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Sentebale #2

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Words · 29/03/2025 12:59

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thinktwice36 · 30/03/2025 09:47

Becoming ever more apparent how the palace machinery, far from damaging Harry, was protecting him from the shit show he makes of himself.

Onestopshop11 · 30/03/2025 09:48

Further scrutiny would be given to large financial transactions which took place in any period directly before insolvency. The accounts are due by 30 April and will make an interesting read.

MayaKovskaya · 30/03/2025 09:49

thinktwice36 · 30/03/2025 09:47

Becoming ever more apparent how the palace machinery, far from damaging Harry, was protecting him from the shit show he makes of himself.

Of course they were! Yet he's slagged them off, time and again. Arrogant fool.

PippistrelleBat · 30/03/2025 09:50

Onestopshop11 · 30/03/2025 09:43

The Charity Commission does not allow payments to trustees for their work as trustees. Paying a trustee for other professional work would initially be presumed to create a conflict of interest, it is almost impossible to mitigate here. The ‘usual’ process would be for the trustee to step down either permanently or for the period of the paid contract. The question is what the activities Dr C wanted to be paid for. Whatever services these were should have been part of an open tender prices for these services with Dr C having no involvement in the tender and supplier selection process. A similar process should have taken place before commissioning fundraising consultants at $500,000. These will will form part of the CC investigation.

A trustee would not need to step down as trustee, other than for those agenda items where they are being paid. Though it couldn’t work for the chair though as their conflict would include the inclusion of said agenda items and management of the rest of the meeting around that agenda item.

AtIusvue · 30/03/2025 09:51

MummyJ12 · 30/03/2025 09:46

Apologies if this point has already been made as I’ve sped through the thread trying to catch up!

I noted during Dt Sophie Chandauka’s Sky interview that she had been asked by the Sussex PR machine to put out something to counter negative coverage of Meghan. It doesn’t have to be a wild guess that this was about the polo photo debacle. She refused. It reminded me of the wheelchair incident during the Invictus Games, where Meghan was clearly out of order again but the lady concerned spoke out to counter the negative publicity. She was obviously made to do this. How many other times has this happened? Meghan’s fan club have always then come on here and posted “I told you it wasn’t an issue”. How many other times has the Sussex PR machine harassed and bullied people into releasing untruths to protect them?

Those that defended them for the LAFire tours. That young girl who set up a charity.

Gavin Newsom, defending them over Archewell.

Crew on WLM who spoke to how great it was to work with her at people.

Archewell staff who spoke to US weekly to say what a great boss she was after the bullying allegations from the HR.

List goes on

StartupRepair · 30/03/2025 09:52

The Uvalde people.

Ohpleeeease · 30/03/2025 09:53

AtIusvue · 30/03/2025 09:33

If PH is found to have been involved with the mismanagement of Sentebale, what does that mean for him?

He wasn’t a trustee, he was a patron.

Could the CC limit his work with Invictus and other charities?

No, the CC is only concerned with the trustees. All roads lead to them. He is blissfully unaccountable.

AtIusvue · 30/03/2025 09:57

Yes, they said in the interview. The way the charity was structured was to help a 19 yr old PH….lots of old hands to guide Harry.

But that things never changed. Trustees there for 19 years.

But of course they never changed….because Harry never grew up. He’s a spoiled man baby, that needs everything done for him.

He couldn’t handle a board that actually ran the charity properly. Not as his little vanity project.

Weepixie · 30/03/2025 09:57

I expect the Royal Family are feeling a sad kind of vindication right now

I wonder if they’re keeping up the fiasco or if they aren’t paying it any attention because they just cant face seeing him in such a mess?

You can get to stage with a child who’s his or her own worse enemy where you just don’t want to know anymore about what’s going on but it doesn’t stop you loving them or caring about them.

AtIusvue · 30/03/2025 09:59

Ohpleeeease · 30/03/2025 09:53

No, the CC is only concerned with the trustees. All roads lead to them. He is blissfully unaccountable.

Thanks

Weepixie · 30/03/2025 09:59

Ohpleeeease · 30/03/2025 09:53

No, the CC is only concerned with the trustees. All roads lead to them. He is blissfully unaccountable.

So it was never going to be a case one day where he could stand up and say, the buck stops here?

Onestopshop11 · 30/03/2025 10:03

PippistrelleBat · 30/03/2025 09:50

A trustee would not need to step down as trustee, other than for those agenda items where they are being paid. Though it couldn’t work for the chair though as their conflict would include the inclusion of said agenda items and management of the rest of the meeting around that agenda item.

