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WTF Ghana? Just why?

@Ohpleeeease I think re the travel ( William and George ) it is protocol when he reaches 12 he doesn't fly with his father. But for private family trips - especially if they are travelling commercial I am sure Kate and William could take different flights with the children so George isn't travelling alone.

One thing I do wonder is how much pressure M feels ahead of her With Love series , given apart from the documentary it seems like they haven't had another Netflix hit. Do you think they may have or may pitch their "royal tours " . It is rumoured that "insiders say" they will not have the contract renewed but who knows - if Love Meghan is a huge hit then mayhap not.

William and George plus other 2 direct heirs travelling together imo is a big no no. Or at the very least have Kate with Charlotte on a separate flight.

Why is it protocol from 12 upwards - clearly the risk of incident doesn't dramatically increase after 12? I can understand the logistics of a overseas tour would be a pain and increased cost if you had to travel as say PW (alone) and Catherine and George (as a baby) on two different flights not only to the destination but internal flights thereafter but yeah, all 5 of them on one flight does seem more eek now.

Agree . Especially when you think about the result .
Anyway , a bit morbid so hope they have a lovely holiday .

@IcedPurple

.Lots of people way richer and more famous than them fly commercial though. Harry regularly did it as a royal.

I’m well aware of that, I flew in the airline world for many years and often had the rich, famous and occasional Royal in the aircraft,..but (general point) over recent years lot the high rollers have tended to move to private jets, especially if it speeds up getting from A to B, which can happen if A and/or B are smaller airports. That’s one of the reasons why in recent years many airlines have taken First Class off a lot of their aircraft/some routes….a lot of the high spending travellers have migrated…

….And it's not like either of them have hectic schedules which would make commercial routes awkward for them. Not to mention, that the IG is a charity event, so extravagance like this feels a bit off, especially if there are suspicions that it was paid for out of the charity's funds.

Absolutely agree with that - they seem to want to travel in the manner seen in the fictional world of Billionares” or “Succession”, which doesn’t seem at all appropriate given the context and it’s not clear how it’s being funded.

...nodding...

I totally agree. Whilst travel by commercial airline is statistically very safe, it's hard not to think about all the recent crashes in the US, as well as the chance of them being targeted by nutters from the SS or some other group.

I'm assuming by 12 they are deemed old enough not to be frightened about traveling without a parent.

The traveling together protocol is reminding me of Spare, and Harry getting completely wrong the events that unfolded when his great grandmother died. He claimed he was alone in school and was told of her passing by a schoolmaster. The reality is that he was on a ski holiday with his dad and brother and his dad told him. The reason why I mention it is that all three of them travelled home to the UK together - which would have been an unprecedented/unusual event for Harry and William, because their grandmother had forbidden such joint travel. So it's strange that he completely forgot what really happened.

I think the old rules about not flying together were written in the days when the stats around commercial aviation were nothing like as good as they are now, but yes I get the concerns..I’d not be too worried about the SS and others certainly not on/around the aircraft.

Someone mentioned logistics upthread- if you are thinking of splitting the group and also looking at on getting to Mustique from the UK with minimum number of flights there aren’t that many options, certainly not on a daily basis, unless you are prepared to send part of the group via maybe the US (so more sectors) or use a private jet…and that might add complications…

I’m sure somebody somewhere will have run some sort of risk analysis.

Earlier posters were saying they couldn’t access much coverage of the games themselves. First off, some countries have televised it. Or if you want to see highlights you can go to Instagram and type in Invictus Games 2025 into the search bar. Move from the ‘For You Page’ to ‘Accounts’ (just under the search bar - just move from one to the next) and then you’ll see the official Invictus Games 2025 account and there’s some brilliant stuff on there. (If you just stay on the FYP what you’ll see is going to be predicated on what you have been previously interested in, whereas moving to ‘accounts’ shows you other stuff) you can also search Invictus Games Team UK, or Invictus Games Australia or Invictus Ukraine etc for content more specific to each country.

Taken from the Invictus Games 25 account - Invictus 2025 competitor Adria Brochau. Her 50th day on snow happened at the Invictus Games. It looks like she had a great time.

This is the veteran Adria Brochau, who was in the wheelchair that Meghan helped, and she has spoken out elsewhere to say what Meghan was accused of is not what happened. These reports focused on Meghan Markle to denigrate Meghan, but this nasty reporting actually hurts the games and its competitors too.

