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The royal family

Sentebale #5

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glitterturd · 03/04/2025 23:41

As I finished the last one.

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Rhaidimiddim · 04/04/2025 16:43

BemusedAmerican · 04/04/2025 16:13

And the Sun once again going after the SS:

https://archive.ph/bRRJP

I'm so glad the MSM is finally beginning to acknowledge and report on the SS.

Onlyonekenobe · 04/04/2025 16:48

Sentebale: Harry has hung the trustees out to dry. They should have known better and I have no sympathy. But I'm pretty sure Harry will see them as collateral damage, not his fault or problem, that their job was to support and protect him and nothing that happens to them after the CC investigation is anything to do with him. Tbf, I can't see the CC coming out with anything too serious as regards the ex-trustees. But still. Arrogant and stupid as he is, I think Harry's too knee-jerk to have anything close to a strategic enough vision to set fire to the charity only to come to its rescue. I also don't think he cares enough about the organization: he hasn't been to Lesotho in 6 years, losing it would be like losing a finger (wtf?), it's an unproductive relic from his previous life (Invictus at least serves a purpose today), and pretty sure his day to day life as influenced by his wife and children leaves little room for the beneficiaries of Sentebale (other than polo matches of course).

Oprah: given her personal history, and the amount of time and money she's put into her South African Leadership Academy for Girls, I expect she's very much on the side of Sophie Chandauka. And, I think she saw Harry for the braying, entitled, spoilt white British prince he is before she met him, and MM for the grifter she is the second she set eyes on her. Nothing gets past her. She used them, not the other way round. She has her own agenda (not money, at this point, and not even power: I think she's vested in her personal history and past and going to her grave at peace with herself and her wrongdoers and having set some things right) and neither of H&M figure in it at all. It would be a nail in Harry and Meghan's coffin if Oprah were to sympathetically interview SC, and Oprah knows this. If she does it (I have seen rumours she's in talks), that would be Oprah healing herself. (BTW I've never been an Oprah fan, but my Mum loved her in the 80s and 90s!).

Lunde · 04/04/2025 17:00

MaggieMistletoe · 04/04/2025 09:56

Oprah is as merciless as they come. She'll do whatever is in her best financial interests.

I can't help but wonder whether Harry feels badly about that interview and the timings of it with the end of his grandparents lives. Familial guilt is horrible. I would love a window into his mind to know what his regrets are and why.

The last time I have seen anything about them together was the time last year when Oprah pulled a power move against Meghan at a bookshop opening.

Meghan was giving a speech in full world salad mode (some malarky about bookshops being her place of safety) when Oprah strolls in late. ... not sneaking in the back or scuttling hurriedly to a seat ... Oprah strolls along the front row, blocking Meghan from the audience and saying hi and waving to a few people. Rather than just pause and/or acknowledge Oprah - Meghan tries to just keep ploughing ahead with her book-buying anecdote as she's the most important black woman - right?

You can tell Meghan is pissed off but she cannot yell and tantrum - coz it's Oprah.

A short video was caught by the journalist and writer Elizabeth Holmes and loaded on her Instagram while others got still photos.
https://www.instagram.com/eholmes/reel/C_wMyKsyq6y/

Sentebale #5
HeddaGarbled · 04/04/2025 17:01

At least one of them had made a comeback

Definitely an up-tick since Catherine’s all-clear.

MummyJ12 · 04/04/2025 17:05

RandyRedHumpback · 04/04/2025 14:47

This is Dan Wooten's investigation on the Sussex Squad. I can't stand the bloke, but he has some interesting findings and personal experience.

Thanks for posting this, very interesting. It pretty much backs up my previous post about the SS too!

Lunde · 04/04/2025 17:11

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 04/04/2025 12:56

This is very true. I think he has made Meghan the entire being of his world and personality. I can only presume she's ok with it, because it would be cloying as fuck to me.

He gave up everything to give Meghan the LA life she wanted

  • burned bridges with his family
  • gave up his friends and UK social life
  • gave up his job as a working royal where he was allowed to focus on his interests
  • gave up his home (I think Harry was OK with living in Notts Cottage but Meghan wanted the princess trappings)
  • gave up all of the trappings of a comfortable life to hustle in LA eg housing sorted, £2 million allowance per year, cars, security, domestic staff, clothing and probably a valet to iron them, a staffed office to do all the dull paperwork, polo ponies, daddy's lawyers on speed dial etc etc)

Now he is left following someone else's dream but has little to come back to either.

