All the focus on H & M - where's the outrage against Andrew? (Season 2)

[Samcro]

Thread 2 of what is an interesting topic.

Well probably but I’d argue that British citizens already have a vested interest in knowing in more detail what has happened. The whole point of the RF is that it serves the country, so we all have a right to
be interested in what is being carried out in our name?

I haven't RTFT, but this might be of interest. I'm reading a book by Ben Macintyre about the Iranian Embassy siege. For those too young to have been around, this happened in 1980 when gunmen took hostages inside the Iranian Embassy in London, and eventually the SAS stormed the place and rescued the hostages inside.

It's day five of the siege. Macintyre writes:

Then came intrusion from another quarter, in the shape of His Royal Highness Prince Andrew.
At 11:41, a message arrived at Zulu Control [the police command centre] from Inspector Peter Prentice, of the Royalty Protection unit. The Queen's second son, and second in line to the throne, had been watching television coverage of the siege and wished 'to be allowed to visit the scene'. In fact, Prentice explained, the Prince would like to 'visit for lunch'.
Prince Andrew was then a twenty-year-old trainee helicopter pilot in the Royal Navy.
The last thing Dellow [most senior police officer] needed, at this delicate moment, was a princeling and his entourage in the building standing around asking questions and eating sandwiches. The royal request was denied 'on the grounds of safety'. Instead, deftly passing the buck upwards, Dellow 'suggested that HRH might like to attend New Scotland Yard to be briefed by the Commissioner'. But Prince Andrew did not want to see David McNee. The young royal wished to be where the action was. He wanted to see the drama unfolding. And he was used to getting what he wanted.

I really have no words to describe my reaction to that little nugget of Andrew's behaviour all those years ago. I reckon he's been arrogant since the day he was born.

Bloody hell!

Someone I work with used to be a police officer and had dealings with the royal family. Had nice things to say about all of them save for Andrew. Apparently he wasn’t popular with many of the protection officers either.

Arrogant and pompous were the words used.

Arrogant and pompous were the words used.

colour me red in surprise!

It's always been very obvious in him.

Yes I have a friend who is in Special Protection and he says no one likes Andrew as he is a pompous twat who likes to throw his weight about

eta I’ve said before that my friend said that Prince Philip was highly regarded and would often have a chat and a joke with protection officers

Sooo... where is the "outrage against Andrew" then? 😀

None then???

Virginia Giuffre has just taken her own life.

Just awful. She fought for sexual abuse survivors and her mental and physical pain became too much.
I just hope I don't see some of the posts that were written about her on here when she was alive. Sometimes being a survivor of SA becomes too much to bear.

I wonder if Andrew is sweating today. Bastard.

So awful, that poor, poor woman!

May she rest in peace.

how sad, I can't imagine what that poor woman went trough.

Very sad news.

RIP brave lady.

This is such sad news. Didn’t she have children? It just shows how you can never completely leave abuse of this sort completely behind. When she won the case, I was hoping she would be able to move forward. So tragic that she could not.

its been horrid to see all the victim blaming posts (on the other thread)
even after this happening, there is more interest on here in bashing Meghan(and weirdly POW)

Yes, the thread about her and Andrew has made me feel quite ill, even in death she is made out to be some sort of promiscuous girl who knew what she was doing and just after money.

i stayed away. one read was enough. It seems people forget what it is like to be that age.

Shocking that people still think that way. Poor woman had an awful life.

Sadly true to form for many on here. They largely ignored those found guilty of threats against Meghan and her family when they lived in UK. They can never acknowledge that their words and nastiness all contributed and empowered others to try and act on those threats.
Even now many won't speak about Andrew and his cosy relationship with his siblings and other relatives. We know that Charles too has questionable behaviour when it comes to supporting paedophiles, something else that is largely ignored.

A few people said that. The majority said nothing of the sort.

Who was "found guilty of threats against Meghan"? I never heard that anyone was? Was someone charged and sentenced appropriately? If so, it passed me by.

Charles meets huge numbers of people, many of them rich and powerful. Why should he have been expected to know what Savile (for example) was when so many were covering up for him?

And why shouldn't Andrew have a relationship with his family? I'm sure they believe he is not guilty of the allegations of sexual misconduct. It's an invidious position for them to be in.

Poor woman agreed. I hope she’s now at peace.

Who was "found guilty of threats against Meghan"? I never heard that anyone was? Was someone charged and sentenced appropriately? If so, it passed me by

A couple of people were given pretty lengthy sentences for plotting against Harry because he was a 'race traitor', and against Archie so the threats weren't against Meghan but they were related to her.