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Harry's new interview

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Viviennemary · 02/05/2025 17:49

Harry has just given an interview quite a long one. I only heard a snippet and i'm totally incensed. Harry has said he doesn't know how long Charles has left. Who says that on TV for the whole nation to hear. What is the matter with the man. He is an absolute disgrace.

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Superhansrantowindsor · 02/05/2025 19:01

is the uk more dangerous than California? Who pays for his security there?

Helloworlditsmeagain · 02/05/2025 19:01

The king can't talk to Harry until the court has given the final verdict. The king has to remain impartial. Hopefully within the next few weeks they will start talking again now it's over.

deeahgwitch · 02/05/2025 19:02

@SnoozingFox- you forgot to mention M&H’s treatment of her father !
What’s sauce for the goose ………….

Helloworlditsmeagain · 02/05/2025 19:03

I am seeing security around him right now on the news. I wonder how many of them have guns.

Snorlaxo · 02/05/2025 19:03

Hardcrustsfromnowon654 · 02/05/2025 18:49

Tbf I think Harry made three reasonable points in his interview:

-when he says it’s strange that his security status fell overnight from one hundred to zero when they decided to leave! Surely some of the security threats relate to the fact that he is the son of the king and are nothing to do with his duties?

-when he said that RAVEC’s first step in the process was always coming to the palace to ask the RF what their requirements were?
People always seem to ignore the massive soft power and influence that the royal household has when they state this is an objective process.

-it’s apparent that you get a higher level of protection when the RF invites you to visit, but if you come for any other reason, you don’t. And that suggests to me, that the decision is not wholly based on risk alone.

Harry had full security courtesy of Canadian taxpayers during the Brexit transition year in Canada because he was treated as a senior working royal during that year who warranted protection.
He can’t have UK armed police protecting him overseas because the laws about guns are different overseas and the UK doesn’t want armed police protecting their nationals living in the UK too.
He has had full security on many occasions where he returned to the UK eg the Jubilee which is very reasonable imo
He gets the protection when he visits because people know he’s on his way eg the Coronation so his risk is higher. Nobody wants to pay for protection if he’s making leisure visits like seeing friends or appearing at court for his personal cases. In the case of the court cases, I believe that nobody knew if he was appearing in person until the day in question.
In his appeal, he objected to giving notice of his intended arrival which is very reasonable imo. How can you make sure that resources are well used if you can’t plan ahead ?

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 02/05/2025 19:04

@Hardcrustsfromnowon654

Good points

So if Harry is invited over by the RF he gets security but if say Harry gets invited over to the UK to stay with a friend then he's basically got a big target on his back.

However as like most people once you've left the company all benefits cease & you have to pay for things yourself.

But then on the other hand he is still the King's son & we all know that unfortunately that there are some nasty people out there.
So I do think the decision to remove security for private visits is a bit short sighted at the moment.

When the day comes that William is King, Harry's security risk should lessen as he won't be seen as important, as he'll only be the King's brother & one day Harry will only be the monarch's Uncle.

Edited to add: Yet Harry does pay for his own security in California & elsewhere & I'm sure the security risk in USA & other countries is the same as it is in the UK.

Feelingmuchbetter · 02/05/2025 19:04

As a tax payer I am relieved, we need hospital beds not layers of security for a family that don’t even like us or live here!

Helloworlditsmeagain · 02/05/2025 19:04

deeahgwitch · 02/05/2025 19:02

@SnoozingFox- you forgot to mention M&H’s treatment of her father !
What’s sauce for the goose ………….

Her father is a rotten man and so is her sister. Vile people.

TheignT · 02/05/2025 19:04

Hardcrustsfromnowon654 · 02/05/2025 18:13

Well said; I totally agree with this.

I quite like King Charles but I don’t think he was equipped by his upbringing to be a particularly good father.

And it’s not a good look for KC if he talks to Andrew but not his own son! It’s tantamount to saying; I don’t care what you have done but loyalty to this family is more important than any of that “shady business” you have been involved in!

Edited

Maybe its more that he can have a conversation with Andrew that isn't then quoted to the world, I wouldn't want someone reporting what I've said in private be that a sibling or a child.

EsmaCannonball · 02/05/2025 19:06

EdithBond · 02/05/2025 18:55

Maybe you’d be wary of talking to your kids if what you said was published in a book, serialised in the media and discussed on Oprah.

From what I heard in the interview, Harry seemed to be blaming the security arrangements for not speaking to Charles. I didn’t quite get that. Is it because they can’t give him a secure email/phone connection or something?

I'm really tickled by the idea of Harry needing a secure line to speak to his father. He'd probably have Oprah, Netflix and People Magazine listening in on the bedroom extension.

He really has no idea why his family are wary of private conversations with him, does he? He's soooo dim.

Helloworlditsmeagain · 02/05/2025 19:06

TheignT · 02/05/2025 19:04

Maybe its more that he can have a conversation with Andrew that isn't then quoted to the world, I wouldn't want someone reporting what I've said in private be that a sibling or a child.

I wouldn't defend it

TheignT · 02/05/2025 19:06

Helloworlditsmeagain · 02/05/2025 19:01

The king can't talk to Harry until the court has given the final verdict. The king has to remain impartial. Hopefully within the next few weeks they will start talking again now it's over.

Maybe less likely after what he's said today.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 02/05/2025 19:07

Buckingham Palace’s response to Harry’s allegation of establishment stitch up.

Harry's new interview
TheignT · 02/05/2025 19:08

Helloworlditsmeagain · 02/05/2025 19:06

I wouldn't defend it

Not defending but explaining why Charles might feel unable to talk to Harry. Imagine talking to someone when you have to think so carefully about what you are saying and can it be quoted out of context and how it might be twisted.