Lunde · 04/04/2025 17:20

PullTheBricksDown · 04/04/2025 13:40

The issue was living life in the spotlight, which was clearly going to be unavoidable. His previous serious girlfriends had been from rich families themselves so had privilege but without being followed and photographed incessantly. Got to say, if I were Chelsey Davy I wouldn't have made that trade. (This is where William and the RF got really lucky, more than they'll ever know, with Kate, whose family were also wealthy - she could have had a much easier life just doing nothing in obscurity, probably married to someone also rich and unknown like Pippa and her husband.)

If the rich girls Harry met were daunted by the public profile of being married to him, then, I think there were two other options for settling down:
A) someone who shared, in depth, a passion for a cause he supported, though they might not be from his social circle. Eg an activist or charity worker.
B) someone who understood the Intensely public nature of his life and embraced it, possibly because they had some knowledge of it themselves. Eg actress, TV presenter, singer.

My feeling was that Harry thought he'd hit the jackpot with Meghan as she was both A and B. And here we are.

It think that the issue with Meghan is that she bait and switched after the wedding. Harry seemed to think that he was marrying a woman who loved the same things as him - visiting Africa, camping in Botswana, doing lots of charity work for good causes (OK with others doing the hard bits) .... But the reality was that she wanted the billionaire, LA celebrity, merching lifestyle - so that's where he ended up.

wordler · 04/04/2025 17:20

IdaGlossop · 04/04/2025 15:33

Although the common line is that Chelsey Davey and Crrssida Bonas broke made Harry a Haz-been, I think there was another reason: they understood how emotionally needy he is and were mature enough to see that being married to him would be very, very hard work. Brother Wills looks as though he has his moments, raging and needing Catherine to soothe him, but he comes across as quite self-contained and able to manage himself emotionally. Harry by contrast is emotionally incontinent.

William also seems to have the self control not to look sulky or angry in public - we’ve only had anonymous sources talking about his temper - the one video that was out where you could see he was angry was when the pap photographer was stalking them in Norfolk during lockdown and they’d ended up in a country lane with their kids on bikes and no nearby security.

You could tell he was furious that the photographer was lurking around the bushes near the kids but his voice and face were very controlled - there was no raging.

Profhilodisaster · 04/04/2025 17:21

He's been such a fool, with an inflated ego, he really had no idea how much the palace bolstered him .

Profhilodisaster · 04/04/2025 17:29

Good point made on X Daniel Martin (her makeup artist) has made a comment on one of the SS's posts making it one of the few occasions where there is a direct link to her .

MissRoseDurward · 04/04/2025 17:30

Another time W was reported to be (justifiably) furious was over the topless photos of C taken by a pap when they were on a private holiday in France.

Not2identifying · 04/04/2025 17:40

Lunde · 04/04/2025 17:11

He gave up everything to give Meghan the LA life she wanted

  • burned bridges with his family
  • gave up his friends and UK social life
  • gave up his job as a working royal where he was allowed to focus on his interests
  • gave up his home (I think Harry was OK with living in Notts Cottage but Meghan wanted the princess trappings)
  • gave up all of the trappings of a comfortable life to hustle in LA eg housing sorted, £2 million allowance per year, cars, security, domestic staff, clothing and probably a valet to iron them, a staffed office to do all the dull paperwork, polo ponies, daddy's lawyers on speed dial etc etc)

Now he is left following someone else's dream but has little to come back to either.

And he also lost (gave up) public respect and affection. I think he is still reeling in shock at their loss and I also suspect he didn't appreciate them until he lost them.

Not2identifying · 04/04/2025 17:43

I should add I don't blame Meghan for all the things Harry's lost. It was on him to make wise decisions about all these things and 'wisdom' is not something I associate with him...

Snorlaxo · 04/04/2025 17:47

jeffgoldblum · 04/04/2025 15:44

Let’s not forget he cheated on them too!

The drug use was always going to be problematic.

MummyJ12 · 04/04/2025 17:48

Rhaidimiddim · 04/04/2025 16:43

I'm so glad the MSM is finally beginning to acknowledge and report on the SS.

I am too. It’s about time.
I was on that SS thread too and remember that MNHQ wouldn’t allow a second one even though there wasn’t a single post deleted on it. Complete madness.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 04/04/2025 17:49

Lunde · 04/04/2025 17:20

It think that the issue with Meghan is that she bait and switched after the wedding. Harry seemed to think that he was marrying a woman who loved the same things as him - visiting Africa, camping in Botswana, doing lots of charity work for good causes (OK with others doing the hard bits) .... But the reality was that she wanted the billionaire, LA celebrity, merching lifestyle - so that's where he ended up.

