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It was as impartial as it could have been. She was asked direct questions which she answered. Harry’s camp were invited to comment but chose not to.

The focus seems to be on Harry and Megan, as they're easy targets - perhaps the whole system needs questioning if what you're alleging is true about putting 'mates' in position of power etc.

The system is fine as it is, the rules and principles are clear. It’s the abuse of those principles that are at issue. It’s the abuse of their positions by Harry and Meghan that makes them easy targets.

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The focus is on Harry, because it's Sentabele.
Sir Trevor Phillips interview was not in the least biased at all, what's your evidence for that quite strong accusation?

Harry and Meghan are not victims here, and I think it's time people moved away from that narrative. They're not targeted because of who they are, rather what they have done.
Harry is free to appear on Sky and have a similar interview and refute the claims. I hope he does.

Well Harry can't win here - would look terrible if he did appear and some people will think he is guilty if he does not.

As I said it's well know the press don't like Harry and Megan so he would be silly to get involved - it all looks a bit pathetic and the only people who are going to suffer are the people who the charity helps - they would all be best to step away and have a new chair and governance.

I always wonder what it will take for Sussex supporters to say that the Sussexes have made mistakes. If it’s not happening here I don’t think it ever will. They always have to be the wronged ones, the victims. One day I really hope the truth will out.

I am not a supporter I can see that this is bad for the charity whichever way you look at it. It's just so sad.

@glitterturd I more meant that anything about Harry/Sentebale will turn into something about MM.

I do think that Harry is a bit of an idiot and should not have IPP status and the Dr probably has a fair point about the charity but don't think everything should be blamed on MM. Anyway this is my layperson impression. Welcome to be criticised for it :)

Of course he can win. He goes on TP programme and answers questions.
Why do people always say that "Harry can't win"?
He is not a victim. He is a very rich, very privileged white prince. If these are false accusations, he can be an adult and refute them.
Why do people infantilise Harry and claim that he has no agency?

I don't know enough about who the board of trustees but given Trevor Philips known relationship with Dr Sophie Chandauka perhaps we should be questioning the impartiality of that interview.

So you don’t know anything about the length of the Board of trustees relationships with Prince Harry, or indeed what went on at their meetings,but it’s Trevor Phillips who should be scrutinised? I think your bias is clear!

Maybe so - where you involved in the meetings? Have you read the minutes of the meetings?

Just watched the interview. The main points made were that a charity needs to evolve and not stay in the same place. It was set up at a time when AIDS was the overwhelming need. Now the charity's scope has extended to a much greater field. It was also explained why the charity was set up the way it was because of Harry's youth and inexperience and it hasn't moved on from then and needs to. The longevity of board members was addressed too as well as the low attendance of one of the others who criticised her 😬. The use of Netflix film crews was talked about and how it affected even the location of the polo event in Miami to its detriment. Then there is the request to issue the statement that Meghan wasn't being a mean girl. Basically the Sussexes since leaving the UK had had a negative effect on the charity's sponsors and image.

I really don't know. It's strange, as if they're children, or innocent victims of some malevolent force, instead of wealthy, privileged, royalty who ought to take responsibility for what they are involved in.
If Harry has no blame in this, fine. He should speak out.

The two of them are inextricably linked however and it seems that Harry will do anything to promote her.

As I said it's well know the press don't like Harry and Megan so he would be silly to get involved

Harry has gotten involved, he is the one who went to the press about this, he issued a very dramatic and emotive press statement. His trustees have gone to the media and given interviews, no doubt sanctioned by Harry.

So the black woman has to shut her mouth and say nothing, is that what you are saying.

No that isn't what I'm saying at all and I think most reasonable people would realise that.

She can do what she likes. But sadly, I do believe that does not play out well for the charity. They should all step away and let an independent investigation take place if what she has alleged has been happening. Trial by media is never a good thing.

That is what is going to be happening@privatenonamegiven

What a shitshow.

There’s so much out there now, you have to wonder who, and what, Harry and Meghan really think they are.

Trial by media? When a woman gives an interview?

If Harry has no blame in this, fine. He should speak out

No chance at all, @MayaKovskaya, unless the speaking involves briefing behind the scenes

For a start he clearly hasn't the wit required for an incisive interview with a reputable reporter, and if he blames Ms Cahndauka for anything that could instantly be framed as "attacking a defenceless black woman who's only doing her best"

In that sense it's probably true that he "can't win", but then if his general behaviour had beeen better he wouldn't be in this mess in the first place

No. But several clear allegations were made by Ms Chandauka today:

Many of the Board had been in their roles since the charity was founded, nearly 19 years ago, in breach of principles of good governance
One of the Board members was a personal appointee of Prince Seeiso, but rarely attended meetings
The Board was aware that several donors - corporate, families and individuals - had ceased their relationship with the charity since 2020 but had never discussed this because it would be awkward.
Prince Harry was prone to acting capriciously - he engineered the appointment of a new Board member ad hoc at a meeting, completely ignoring the process for doing so.
Harry also placed Sentabale in an awkward position when he sought to use a fundraising polo tournament as content for his Netflix polo show, which he was personally benefitting from, and left it to the charity to manage his conflict of interest.
Harry asked Ms Chandauka to make a public statement supporting his wife - who was unconnected with the charity - after the tournament.
Ms Chandauka was frequently subject to verbal bullying and attempts to undermine her at Board meetings.

So she has come out with detailed a specific allegations which, if proven, (and these look like factual issues that could be proven without too much difficulty) would demonstrate the charity was poorly run. It’s yet to be seen if these allegations are proven, but Ms Chandauka has put herself up for an interview by a respected journalist and said she has proof of her allegations.

In response, she has been met with smears and no comments.

A simple question, who started the trial by media, whose statement was first leaked and I can guarantee none of the answers are Trevor Philip.

I agree it is a sad time for the charity and it has made things difficult for the charity, but the Chair had every right to challenge the Sussex PR machine who have been in overdrive to discredit her.

She made her court application weeks ago and the first anyone knew of it was when Harry announced it to the media.

Not at all. The charity is undergoing modernisation and all transformation processes have teething issues, the dirt gets rinsed out in the wash. The Sussex brand is bad news for this charity, donors were not donating any longer because of harry and the board was sucking up to the prince and his duchess. IThis suggests a corrupt dynamic.

I'm not particularly interested in who started it. What is of a bigger concern is the knock on effects to this charities and others.

It needs to be investigated in proper manner and both sides running to the media is not good in my opinion.

I have watched the interview. Dr C seems to me credible. She is well informed both about charity governance and events at Sentebale. What interests me is Ian Rawlinson. The presence of a middle-aged, middle-class white man in the presence of a black chairperson and a black interviewer is a sharp way to shut down those crying 'wokery'. There are plenty below the line in The Times.

While I do not agree with the Sussex Squad accusation that Rawlinson is a Prince William plant, I do wonder if he got involved through loyalty to PW and the wider Royal family in order to limit the damage, and will be quietly updating them behind the scenes. There are three options. The charity can be saved, it can be re-estalished, or it will have to be shut down. It is doing good work and I hope it can be saved. Yet again, the combination of dim, entitled, besotted Harry and greedy, self-obsessed Meghan proves disastrous for Harry.