IcedPurple · 02/05/2025 19:08

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 02/05/2025 19:04

@Hardcrustsfromnowon654

Good points

So if Harry is invited over by the RF he gets security but if say Harry gets invited over to the UK to stay with a friend then he's basically got a big target on his back.

However as like most people once you've left the company all benefits cease & you have to pay for things yourself.

But then on the other hand he is still the King's son & we all know that unfortunately that there are some nasty people out there.
So I do think the decision to remove security for private visits is a bit short sighted at the moment.

When the day comes that William is King, Harry's security risk should lessen as he won't be seen as important, as he'll only be the King's brother & one day Harry will only be the monarch's Uncle.

Edited to add: Yet Harry does pay for his own security in California & elsewhere & I'm sure the security risk in USA & other countries is the same as it is in the UK.

Edited

Again, you're going purely on Harry's account of things. Anyone who's seen his behaviour over the past few years know that he is not a reliable narrator.

In previous court documents, there was no reference to security not being provided on 'private' visits. Of course, there were a lot of redactions but my understanding was that his security needs are kept under review and provided he gives advance notice, security will be provided as needed.

In any case, he gets by fine in California without taxpayer security so why would he suddenly 'have a target on his back' in London?

pilates · 02/05/2025 19:08

Spectre8 · 02/05/2025 17:57

Well he said he doesn't know cos he doesn't. If someone has his illness and at his age then of course people will wonder how long he has left. There have been comments of similar effect by posters on other threads here wondering how long he has left as King. But that's okay for other people say those things but not him 🤪

My nan had dementia family would wonder how long she would have left, my dad had it and he was not as old (in his 70s compared to her at 90) and we thought he would live longer, both passed away a yr after their diagnosis.

So again what's the issue? At some point we all wonder how long we or our loved ones will live

Edited

Yes you might think it but you wouldn’t say it and you certainly wouldn’t broadcast it to the world. Seriously what is wrong with him!

Nannyfannybanny · 02/05/2025 19:08

Charles is 76 hardly an elderly man. Working full time
The queen and queen mother loved to ripe old age. I gather Harry never attempted to see Charles when he came to the UK, and Ms Sussex doesn't speak to her father

sualipa · 02/05/2025 19:09

Good on Harry time to unleash Spare 2 and spare nobody.

ilovemydogandmrobama2 · 02/05/2025 19:09

Not a massive fan, but he does make some good points.

Odd that he felt the verdict was a, 'surprise,'

Jux · 02/05/2025 19:09

Seems it's not Harry's turn to have The Ginger Braincell at the moment.

dayswithaY · 02/05/2025 19:10

He is clearly using the “I can’t bring my family to the UK ever again” line to manipulate KC. I can’t believe that if they took a flight - unannounced - to a private airfield in Scotland and then spent two weeks at Balmoral - again, unannounced - that they wouldn’t be safe.

Also very strange that you can carry a concealed weapon in most states in America, yet he feels unsafe in the UK?

Helloworlditsmeagain · 02/05/2025 19:11

EsmaCannonball · 02/05/2025 19:06

I'm really tickled by the idea of Harry needing a secure line to speak to his father. He'd probably have Oprah, Netflix and People Magazine listening in on the bedroom extension.

He really has no idea why his family are wary of private conversations with him, does he? He's soooo dim.

If it's good for the Kardashians it's good for Harry. People watched his interview and netflix series, and bought the book. If no one bought the book or watched him then that would be the end. People are obsessed with the RF and that includes Harry.

SapatSea · 02/05/2025 19:11

@Superhansrantowindsor AFAIK H pays for his own security in Montecito and in US you can have armed guards. I think if he had won this case he would have used it as a springboard to argue he should have UK funded armed police all the time wherever he is. When H&M left the RF and "fled" to Canada he still had Met armed police that had to fly out in rotas to give 24/7 protection and I read he told M that this would not change. I think Canada provided some coverage ( which went down like a lead balloon witht he public there) and I think Charles stumped up for guards for sometime. H and his family can have full protection if they come and stay at one of the many, many royal residences, he can also give notice to RAVEC of his plans to visit and they will advise on protection to be offered. H doesn't like that and he wants to either bring his own armed guards ( which you aren't allowed in UK unless you are the US President visiting with a lot of arrangements and notification) or he claims he would pay armed police - again not permitted.

EsmaCannonball · 02/05/2025 19:12

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 02/05/2025 19:04

@Hardcrustsfromnowon654

Good points

So if Harry is invited over by the RF he gets security but if say Harry gets invited over to the UK to stay with a friend then he's basically got a big target on his back.

However as like most people once you've left the company all benefits cease & you have to pay for things yourself.

But then on the other hand he is still the King's son & we all know that unfortunately that there are some nasty people out there.
So I do think the decision to remove security for private visits is a bit short sighted at the moment.

When the day comes that William is King, Harry's security risk should lessen as he won't be seen as important, as he'll only be the King's brother & one day Harry will only be the monarch's Uncle.

Edited to add: Yet Harry does pay for his own security in California & elsewhere & I'm sure the security risk in USA & other countries is the same as it is in the UK.

Edited

There are working members of the royal family who don't get security for private events and visits. Someone tried to kidnap Princess Anne and she doesn't get full-time security.

Harry doesn't realise that the UK public pays for security for representatives of the head of state; it doesn't pay for security because people are born into the royal family.

MrsPlantagenet · 02/05/2025 19:12

sualipa · 02/05/2025 19:09

Good on Harry time to unleash Spare 2 and spare nobody.

I hope so.

He spoke about Charles with great respect in Spare, people seem to forget that.

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