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AtIusvue · 30/03/2025 20:56

Rhaidimiddim · 30/03/2025 20:32

Hoo - Washington Post are historically sympathetic to H&M, but not so much in that article.

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Rolling stone too

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/chairwoman-charity-prince-harry-harassment-bullying-1235306614/

Chairwoman of Charity Cofounded by Prince Harry Accuses Him of 'Harassment and Bullying'

The chairwoman of a charity cofounded by Prince Harry accused the former royal of "harassment and bullying at scale" in a pair of new interviews.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/chairwoman-charity-prince-harry-harassment-bullying-1235306614/

RandyRedHumpback · 30/03/2025 20:56

LemonLeaves · 30/03/2025 20:52

Yes it is a red flag - but you're assuming it can only mean one thing; that the new Chair is somehow suspect. You are choosing to ignore the fact that it's equally possible that the Chair is blameless and the rest of the board are suspect. This latter hypothesis has been repeatedly pointed out to you by many posters, me included.

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This ^^

MayaKovskaya · 30/03/2025 20:58

I think maybe people are concerned about his attitude to SC and the accusations of bullying. I didn't know he hadn't even been there for 6 years. It's not like he's busy.

AtIusvue · 30/03/2025 21:01

Meg still posting on Insta……

CathyorClaire · 30/03/2025 21:03

Why is she not providing a detailed account of how the funding is being managed. The latter, would frankly be the top priority for anybody else in her position.

Well Harold's never provided a detailed account of what happened to charitable funds diverted through various bodies and ending up at Travalyst under his sole control which any reasonable person might also consider a priority.

LipglossAlly · 30/03/2025 21:04

As I have said, if SC comes out smelling like a rose that means that the children are receiving the amount of money that they should.

Again, somebody will still have to explain why an ENTIRE board was not happy with her work and why the other founder also decided to leave. What is the reason?
This does not involve only PH.

Spectre8 · 30/03/2025 21:06

AtIusvue · 30/03/2025 21:01

Meg still posting on Insta……

So?

LemonLeaves · 30/03/2025 21:07

LipglossAlly · 30/03/2025 21:04

As I have said, if SC comes out smelling like a rose that means that the children are receiving the amount of money that they should.

Again, somebody will still have to explain why an ENTIRE board was not happy with her work and why the other founder also decided to leave. What is the reason?
This does not involve only PH.

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It's not just about use of funds - it's also about the charity's general management and activities and its reputation. The CC trustee guidance makes clear the responsibilities of trustees, if you read it.

Serenster · 30/03/2025 21:08

Knowing whether these funds( and in what proportion) are going to children with HIV should take priority over who is taking a picture with who.

Having a well-run charity actually takes priority over the charitable aims. The ends don’t justify the means.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 30/03/2025 21:08

AsterTurq · 30/03/2025 17:40

If by “Not the full shilling” you mean “Not all she appears” I think that’s a fair assumption

^ @Ohpleeeease yea thats exactly what I meant! 🙏

That's not what "not the full shilling" means.

9hdtvey54r · 30/03/2025 21:11

LipglossAlly · 30/03/2025 20:51

I will repeat it again, we do not have a full picture of what went down.

There were concerns that were raised, she refused to resign, they decided to leave. This is what we know so far.

Knowing whether these funds( and in what proportion) are going to children with HIV should take priority over who is taking a picture with who.

Knowing what prompted an ENTIRE board to resign and the concerns that were raised on her is of vital importance.

Unfortunately, many charities are not managed efficiently. What happens when we don't have an efficient fund management, is that the amount of money that is actually allocated to children with HIV ,in this particular case, is less than it should be( in an ideal world, one of the things to look out for when donating to a charity should be the efficiency with which the funds are managed, which I believe should be audited and made to be public).

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"...which I believe should be audited and made to be public)."

They are: register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/en/charity-search/-/charity-details/4022923/accounts-and-annual-returns

BemusedAmerican · 30/03/2025 21:13

LipglossAlly · 30/03/2025 20:33

Why are other charities with PH as a patron seem to be doing ok( Invictus in primis), and then suddenly we are having this narrative that PH is apparently "toxic" for Santable?

There is nothing wrong with seeking other patrons/ investors, but the way the whole thing is being handled is just bizarre to me.
Does she really think that gossiping about the high profile founder of the charity and his spouse will endear her to the Bloombergs of the world when it comes to fundraising? Again I am really struggling to understand the endgame.

It would interesting to hear a more detailed account from Prince Lesotho and the other board members.

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Invictus isn't doing OK:

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20231115080850/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12746905/Prince-Harrys-Invictus-Games-thrown-chaos-TWO-chiefs-sacked-insiders-warn-staff-morale-time-low-claim-event-budget-despite-30m-government-grant.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20231115080850/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12746905/Prince-Harrys-Invictus-Games-thrown-chaos-TWO-chiefs-sacked-insiders-warn-staff-morale-time-low-claim-event-budget-despite-30m-government-grant.html

Someone just posted about African Parks.