I took the report about Meghan seriously at first. And I was disappointed. I’m do not need a wheelchair at this point in my life, but I have experienced people physically move my body without asking because I have a walking stick and impaired vision and I was a little in their way. It’s invasive and it can feel dismissive and dehumanising. I was glad to read that Meghan did not thoughtlessly move the veteran athlete’s wheelchair without asking as reported. However, unfortunately, it’s not going to stop the false report being repeated over and over again as truth.

Over to you, Harry!

The traveling together protocol is reminding me of Spare, and Harry getting completely wrong the events that unfolded when his great grandmother died. He claimed he was alone in school and was told of her passing by a schoolmaster.

It is possible he was getting it confused with the death of Princess Margaret, which happened not long before, when he would have been at school.

Odd that he should have completely blanked out the actual events though - and no-one who read it pre-publication said 'hang on a minute, QEQM died at Easter, he wouldn't have been at school.'

The traveling together protocol is reminding me of Spare, and Harry getting completely wrong the events that unfolded when his great grandmother died. He claimed he was alone in school and was told of her passing by a schoolmaster. The reality is that he was on a ski holiday with his dad and brother and his dad told him. The reason why I mention it is that all three of them travelled home to the UK together - which would have been an unprecedented/unusual event for Harry and William, because their grandmother had forbidden such joint travel. So it's strange that he completely forgot what really happened.

I think Harry mixed up the deaths of Princess Margaret and his great grandmother in his memory. Their deaths came quite close together. Within months. Memories are changed in some way often each time we remember them. So it’s just not strange to forget the circumstances around something. It is actually very normal.

“Every time you remember an event from the past, your brain networks change in ways that can alter the later recall of the event. Thus, the next time you remember it, you might recall not the original event but what you remembered the previous time.” The Northwestern study is the first to show this.19 Sept 2012

https://news.northwestern.edu
Your Memory is like the Telephone Game - Northwestern Now

Edited to add: I’m my experience I might forget circumstances but I don’t forget how I felt.

They would WFH. Zooming in from Cali!

Yes, you are right, I assume they travel with protection officers and use VIP suites, so no need for them to come into contact with any weirdoes. I do feel very uneasy about it though. Taking 2 commercial flights would be better, imo, William with the Charlotte and Louis and Catherine with George, or other configuration where the immediate 2 heirs are not traveling together.

Do you mind sharing what actually happened or the link? I'd be interested to see what actually happened

This is true, except unlike the rest of us, Harry had the opportunity to check his faulty memories with a live record via the global press

Yes, I thought that too, but he didn't sound particularly fond of Margaret from what he wrote about her, so it's odd to have conflated the feelings he expressed at the passing of his GGM with the passing of a mean great aunt.

I agree, terrible fact checking and editing!

That’s true, but as he said at the beginning of his book, he’s recorded his memories (I’m paraphrasing him). He could have checked. I think I would have checked if I was him - given how microscopically anything he says or does is examined. But for some reason he chose not to. Maybe it’s because he doesn’t want to have to check every one of his memories against the accounts of the global press as they aren’t always accurate either.

@myrtleWilson When Spare first came out his account didn't chime with me. It took all of 5 minutes to find a BBC report on QETQM's death and other details about Charles and the boys flying back from the ski trip. Another reason to remember that trip, was because Harry had recently been busted for doing drugs at Eton, and it was his first time facing the press. Charles had arranged a photo call on on the proviso that all the journalists leave them in peace thereafter. The journalists at the time came home, only for the death to be announced. I don't think they could have been on the ski trip more than 2 days when it happened.

This from the Mirror, quoting Bachau "478952259
"She only helped to adjust my wheelchair for the photo, ensuring I was comfortable and included. This story doesn’t reflect the genuinely happy and caring moment. I'm disappointed that this compassionate act has been misrepresented."
Meanwhile, Nick Booth, CEO of the True Patriot Love Foundation, said: "Recent reports have painted an unfair and entirely inaccurate representation of the wonderful morning Team Canada spent with The Duke and Duchess of Sussex. All the members of Team Canada were thrilled to have had the Duke and Duchess join them at their welcome breakfast

“Adria Brochu later came forward as the Team Canada athlete in the wheelchair and told the Mirror: "Meghan was not only respectful but also incredibly kind.

"She only helped to adjust my wheelchair for the photo, ensuring I was comfortable and included. This story doesn't reflect the genuinely happy and caring moment. I'm disappointed that this compassionate act has been misrepresented."

@Spectre8

It Adria Brochau

It reads to me as though the original Newsweek article has been recycled with the quote from Adria dropped in later. I don’t think her quote was originally in the article.