Dr C is Chair absolutely no option, the rest of Trustees it best practice versus absolute minimum standard of accountability which could be questioned in case of a report to CC. My advice to Trustee would be to step down to avoid any possible challenge in event of a dispute.

Ohpleeeease · 30/03/2025 10:04

This is a glowing example, if one were needed, as to why royals need to be kept on a tight rein. Their profile and status means they have undue influence in areas like this and the consequences when they go rogue are extremely damaging. They need wise heads around them to guide them through the pitfalls. Harry has none of these.

Thr interview was fascinating. SC came across very well, quite a force to be reckoned with. The trustees evidently valued her skills if they voted her in as chair. So what changed?

SirHoglet · 30/03/2025 10:07

Weepixie · 30/03/2025 09:57

I expect the Royal Family are feeling a sad kind of vindication right now

I wonder if they’re keeping up the fiasco or if they aren’t paying it any attention because they just cant face seeing him in such a mess?

You can get to stage with a child who’s his or her own worse enemy where you just don’t want to know anymore about what’s going on but it doesn’t stop you loving them or caring about them.

I can imagine Carol Middleton having a little chuckle to herself. Well deserved too.

IAmATorturedPoet · 30/03/2025 10:07

AtIusvue · 30/03/2025 09:02

If he behaved like this at Sentebale….then he must do the same at Invictus

Not wanting to detract from the Dr SC and Sentebale but it’s interesting to revisit previous articles on Invictus, this one from Nov 23:

(Dominic Reid, PH right hand man then also left approx 8 months later).

For those that don’t want to click on the link, key text posted.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12746905/Prince-Harrys-Invictus-Games-thrown-chaos-TWO-chiefs-sacked-insiders-warn-staff-morale-time-low-claim-event-budget-despite-30m-government-grant.html

But MailOnline can exclusively reveal that CEO Peter Lawless, a lawyer and arguably Canada's most respected Olympic and Paralympic administrator, has left his job abruptly.
An insider has claimed that Mr Lawless, who was awarded the Diamond Jubilee Medal by Harry's grandmother the Queen in 2012, was fired and morale amongst staff is now 'at an all time low'. An Invictus Games spokesman declined to comment on whether he was sacked, instead saying he had been 'transitioned out' and was 'no longer an employee' but will remain an ambassador

Also leaving the Vancouver-Whistler team is Bill Cooper, who was in the role of Chief Commercial Officer for ten months until he left in October. He has thanked colleagues for their support after several praised his 'grace' and accused Invictus 2025 of making a big mistake by getting rid of him.

One Games volunteer said that staff are 'concerned that these recent moves will again overshadow this incredible event for our veterans'. They also raised concerns that the Sussexes' security and other costs may put a strain on Games finances if Invictus 2025 has to pick up the bill.

The whistleblower said: 'CEO Peter Lawless and Chief Commercial Officer Bill Cooper were dismissed for no apparent reason.

The volunteer claims that the departure of the CEO and the Chief Commercial Officer has caused disquiet internally.
He said: 'As you can expect, the morale among the staff and volunteers is at an all-time low, and Prince Harry and his wife have become a significant distraction with all their troubles.

Onestopshop11 · 30/03/2025 10:09

Ohpleeeease · 30/03/2025 09:53

No, the CC is only concerned with the trustees. All roads lead to them. He is blissfully unaccountable.

Yes indeed whatever the outcome a Patron is an honary post PH is not a Trustee and not accountable the Charity Commission.

AtIusvue · 30/03/2025 10:13

IAmATorturedPoet · 30/03/2025 10:07

Not wanting to detract from the Dr SC and Sentebale but it’s interesting to revisit previous articles on Invictus, this one from Nov 23:

(Dominic Reid, PH right hand man then also left approx 8 months later).

For those that don’t want to click on the link, key text posted.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12746905/Prince-Harrys-Invictus-Games-thrown-chaos-TWO-chiefs-sacked-insiders-warn-staff-morale-time-low-claim-event-budget-despite-30m-government-grant.html

But MailOnline can exclusively reveal that CEO Peter Lawless, a lawyer and arguably Canada's most respected Olympic and Paralympic administrator, has left his job abruptly.
An insider has claimed that Mr Lawless, who was awarded the Diamond Jubilee Medal by Harry's grandmother the Queen in 2012, was fired and morale amongst staff is now 'at an all time low'. An Invictus Games spokesman declined to comment on whether he was sacked, instead saying he had been 'transitioned out' and was 'no longer an employee' but will remain an ambassador

Also leaving the Vancouver-Whistler team is Bill Cooper, who was in the role of Chief Commercial Officer for ten months until he left in October. He has thanked colleagues for their support after several praised his 'grace' and accused Invictus 2025 of making a big mistake by getting rid of him.