Archewell issues:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13595335/harry-and-meghans-missing-millions-archewell-foundation-didnt-declare-4million-on-latest-tax-return-as-all-eyes-turn-to-sussexes-upcoming-declaration-with-questions-over-where-money-went.html

Prince Harry's Invictus Games in chaos as TWO top chiefs are 'sacked'

EXCLUSIVE: MailOnline can exclusively reveal that CEO Peter Lawless, a lawyer and arguably Canada's most respected Olympic and Paralympic administrator, has left his job abruptly.

https://web.archive.org/web/20231115080850/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12746905/Prince-Harrys-Invictus-Games-thrown-chaos-TWO-chiefs-sacked-insiders-warn-staff-morale-time-low-claim-event-budget-despite-30m-government-grant.html

Profhilodisaster · 30/03/2025 21:15

I'm no lawyer but even I would think twice before making the accusations that Sophie Chandauka has without solid evidence . I will happily eat my hat if she is wrong.
Given that Harry is partial to suing people, could he take her to court for slander ?

binkie163 · 30/03/2025 21:15

I have only just caught up, my eyes ache. Interview was very professional, she is a woman on a mission. Once a charity is mired in stink it is hard to come back from. That stink was already attached to African parks, one mistake is unfortunate but 2 is careless.

AtIusvue · 30/03/2025 21:17

Spectre8 · 30/03/2025 21:06

So?

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Well if your husband had worldwide headlines detailing accusations of his harassment and bullying……I’m not too sure your first response would be to post cake pics on insta.

MayaKovskaya · 30/03/2025 21:19

Oh dear. Invictus and African Parks as well?

MayaKovskaya · 30/03/2025 21:20

AtIusvue · 30/03/2025 21:01

Meg still posting on Insta……

She needs to, though, doesn't she, @AtIusvue ?
She's got to keep that hostess lifestyle going really.

LipglossAlly · 30/03/2025 21:20

Again, people are acting like PH was the only other person in this charity when as we know there is another founder and a whole board that clearly have issues with with this lady.

We can try to derail the attention to same 5-6 BM talking points and even to MM(????).

However, there is no escaping from this - why did the other founder and the ENTIRE board had such an issue with her that they decided to step down?

Why not provide a detailed account of the charity expenditures and money allocation?

There are all questions that will have to answered to.

9hdtvey54r · 30/03/2025 21:21

LipglossAlly · 30/03/2025 19:06

Again, I would wait for the results of the investigation regarding the mismanagement of Santabale's funds which at the end of the day is the core issue.
Did she mismanaged these funds or not?
Why did an entire board of trustees decided to leave as a result of her not stepping down?
Why is she not providing a detailed account of how the funding is being managed. The latter, would frankly be the top priority for anybody else in her position.

"Why is she not providing a detailed account of how the funding is being managed. The latter, would frankly be the top priority for anybody else in her position."

Because it's publicly available online. https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/en/charity-search/-/charity-details/4022923/accounts-and-annual-returns

Search the register of charities - prd-ds-register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk

Charity details for SENTEBALE - Charity 1113544

https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/en/charity-search/-/charity-details/4022923/accounts-and-annual-returns

LipglossAlly · 30/03/2025 21:24

I think more details around the concerns they had with her managing the funding and behind the ENTIRE board resigning will eventually come out.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 30/03/2025 21:25

AsterTurq · 30/03/2025 18:37

I know what it means, no need to mansplain, I just couldn’t find the right phrase, which I have corrected 3 x now 🙄

And yes you do get very irate and angry threads in MN, it does seem to attract such women 🤷‍♀️. Not all, luckily, but I unfortunately walked into this one.

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How are you defining this thread as "angry"? It seems very balanced to me!

LemonLeaves · 30/03/2025 21:29

LipglossAlly · 30/03/2025 21:20

Again, people are acting like PH was the only other person in this charity when as we know there is another founder and a whole board that clearly have issues with with this lady.

We can try to derail the attention to same 5-6 BM talking points and even to MM(????).

However, there is no escaping from this - why did the other founder and the ENTIRE board had such an issue with her that they decided to step down?

Why not provide a detailed account of the charity expenditures and money allocation?

There are all questions that will have to answered to.

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If they had such serious concerns about her, then why didn't they self-report to the CC? The other trustees are obliged to do so if they believe she is guilty of mismanagement - failure to report would make them just as culpable.

So why haven't they?

LemonLeaves · 30/03/2025 21:31

LipglossAlly · 30/03/2025 21:24

I think more details around the concerns they had with her managing the funding and behind the ENTIRE board resigning will eventually come out.

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At which point, if this turns out to be the case, then the other trustees will have questions to answer on why they didn't report this to the CC at the time, despite their clear legal obligation to do so. And those questions won't just be from journalists or the general public - they'll be from the CC in its capacity as a regulatory body.

Rhaidimiddim · 30/03/2025 21:32

LipglossAlly · 30/03/2025 20:38

To be honest, I don't think that Harry should say anything.

If it is proven that the Board had valid and legitimate concerns over how the funds were managed, that will speak for itself and provide a clearer picture.

Except that he has.
Or didn't you notice his whiney statement on Tues that kicked this whole thing off?

Xenia · 30/03/2025 21:32

It is not in the interests of charity nor anyone involved for any of this to have happened. I think all of them should have avoid the bust up, resignations and the court action that has been brought.