be absolutely awful for Harry that his father won't speak to him, but seems to have forgiven the horrific transgressions of his brother, Andrew.

Yeah it's really baffling why he doesn't want to speak to his untrustworthy, spiteful, lying toad of a child who betrayed his family. I imagine the issue isn't who he chose to marry or him moving away, but more his actions since.

Merrymouse · 02/05/2025 19:26

William's generation - Harry
Charles's generation - Andrew
Queen's generation - Margaret
George VIs generation - Edward VIII
George Vs generation - can't be bothered to google his siblings, but he certainly didn't get on with all his cousins
Edward VII - famous for his affairs
Victoria - no royal siblings and famous for her devotion to her husband - the outlier.
William IV - 10+ illegitimate children before he got married
Georgians - known for going no contact with each other.
Stuarts - had a bit of a mixed time as Royals
Tudors - Also rather iffy family relationships
War of the Roses - enough said.

I think we have established a pattern. It is traditional for the the Royal family to have feuds and scandals, and if anything Harry should try harder - gather an army or something. Time is still on his side though.

Serenster · 02/05/2025 19:27

they may reduce - but there should be an ongoing assessment of risks to him. And also a consideration of costs when he may make choices to travel etc.
ie it is reasonable that he has risk assessments and gets security on the basis of those assessments

All off this is what happens though, if he gives RAVEC notice of his arrival in the UK.

Snorlaxo · 02/05/2025 19:27

sualipa · 02/05/2025 19:21

Harry is more human than all these stuffed suits will ever be with their protocols and made up stuff.

They created a positive image for him - remember the days when he was the second most popular royal after Queen Elizabeth ?

IcedPurple · 02/05/2025 19:28

2024onwardsandup · 02/05/2025 19:26

i mean he’s a dickhead - but I agree with him. He has risks because he was born into the family - just because he leaves the royal family does not mean - in itself - that these risks disappear.

they may reduce - but there should be an ongoing assessment of risks to him. And also a consideration of costs when he may make choices to travel etc.

ie it is reasonable that he has risk assessments and gets security on the basis of those assessments

just because he is a total and utter wanker does not mean that he should be at higher risk because he was born into the royal family

I take it you are unaware that he has a special arrangement with RAVEC whereby his security needs are kept under continual review and any security which is deemed necessary, based on threat assessments, will be provided?

BitOutOfPractice · 02/05/2025 19:28

He says he wants a reconciliation. Surely the day your dad gets a cancer diagnosis is the day you pick up the phone? Honestly they are all emotionally stunted.

Theunamedcat · 02/05/2025 19:29

Hardcrustsfromnowon654 · 02/05/2025 18:49

Tbf I think Harry made three reasonable points in his interview:

-when he says it’s strange that his security status fell overnight from one hundred to zero when they decided to leave! Surely some of the security threats relate to the fact that he is the son of the king and are nothing to do with his duties?

-when he said that RAVEC’s first step in the process was always coming to the palace to ask the RF what their requirements were?
People always seem to ignore the massive soft power and influence that the royal household has when they state this is an objective process.

-it’s apparent that you get a higher level of protection when the RF invites you to visit, but if you come for any other reason, you don’t. And that suggests to me, that the decision is not wholly based on risk alone.

Asking the royal family seems like a logical step

Is he coming to see you
Is he staying with you
Will he be speaking on the phone with you
Will he be attending events with you

They need to confirm things especially considering Harry's lose relationship with the truth

BrieHugger · 02/05/2025 19:29

BoldBlueZebra · 02/05/2025 19:00

FFS Harry lad, you don’t quit the job but still get to pop in and use the printer.

Perfect! 😂

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 02/05/2025 19:29

but there should be an ongoing assessment of risks to him.

But there is. All he has to do is let RAVEC know in advance that he’s travelling to the UK.

Pikablue · 02/05/2025 19:29

2024onwardsandup · 02/05/2025 19:26

i mean he’s a dickhead - but I agree with him. He has risks because he was born into the family - just because he leaves the royal family does not mean - in itself - that these risks disappear.

they may reduce - but there should be an ongoing assessment of risks to him. And also a consideration of costs when he may make choices to travel etc.

ie it is reasonable that he has risk assessments and gets security on the basis of those assessments

just because he is a total and utter wanker does not mean that he should be at higher risk because he was born into the royal family

But he does get that as long as he gives the prerequisite notice, he will get the appropriate security following a risk assessment for each and every visit as will his family, he just won't have armed security if he pops over on a whim and his hired team won't have unfettered access to intelligence.

ButterCrackers · 02/05/2025 19:29

They lost my support with the Oprah interview. After that and the book why would the royal family talk to him? He could have had it all - bet they’d have been rewarded for support through the difficult covid and ill health times with a castle and honours and lots of public adoration. He could have been the cool uncle, his wife a fun aunty. All the luxury and royal life. Imagine going back to the US for holidays with red carpet and prestige. Instead it’s the reality of keeping the titles and not sure what else? Never coming back - ok.

2024onwardsandup · 02/05/2025 19:30

Serenster · 02/05/2025 19:27

they may reduce - but there should be an ongoing assessment of risks to him. And also a consideration of costs when he may make choices to travel etc.
ie it is reasonable that he has risk assessments and gets security on the basis of those assessments

All off this is what happens though, if he gives RAVEC notice of his arrival in the UK.

That’s not my understanding of how he’s explaining it. He’s saying that he is NOT getting ongoing risk assessments - last one done in 2019. And his security depends on whether he is invited by the royal family or he comes for another reason (at which point it’s a lot lower).

he is also saying that this is different to PMs - who get security regardless of risk assessments and other high profile figures

i have no knowledge obvs if what he is saying is correct. But that’s what he is saying is the situation.

2024onwardsandup · 02/05/2025 19:30

Hes saying he only gets security in the UK if there is a “royal obligation” for him to be here

Baital · 02/05/2025 19:30

Helloworlditsmeagain · 02/05/2025 19:24

What I am trying to say is he probably doesn't like her and that's okay.

Of course. No reason why he should like her.

No reason why his father should like his choice of wife either.

The grown up thing to do is be civil and respect each other's choice. Which Charles seems to have done wrt Meghan, she was welcomed into the family far earlier than other girlfriends, the big wedding etc

JudgeJ · 02/05/2025 19:31

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 02/05/2025 19:16

Princess Anne did have a security officer with her at the time of the kidnap attempt - Jim Beaton
news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/20/newsid_2524000/2524489.stm

She was carrying out an official engagement so she had security and still does, that incident beefed up royal security, but it's only for official business.

AcquadiP · 02/05/2025 19:31

Harry is paranoid, delusional, untrustworthy and entitled. Thank God William is heir to the throne.

Serenster · 02/05/2025 19:31

That’s not my understanding of how he’s explaining it

Yes, you see this is the problem - you are relying on Harry’s account of what is happening. The judgment will be more helpful - it’s factual. 😀

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