One Games volunteer said that staff are 'concerned that these recent moves will again overshadow this incredible event for our veterans'. They also raised concerns that the Sussexes' security and other costs may put a strain on Games finances if Invictus 2025 has to pick up the bill.

The whistleblower said: 'CEO Peter Lawless and Chief Commercial Officer Bill Cooper were dismissed for no apparent reason.

The volunteer claims that the departure of the CEO and the Chief Commercial Officer has caused disquiet internally.
He said: 'As you can expect, the morale among the staff and volunteers is at an all-time low, and Prince Harry and his wife have become a significant distraction with all their troubles.

Such a good point!
This is a pattern of behaviour.

Tourist29 · 30/03/2025 10:14

BemusedAmerican · 29/03/2025 22:25

Well, if it's true they both read the NY Post and Page Six...

I'm hoping that Kate posts a video of the whole family making breakfast quiche for UK Mother's Day.

I can’t be the only one thinking ‘revenge is a dish best served cold - and by someone else’

Rhaidimiddim · 30/03/2025 10:15

PippistrelleBat · 29/03/2025 23:48

I don’t think we call rule out her wanting to pursue a strategy/approach at odds with that preferred by the other trustees. A disagreement over direction does not mean either side is wrong.

My point was that attributing a serious professional move to hurt feelings due to a podium spat is rather misogynistic - Look at the girls falling out!

AtIusvue · 30/03/2025 10:16

So Harry ran the charity how he wanted, everyone had to capitulate, his behaviour led to sponsorships to dry up but he isn’t accountable to the CC?

Trustees at Invictus should think….is it really worth it if it leaves them in the firing line for carrying out Harry’s demands?

PullTheBricksDown · 30/03/2025 10:16

The number of Sussex employees who have left their posts 'abruptly' and / or earlier than expected, both before and after their exit from royal life, is now a well established pattern. Either it is very difficult for otherwise competent and well regarded people to work with them, or they are unbelievably unlucky.

Serenster · 30/03/2025 10:19

Xenia · 30/03/2025 09:39

This seems to sum up how the Prince's and MM's mixing of commercial and charitable ended up causing the charity problems.

" "About a month before the event was about to take place, Prince Harry called the team and said, "I'm doing a Netflix show, and I would love to bring a camera crew so that I can include some footage in this show,"' she said.
'And so the team called me and told me, "Oh, Prince Harry's made this request, so we're doing the things".
'I said, you can't be doing the things without seeking consent from the property owners, the sponsors, all the guests. Nobody signed up to being on a Netflix show.'
She added: 'We come up with draft agreements and of course, the venue owner says this is now a commercial undertaking. So here are my terms. We couldn't afford it. So now we lost the venue.' "

Rich people attending charitable events are not happy to be filmed by all and sundry including Netflix.

She was 100% right about this, by the way. And doing it as Harry wanted - the event taking place with no-one knowing in advance that it was being filmed to be exploited by Harry for his personal financial gain - would have been utterly disastrous for the charity's reputation.

RandyRedHumpback · 30/03/2025 10:26

Mylovelygreendress · 30/03/2025 09:47

I wonder how Harry will spin this to be William’s fault ?

Their squad online are already doing this. Sophie Chandauka and the Rawlinson chap are William plants. She got an MBE (years ago) in order to do the bidding of the RF years later to try to destroy Harry. You know, the usual batshit.

AtIusvue · 30/03/2025 10:29

At African Parks, he is a board member . Hopefully he will be held accountable there.

Harrys charity endeavours are over in Africa though. It just looks so bad. Has done for years.

Thedom · 30/03/2025 10:30

AtIusvue · 30/03/2025 09:33

If PH is found to have been involved with the mismanagement of Sentebale, what does that mean for him?

He wasn’t a trustee, he was a patron.

Could the CC limit his work with Invictus and other charities?

If anything is proven, I think it is the trustees who will be held to account, as they were the ones doing the bidding for Harry rather than ensuring proper governance of the charity.

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