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The royal family

As Ever #3 As If

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 23/02/2025 22:38

Another thread to discuss the rebranding of ARO and the merchandising of With Love, Meghan

Part 2: www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5278062-as-ever-2-whatever

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MaggieMistletoe · 26/02/2025 17:03

OSU · 26/02/2025 14:19

Perhaps Tyler fancies Meghan and has his eye on the long game

She's only ever dated white men as far as I know.

ThePoshUns · 26/02/2025 17:36

Isn't Tyler a friend of Diddy? Was he hoping that by cosying up to Royalty he would bolster his image?

MissRoseDurward · 26/02/2025 17:41

My mother was at these meetings as a plus-one, and contented herself with observing that she had flawless skin!

I saw the Queen once in RL, when she would have been middle-aged and she did have a beautiful complexion.

One story I read: Before Saudi women were allowed to drive, there was some Saudi dignitary visiting Balmoral. She asked if he'd like a tour of the estate, to which he pretty much had to say yes.

They put him in a Land Rover and the Queen herself took the wheel and took him on a white knuckle drive around the estate. Point very much made.

User14March · 26/02/2025 17:47

@MissRoseDurward I love her even more. It’s the grace, class & strength of character! Thanks for sharing.

MissFenellaPrism · 26/02/2025 17:53

MissRoseDurward · 26/02/2025 17:41

My mother was at these meetings as a plus-one, and contented herself with observing that she had flawless skin!

I saw the Queen once in RL, when she would have been middle-aged and she did have a beautiful complexion.

One story I read: Before Saudi women were allowed to drive, there was some Saudi dignitary visiting Balmoral. She asked if he'd like a tour of the estate, to which he pretty much had to say yes.

They put him in a Land Rover and the Queen herself took the wheel and took him on a white knuckle drive around the estate. Point very much made.

I love that story. Point made.

Mightymoog · 26/02/2025 17:57

MissRoseDurward · 26/02/2025 17:41

My mother was at these meetings as a plus-one, and contented herself with observing that she had flawless skin!

I saw the Queen once in RL, when she would have been middle-aged and she did have a beautiful complexion.

One story I read: Before Saudi women were allowed to drive, there was some Saudi dignitary visiting Balmoral. She asked if he'd like a tour of the estate, to which he pretty much had to say yes.

They put him in a Land Rover and the Queen herself took the wheel and took him on a white knuckle drive around the estate. Point very much made.

surely a white knuckle ride implies you're being reckless/ scary driving so probably reinforced his view that women couldn't be trusted to drive sensibly/

smilesy · 26/02/2025 18:02

…and once sorted herself out in the Highlands when her Landrover started to have problems

😳😳😳
😂

BemusedAmerican · 26/02/2025 18:02

My reaction to H & M 's home decor was that it looked as though they walked into a store, or possibly clicked on a web page, and simply bought everything in the display room. It has no personality. There are no pictures or pieces of art thst someone bought just because they liked it.

The kitchen also really bland. I like to cook and have friends and family who like to cook. We all have small kitchens because we don't have money but they are used and show the personality of the cook. Everyone has a pot that they love and use even though it's old, and a preferred way of making coffee or tea.

I read "Spare" and my reaction was that Harry treated Not Cott like a dorm and had no sense of aesthetics. I look at the Montecito place and my reaction is that it would look a thousand times better if I owned it. However, since the upkeep is enormous and Montecito sounds really boring, I don't want to live in it. Poor house. Definitely not aspirational.

Weepixie · 26/02/2025 18:17

surely a white knuckle ride implies you're being reckless/ scary driving so probably reinforced his view that women couldn't be trusted to drive sensibly

I read the original version of the story many moons ago when it first happened and the Saudi dignitary was hanging on for dear life during the drive but not because of the Queens driving. He was afraid because he was being driven by a woman.

The story was originally told by the staff member who accompanied them on the trip.

Ohpleeeease · 26/02/2025 19:20

CoffeeCantata · 26/02/2025 16:06

I might get flamed for saying this but I've thought it for a very long time. I don't think Meghan identifies with black American culture at all. Yes, I know there will have been societal pressure on her in the film/TV world to fit into a stereotype but in so many ways (changing her appearance -nose job, hair etc) and in writing 'Caucasian' on her ID, she seems to deny her black heritage.

I don't think she had any input in the choice of black performers at her wedding. As pps have said - that was Charles, trying to be inclusive and welcoming. I would imagine the preacher was totally out of Meghan's experience! And some people have asked, regarding the upcoming show, where the black 'friends' are. Haven't seen anything myself, but I've seen comments about the lack of diversity there.

There is a lot of evidence to support this, for example her own story about not knowing which “box” to tick in a diversity questionnaire. How could she not know which box applied to her? (Answer: of course she knew).

There’s no judgement from me whatsoever for picking the lane that made life easier for her. I have no idea what prejudices she may have run into as a biracial actress, or in life generally. But it’s a bit rich to then lambast your in-laws for having conversations about “skin tones” when you’ve shown that you yourself have such an issue with it.

