Sentebale #2

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Second thread .

They would never be able to stand up to that type of scrutiny, I think Harry will probably give an interview at some point, but there will be weeks of coaching and practising to be able to answer chosen questions,

All along they have blurred the boundary between charity and commerce and this is an egregious example of it.

Yes, that was awful, wasn't it? He doesn't come across well in his treatment of women. KC reportedly called M "tungsten", because she was so tough and put up with stuff that other women didn't.

Chickens coming home to roost springs to mind right now.

All their previous behaviour and much of it caught on camera means a lot of people won't be willing to give H and M the benefit of the doubt. Those polo videos from last year were already bad, but with the information now coming out, they look even worse.

Good for SC on calling them out, they have been enabled for too long. I have no doubt someone as intelligent and credible as she is wouldn't be doing this if she couldn't prove absolutely everything.

H and M are finished, and it's about bloody time. I just hope Sentebale and Invictus can be salvaged, but Harry needs to step away from both completely for that to happen.

Yes, and motivated by greed. If they had been genuine hard working philanthropists who lived sustainably and modestly (notwithstanding the security costs which aren’t their fault), I think they would get a lot more sympathy and respect. There’s nothing they won’t merch and all because they intrinsically think they’re better than everyone else and feel entitled to accolades and a billionaire lifestyle.

Seesio's cousin not showing up for board meetings, not contributing when he did and then giving an interview about what he claimed never happened..

Sounds like she has all the receipts and I guess the minute she suspected she was being thrown under the bus she began collecting her evidence.

I think Harry, Seesio and the trustees totally underestimated what could happen when Harry issued that statement, like everything he is clueless about the repercussions of using the media to manipulate and air his grievances. .

^This. It's coming to bite them in the arse now though. Hopefully the Californian Duchess and H will no longer get away with their immoral games.

Yes, and they've underestimated SC.

I am wondering about this too… wondering if nobody dares tell him that these things are not done in this way, and then ending up with a bigger mess because it wasn’t stopped earlier. Had PH been a regular person in a charity who announced he was bringing in some commercial outfit to a charity fundraiser event, surely the other members in the board would have said ‘mate, that’s a blatant conflict of interest, absolutely no way’.

Im guessing that the opening of doors to PH (who is quite out of touch with the real world) has also opened many unsuitable doors that others would not have walked through.

As always, I’m enjoying reading about everyone’s insights into this.

If PH is found to have been involved with the mismanagement of Sentebale, what does that mean for him?

He wasn’t a trustee, he was a patron.

Could the CC limit his work with Invictus and other charities?

Good questions. H seems to have had a lifetime of blaming others for his choices, and particularly so in the last few years. He is very intractable and very defensive.

The toxic brand comment must sting hard. Not great timing for M&H. As ever.

They would never allow it. The closest they got was when Tom Brady asked H about the racism comments they mentioned in the Oprah interview and H just shut it down with no we never said that the British press did.

Yes, that's true, and H seemed very angry that Bradby had dared to ask!

She’s not hiding behind ‘sources’ or PR agents, she’s going out there herself for the world to see.

That's her strength, I think. She's being very direct and fielding questions.

Where are all the posters who don't follow the royal family or care about Meghan, but who hate bullying of black women? I would have expected this discussion to be right up their street.

This seems to sum up how the Prince's and MM's mixing of commercial and charitable ended up causing the charity problems.

" "About a month before the event was about to take place, Prince Harry called the team and said, "I'm doing a Netflix show, and I would love to bring a camera crew so that I can include some footage in this show,"' she said.
'And so the team called me and told me, "Oh, Prince Harry's made this request, so we're doing the things".
'I said, you can't be doing the things without seeking consent from the property owners, the sponsors, all the guests. Nobody signed up to being on a Netflix show.'
She added: 'We come up with draft agreements and of course, the venue owner says this is now a commercial undertaking. So here are my terms. We couldn't afford it. So now we lost the venue.' "

Rich people attending charitable events are not happy to be filmed by all and sundry including Netflix.

The Charity Commission does not allow payments to trustees for their work as trustees. Paying a trustee for other professional work would initially be presumed to create a conflict of interest, it is almost impossible to mitigate here. The ‘usual’ process would be for the trustee to step down either permanently or for the period of the paid contract. The question is what the activities Dr C wanted to be paid for. Whatever services these were should have been part of an open tender prices for these services with Dr C having no involvement in the tender and supplier selection process. A similar process should have taken place before commissioning fundraising consultants at $500,000. These will will form part of the CC investigation.

He is fast losing the last links to the Royal world…the one in which he could behave like this at Sentebale….where others were there to fulfil his wishes not further the charity.

The people that he has around him, the older, posh brits, who pay deference….they won’t be around forever. I’ve noticed he still likes to hire brits. He struggles otherwise.

It’s prob why he struggled so much with NF and Spotify. He isn’t used to being treated like a normal person.

The Queen could see how all this would pan out, hence the No to half in half out. She was right. It only took 5 years to happen.

I expect the Royal Family are feeling a sad kind of vindication right now.

The mistake for the pair of them was to believe their own hype. That the crowds were there cheering for them, not because they were royal. That the wedding was special because of her, not his status.
Hubris.

Apologies if this point has already been made as I’ve sped through the thread trying to catch up!

I noted during Dt Sophie Chandauka’s Sky interview that she had been asked by the Sussex PR machine to put out something to counter negative coverage of Meghan. It doesn’t have to be a wild guess that this was about the polo photo debacle. She refused. It reminded me of the wheelchair incident during the Invictus Games, where Meghan was clearly out of order again but the lady concerned spoke out to counter the negative publicity. She was obviously made to do this. How many other times has this happened? Meghan’s fan club have always then come on here and posted “I told you it wasn’t an issue”. How many other times has the Sussex PR machine harassed and bullied people into releasing untruths to protect them?

@MummyJ12 - I'm wondering, now, too.

I wonder how Harry will spin this to be William’s fault ?