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All the focus on H & M - where's the outrage against Andrew? (Season 2)

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Samcro · 16/04/2025 19:16

Thread 2 of what is an interesting topic.

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vera99 · 20/04/2025 15:44

Stripeyanddotty · 20/04/2025 14:54

@wordler
Yes that’s true.
But that was before the very much ‘slimmed down’ monarchy.
Basically it’s all down to William now.

Or Kate - that is Tina Brown's avowed opinion - if she was ever to go rogue like Diana then it's over for the monarchy and she is an arch monarchist and I heard those words from her own mouth.

vera99 · 20/04/2025 15:47

vera99 · 20/04/2025 15:44

Or Kate - that is Tina Brown's avowed opinion - if she was ever to go rogue like Diana then it's over for the monarchy and she is an arch monarchist and I heard those words from her own mouth.

Tina Brown, the royal biographer and author of The Palace Papers and The Diana Chronicles, has spoken and written extensively about the future of the British monarchy. Her overall take is that the monarchy is in a transitional phase, facing serious challenges but also opportunities for reinvention — particularly through the next generation.

Here are a few key points she’s made:

Charles' Reign as a Holding Pattern: Brown sees King Charles as a sort of caretaker monarch — steady and duty-bound, but not one who will radically modernize the institution. She believes his reign will be relatively short and focused on slimming down the monarchy and keeping it functional amid rising public scrutiny.

William and Kate as the Future: She positions Prince William and Catherine as the monarchy’s best hope. Brown argues that they are image-conscious, savvy, and modern enough to connect with younger generations, especially post-Queen Elizabeth. She sees them as essential to maintaining the monarchy’s relevance.

The Harry and Meghan Problem: Brown has been quite critical of Harry and Meghan's departure and public criticisms of the royal family. She believes their exit created a crisis of image and has strained public trust, especially among younger people who are more sympathetic to their perspective.

Institutional Survival Depends on Adaptation: Ultimately, Brown suggests that the monarchy can survive — but only if it continues to adapt to contemporary values, becomes more transparent, and stays emotionally in touch with the public.

Tina Brown, a seasoned royal commentator and author of The Palace Papers, has emphasized the pivotal role of Catherine, Princess of Wales, in the stability of the British monarchy. Brown asserts that the monarchy's future "hangs by a thread," with that thread being Catherine herself. She highlights Catherine's unique position as a modern, well-educated, and committed figure within the royal institution, noting that few young women could navigate the rigors of royal life as she ha

jeffgoldblum · 20/04/2025 15:56

Despite what others may think , I was actually enjoying the thread chatter without h and m for a change , especially as we have meandered into Easter and church topics .

currently they are not involved in this and cannot be blamed for who was or wasn’t at church.

BemusedAmerican · 20/04/2025 15:59

Some posters will be eating their words if it turns out that PW has actually been home negotiating for peace via Zoom. Or helping to prepare Easter dinner in a soup kitchen

BigWillyLittleTodger · 20/04/2025 16:02

themightysossidge · 20/04/2025 11:41

Charles made a change to be Defender of the FaithS in his coronation.

Are you sure about that?

vera99 · 20/04/2025 16:07

BemusedAmerican · 20/04/2025 15:59

Some posters will be eating their words if it turns out that PW has actually been home negotiating for peace via Zoom. Or helping to prepare Easter dinner in a soup kitchen

Reddit has a genuinely useful "remindme" bot that lets users flag a post and return to it later to assess how things played out. By comparison, MN operates in the digital stone age. He also needs to ease up on the peace rhetoric — it's not his role, and he has no real influence over the outcomes. When he speaks about it publicly, it comes across as empty platitudes and ends up serving as ammunition for his critics.

All the focus on H & M - where's the outrage against Andrew? (Season 2)
vera99 · 20/04/2025 16:09

BigWillyLittleTodger · 20/04/2025 16:02

Are you sure about that?

The claim that King Charles III changed his title to "Defender of the Faiths" at his coronation is inaccurate.

While Charles has long expressed a desire to be seen as a protector of all faiths, he retained the traditional title "Defender of the Faith" during his coronation. This title, historically associated with the monarch's role as the Supreme Governor of the Church of England, was not altered in the official proceedings.

