All the focus on H & M - where's the outrage against Andrew? (Season 2)

[Samcro]

Thread 2 of what is an interesting topic.

They have no known stance on ducks. I included the article for reasons that I have explained. It's a very positive article about Meghan.

I don’t think some posters will be happy unless Andrew is locked in the Tower, not allowed visitors, and only fed gruel every other day, this will probably be seen as far to luxurious by some, and a public beheading is the only acceptable way forward, they will probably then moan that the execution was too swift and the executioner should have used a rusty axe.

Indeed.

They won't be happy until Andrew gets punished a la Edward 2 .

be warned - don't look at the image if you're of a weak disposition!

😂
Then they'll say: "Why does no-one ever criticise Andrew? Meghan gets bashed all the time?"
Because it seems to be on a loop and they don't read the comments, just what they think people might say.

It seems to be a reflex response now doesn’t it? they can’t help themselves!

😂😂
Why did no-one criticise the fact that Andrew went to church at Easter?
Why did the royal family allow it?
Why didn't he go in the side door?.
Why has Jeff got pampas grass bigger than herself?.
So many unanswered questions.

Why was Andrew's jacket not buttoned up ? Why did he sneak in and avoid shaking the vicar's hand ? Why was he wearing a tie pin? Was it a microphone?

Why was his tie tucked into his trousers?
Why does Princess Anne wear clothes from 1973 and I can't fit into last year's stuff?
Why does Princess Beatrice carry a big paper bag instead of a handbag?
Why do Royal women wear stiletto heels on cobbles and not go arse over tit?

Edited to say that the quote function went wrong there, sorry, or I pressed the wrong key; I am making a general point. I wasn’t intending to respond to one poster in particular.

Yeah all very humorous I’m sure but this is nothing whatsoever to do with H&M and
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want someone to be held accountable for the fact that PA allegedly lined his own pockets while supposedly promoting British business, and has formed alliances with some very nefarious characters, the latest of whom has been deemed a potential threat to UK security? And that’s leaving aside his alleged involvement in the
abuse of very young women where there was a significant power imbalance at play,

Like it or not these are very serious issues.

And the incident with the Chinese spy happened only very recently.

We will find out more from Lownie’s book no doub, but it looks like there have been some very “unusual” financial transactions in PA’s past and there are a lot of questions about his current financial status too that need answering.

King Charles can’t have it both ways!
The RF is not just a private collection of individuals doing private things. If a member of the firm has done something to endanger the security of the country, or has profited personally from their status, or is found to be involved in financial irregularities, then the head of the organisation has to act, and not allow it all to continue with no questions asked or answered.

Yeah all very humorous I’m sure but this is nothing whatsoever to do with H&so and

Eh?

@Enoughisenough689 I don't understand. It's been discussed at length on these threads.
Andrew comes in for a lot of criticism, rightly so. It's all been said about the RF and most people agree, but just have different opinions on what should happen.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want someone* to be held accountable for the fact that PA allegedly lined his own pockets while supposedly promoting British business, and has formed alliances with some very nefarious characters, the latest of whom has been deemed a potential threat to UK security? And that’s leaving aside his alleged involvement in the
abuse of very young women where there was a significant power imbalance at play*

It’s out of our hands though, the only thing you can do is write to your MP stating the above and if you don’t get the answers maybe Republic UK can take the mantle (maybe they are already on it).

Sorry I explained my error with the quote button below.

Bea’s bag did look like she’d got a McDonald’s on the way, though 😆

Maybe she did! 😂

Ah I see now, thanks.

Does that mean that the people who don’t think much should happen, are content for King Charles to handle it internally with no public accountability?

Well, we're on part..whatever now about PA, so I can't quite remember. I think some people want KC to directly take action, others have variant opinions. If you read through this thread, you'll probably see some suggestions. If you do a search, you may be able to find the other threads.

can you explain what you mean by public accountability? I’m not understanding what this would entail?

Isn’t that a bit laissez faire though BigWillyLittleTodger?

Don’t you find it problematic that “the only thing we can do” is write to our MPs?

And what’s the point of doing that when current practice places limits on the questions MPs can ask about members of the family in parliament, which makes proper scrutiny virtually impossible?

Do you not find it unfair that the royals are exempt from so many laws of the land that apply to us ordinary folk?

For example, Charles is exempt from criminal and civil proceedings as the head of state.

In fact the King’s immunity extends beyond his public duties to his conduct on privately-owned assets, estates, and businesses.

Currently, more than 30 different laws bar the police from entering private royal estates without the sovereign’s permission to investigate suspected crimes.

Don’t you want to know if this exemption came in to force when Andrew’s activities were being investigated and he was hiding at Wndsor?

Charles is also exempt from punishment over wildlife offenses, environmental pollution, and other green crimes. which is a form of legal immunity given to no other UK private landowner.

How far do these exemptions extend to the rest of the RF? Is it clear?

This system relies on the RF being honest, honourable and above board. Are you content to just trust their word on that?

X posts, please see answer at @21.15,

But unless you go down the routes that I suggested as a starting point I don’t know what you expect me to say? How do you want your points dealt with and by who? if it’s not the government or the body who want a republic, who is it?

Well the MPs in London have presumably had all of this information for years, and have shown themselves uninterested in pursuing these issues further, and therefore, as the RF well knows, the biggest risk to the future of the monarchy is damage to their reputation.

It is becoming clearer that their desire to cover it up is probably badly misplaced, as the best thing would have been to get it out in the open before the publication of AL’s book.

If there is illegality, or even worse criminality, it is for all of us to work together to get it out in the open and force a formal investigation.

Republic UK is probably your best bet then.