Maybe so, but combined with all the stuff you listed that Harry has lost (even if it was willingly given up at the time) it still makes for a really unhealthy dynamic. For both of them. And personally not one that I can see getting better as time goes on (and in case any stray Sussex Squadders are lurking then no, I'm not bloody wishing that on them).

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 04/04/2025 17:52

Not2identifying · 04/04/2025 17:43

I should add I don't blame Meghan for all the things Harry's lost. It was on him to make wise decisions about all these things and 'wisdom' is not something I associate with him...

Yeah, this is my take too.

IcedPurple · 04/04/2025 17:52

Lunde · 04/04/2025 17:20

It think that the issue with Meghan is that she bait and switched after the wedding. Harry seemed to think that he was marrying a woman who loved the same things as him - visiting Africa, camping in Botswana, doing lots of charity work for good causes (OK with others doing the hard bits) .... But the reality was that she wanted the billionaire, LA celebrity, merching lifestyle - so that's where he ended up.

Harry seemed to think that he was marrying a woman who loved the same things as him - visiting Africa, camping in Botswana, doing lots of charity work for good causes (OK with others doing the hard bits)

I'm not sure Harry loved those things either.

How often has he 'visited Africa' when it wasn't for 'work'?

IcedPurple · 04/04/2025 17:53

HeddaGarbled · 04/04/2025 15:43

@Serenster

And on the Kate threads - something that bemused me at the time, and still does, was how many longstanding posters joined in on them along with all the new posters/new names - and then they all just disappeared entirely once the cancer announcement came out. The long-standing posters too. It was just really odd

Yes, overnight, pouf, they were all gone. Made me question what had been going on for the past several years.

I don't think they're gone!

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 04/04/2025 17:55

IcedPurple · 04/04/2025 17:52

Harry seemed to think that he was marrying a woman who loved the same things as him - visiting Africa, camping in Botswana, doing lots of charity work for good causes (OK with others doing the hard bits)

I'm not sure Harry loved those things either.

How often has he 'visited Africa' when it wasn't for 'work'?

Considering he hasn't visited Sentebale once in the last 5/6 years he hasn't been there very much with "work" either.

IcedPurple · 04/04/2025 17:56

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 04/04/2025 17:55

Considering he hasn't visited Sentebale once in the last 5/6 years he hasn't been there very much with "work" either.

No. I don't think he ever had any real interest in 'Africa'. The grey suits set up a cushy little charity for him there and of course he had the occasional glamping trip to Botswana with his latest squeeze. But beyond that I don't think he was bothered.

Not2identifying · 04/04/2025 17:57

One of the more interesting parts of Spare were his descriptions of holidays in southern Africa when he was younger. IIRC he could just suddenly decide he wanted to go and other people would make it happen for him and, of course, the wealthy white owners of the places he stayed would roll out the red carpet for him.

Uricon2 · 04/04/2025 17:58

I can believe William has a bit of a temper (lots do) but being angry about very intrusive pap photos of his wife and a photographer lurking in the bushes when out with the kids is on most peoples "well I would be too" list I think.

He certainly doesn't seem to have the same line in whinging self pity as his brother, at least publically, which is what we see. It annoys me that Harry and his fandom behave like he's the only one who lost their mother tragically, when William was only a couple of years older and had been in a difficult position as her confidante/support. Yes, Harry looked so young and vulnerable at the funeral but so did William with his head down the whole way. He was 15 years old.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 04/04/2025 18:06

IcedPurple · 04/04/2025 17:56

No. I don't think he ever had any real interest in 'Africa'. The grey suits set up a cushy little charity for him there and of course he had the occasional glamping trip to Botswana with his latest squeeze. But beyond that I don't think he was bothered.

And he got some nice holiday pics out of it to cultivate the image, here's the cheeky chappy prince playing football with some children, ooh he's such a scamp. Aww look he's holding a tiny baby, isn't he lovely.

Ten minutes later, H: "right job done. Oft to the polo field".

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 04/04/2025 18:10

IcedPurple · 04/04/2025 17:53

I don't think they're gone!

Edited

I think they're like the Candyman, speak their name 5 times in a row and whoosh... up they pop 😬.

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