However, the coronation ceremony did reflect Charles's commitment to religious inclusivity. For the first time, the Archbishop of Canterbury introduced the coronation oath with words acknowledging that the Church of England would "seek to foster an environment in which people of all faiths and beliefs may live freely."

In summary, although the formal title "Defender of the Faith" remained unchanged, the coronation incorporated elements that emphasized King Charles III's dedication to supporting a diverse and multi-faith society.

themightysossidge · 20/04/2025 16:09

BigWillyLittleTodger · 20/04/2025 16:02

Are you sure about that?

Apologies not those exact words.

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-05-06/how-the-kings-coronation-oath-changed-in-historic-break-with-tradition

jeffgoldblum · 20/04/2025 16:10

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/05/07/king-charles-defender-of-faiths-religion/

although Charles wanted to formally change the wording in his coronation speech to defender of all faiths , ultimately the archbishop was against it and only parliament can sanction the changes so it wasn’t allowed.
however to get around this and extend a bridge for the first time heads of other churches were invited and welcomed.

themightysossidge · 20/04/2025 16:10

"Today, for the first time, a preface was added to the coronation oath in which the Archbishop said the Church of England “will seek to foster an environment where people of all faiths and beliefs may live freely”."

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 20/04/2025 16:11

I’m so confused. I came on this thread expecting it to be a discussion on Andrew and now it’s “let’s shit all over William”.

Interesting.

Mylovelygreendress · 20/04/2025 16:14

TulipTiptoer · 20/04/2025 15:10

I am not sure if this is tongue in cheek or you really mean it.
Maybe the family need a holiday...to get over the holiday 🥴🤭

As a cancer survivor I have already replied to you but I am going to say again that you have NO idea how Catherine is feeling these days .
Cancer fucks you up and I find it deeply offensive that you are sneering at someone just because she goes on holiday with her husband and children.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 20/04/2025 16:14

As I stated on another thread, it is interesting to wonder what to think when it comes to Andrew attending church.

On the one hand, he is a social pariah and no longer a working royal. On the other hand, he is still entitled to his faith and family. He should be able to worship in the church of his choice alongside his family.

jeffgoldblum · 20/04/2025 16:14

All I’m going to say about the pointless plopping of an unrelated article is this.. the headline grabbing title doesn’t actually match the article underneath!
no where does it say William actually pledged to make peace in the Middle East his life long mission! 🙄

TulipTiptoer · 20/04/2025 16:16

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themightysossidge · 20/04/2025 16:16

MadeInGrimsby · 20/04/2025 15:17

Yes, this sort of comment is unnecessary. It was so prevalent last year. Dear lord some of those threads were vile.

And here we are again with the same tone. Same posters- different names?

themightysossidge · 20/04/2025 16:17

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Gosh that is a nasty and despicable response.

TulipTiptoer · 20/04/2025 16:18

themightysossidge · 20/04/2025 16:16

And here we are again with the same tone. Same posters- different names?

I did not post once on that thread or those threads, I barely read them because I could see what they were like.

Mylovelygreendress · 20/04/2025 16:18

themightysossidge · 20/04/2025 16:17

Gosh that is a nasty and despicable response.

Think I will step away now .

themightysossidge · 20/04/2025 16:19

TulipTiptoer · 20/04/2025 16:18

I did not post once on that thread or those threads, I barely read them because I could see what they were like.

Did I say that?

TulipTiptoer · 20/04/2025 16:20

themightysossidge · 20/04/2025 16:19

Did I say that?

You insinuated.

themightysossidge · 20/04/2025 16:21

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To be fair though it sounds as if you would have fitted right in.

themightysossidge · 20/04/2025 16:21

TulipTiptoer · 20/04/2025 16:20

You insinuated.

😂😂😂😂

IAmATorturedPoet · 20/04/2025 16:22

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What a very low and nasty response.

themightysossidge · 20/04/2025 16:24

How does it feel @TulipTiptoer to say something like that to a cancer survivor and cause her to be so upset she has left the thread? Does it make you feel good? You have defended your post that Kate must be fine and dandy as you saw a photo of her on skis?
I think we are seeing new lows on here today.

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