LivelyMintViper · 26/02/2025 19:42

Maybe if she had more contact with black culture she would understand that wondering about a child's potential skin colour is quite common. Similarly eye colour, hair colour

MissFenellaPrism · 26/02/2025 19:46

LivelyMintViper · 26/02/2025 19:42

Maybe if she had more contact with black culture she would understand that wondering about a child's potential skin colour is quite common. Similarly eye colour, hair colour

Indeed. It happens in every family.
Also, maybe don't lie about her child not inheriting a title because of his heritage.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 26/02/2025 20:20

Ohpleeeease · 26/02/2025 19:20

There is a lot of evidence to support this, for example her own story about not knowing which “box” to tick in a diversity questionnaire. How could she not know which box applied to her? (Answer: of course she knew).

There’s no judgement from me whatsoever for picking the lane that made life easier for her. I have no idea what prejudices she may have run into as a biracial actress, or in life generally. But it’s a bit rich to then lambast your in-laws for having conversations about “skin tones” when you’ve shown that you yourself have such an issue with it.

I always thought it was very sweet that Thomas created a custom made mixed race Barbie family for Meghan by buying all black and all white sets and then taking them apart to make a family that looked like her own. People give Thomas a lot of shit but he did seem like a loving, doting father.

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Ohpleeeease · 26/02/2025 20:22

LivelyMintViper · 26/02/2025 19:42

Maybe if she had more contact with black culture she would understand that wondering about a child's potential skin colour is quite common. Similarly eye colour, hair colour

As in any family, of whatever heritage. There is something fascinating about growing a new human being who is a blend of genes from two separate families. I don’t see how anyone could be offended by that.

MissFenellaPrism · 26/02/2025 20:28

They weren't, Harry talks about genes and colouring and discusses the appearance of his children, often referring to his red hair, the Spencer genes, and Meghan's colouring.
Yet more hypocrisy.

DuchessOfPort · 26/02/2025 20:29

I’m definitely repeating myself but the only time I have ever thought Meghan was remotely articulate was her essay / article for American Elle in 2015 on growing up with a black mother and a white father. Everything else has been bollocks, but it was quite good.

either way, poor Doria. Then, and just generally. I bet she’s on eggshells.

NotaRealHousewife · 26/02/2025 20:30

LivelyMintViper · 26/02/2025 19:42

Maybe if she had more contact with black culture she would understand that wondering about a child's potential skin colour is quite common. Similarly eye colour, hair colour

She understood perfectly well, however, that didn't suit her agenda

Ohpleeeease · 26/02/2025 20:31

I think Doria is a tough nut actually. She’ll be ok.

Ohpleeeease · 26/02/2025 20:35

I don’t believe Meghan has an obligation to acknowledge her black heritage if she doesn’t want to. That’s one area which does make me uncomfortable tbh. She has chosen to identify herself in a particular way and that’s ok.

It’s the projecting of her own reservations onto others that I struggle with.

DuchessOfPort · 26/02/2025 20:39

Doria’s definitely tough but she could be ditched like everyone else if she says anything that gets taken the wrong way and it would be very hurtful. I wish they would take a leaf out of her book and just live quietly, enjoying the millions that Harry inherited and has no doubt been wisely invested the last 3 decades. I do not get why they can’t live happily with their family off the proceeds of tens of millions of pounds. Enjoy the fact no one knows anything about them. Meghan’s desire for fame and riches when you think of her infamy and wealthy husband, is extraordinarily bonkers!

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CathyorClaire · 26/02/2025 20:48

People who knew Prince Philip spoke of his huge range of interests and depth of knowledge and how liked to meet and talk with experts. He was ahead of his time in understandng the importance of wildlife conservation, environmental issues, and the need to keep up with technological advances.

Strange then he wasn't averse to potting the odd tiger, croc or deer and presumably approved of the artificial manipulation of heathland to create the ideal conditions for grouse shooting.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 26/02/2025 20:49

I like Doria. Classy enough to dress up for a royal wedding but authentic and true to herself, she wore a nose piercing as well. She always comes across as loving, warm, strong and classy. Meghan could learn a lot from her mother.

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Treeleaf11 · 26/02/2025 20:53

If they lived a quieter life more anonymous life they could cut their expenses down and live on the millions they have. Reduce the staff nannies/security/pr people/lawyers expensive wardrobes/travel, get a smaller house etc. But they don't want the quiet life.

CathyorClaire · 26/02/2025 20:56

It’s annoying isn’t it, that the Queen is often described as only averagely intelligent at best.

We can certainly give her credit for an unwavering eye on 'the firm's' interests and never putting them last.

CathyorClaire · 26/02/2025 21:05

If they lived a quieter life more anonymous life they could cut their expenses down and live on the millions they have

Aren't the millions they have reserved for the kids to squander?

The subtext is and always has been they want the plebs little people to get their underwriting shoes on and stomp. IMO as ever.

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