How will the Royal Family end?

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The Royal Family will end. Not yet obviously. But within the next generation.

People often assume institutions like this fall slowly and gradually. We see a bit of that already happening with the reduction in "working" Royals, far less favourable poll results than when Queen Elizabeth reigned, and the willingness of the media to be more critical of the Royal Family.

I have seen people commenting assuming this means the Royal family will end soon. I think they misunderstand what is happening.

But society is changing and the deference that Queen Elizabeth attracted can no longer be taken for granted. Colonies are no longer happy for the Royals to carry out cosplay colonial tours on their soil, and increasingly they will remove the King as their Head of State. But I think when the end comes it will be sudden and unexpected. Similar to the fall of the Soviet Union. A clear weakening of the institution, but then a sudden, and shocking fall.

The aftermath will be very messy though as the Royal family try and fight for as much of the states wealth as they can, using the courts if they need to.

No clue. I do think they need to learn how to retire though. I get that Liz's childhood trauma meant that abdication wasn't something she could consider. But a trail of monarchs that are over retirement age before they even start and can hardly stand isn't going to help anyone. Much better to retire around 65-70 and let the middle aged ones take over.

Agree. The RF and advisors would have known about Saville. It's indefensible.

Charles' former PPS, William Nye, is fully embroiled in the Church of England child abuse coverup. Again links and knowledge at the highest levels.

Vile people.

I wonder if Omid Scobie’s Endgame has any clues? He seems quite confident of their demise too. Though even his royal racist narrative didn’t bring them down 🤷🏻‍♀️

Yes, every circle does count, but when it comes to young people in the UK and support for the monarchy; the generations are very much divided.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66707923

they look ridiculous in their dressing up clothes,

And apparently Charles had no knowledge at all about Andrew potentially putting national security at risk?

what gives you that idea? 😅

He did not even complete basic training.

Well, they won't stop breeding, that's for sure.

The Aberdeen visit was launching Homewards wasn’t it - the six locations were secret and not pre announced so of course no one was there on arrival @serenster covered this on a previous thread

Really, you think people in the UK care about what people in Jamaica are doing politically? I think you'll find most people don't even appreciate that Charles is head of state of that country, let alone taking their political cues from them.

You haven't answered the other questions. What is the model for the UK republic that is being tabled? What powers will the head of state have?

Also, as a general election costs in the region of £150m, are we doubling that budget for head of state elections too, or are their costs savings? What will be the security and housing costs be for a president, and will this be any cheaper than the amount paid for the RF now? Will the British taxpayer still be paying for the upkeep of the royal residences that are publicly owned? If not, what will happen to them?

What are you proposing happens to the RF? Orf with their heads? Or are they allowed to live in peace? Will they get security paid for them by the state, since they will be vulnerable?

It seems strange to put up barriers for crowds if it was a secret visit

William's visit was announced on the day, so not really a surprise there weren't crowds. Interesting choice of publication there, too 😂

There were, however, huge crowds in Edinburgh, and to see King Charles in Dunfermline.

They will have a massive photograph taken, at which point there will be a thunderstorm and they will all get struck by lightening and we will end up with an American redneck as king,

The location was tweeted, whatever others might claim.

Are you Nostradamus?!

What a lot of guff!!

What is the model for the UK republic that is being tabled? What powers will the head of state have?

How on earth can anyone on a forum answer this sort of question when it will take scholars, experts and at minimum a decade to unravel a constitutional monarchy.

Well it's obvious what the purpose of this thread is isn't it ?

It's all made to sound very dramatic then the example of something that may never happen and none of us have any knowledge about / Prince George's wedding.

Of course Jamaica and others are looking to remove themselves from certain links to the RF. That is nothing new and has been happening with various former Empire countries before. Some of them have ended up deep in the shit with their own corrupt politicians ( but at least they are their own I suppose ) . The loosening or cutting of former ties is a natural evolution and it's those very things that reshape the monarchy as it is now and as it will be.

This thread is pure batshit.

I did not claim William never gets crowds at his visits. I would have expected big crowds at Edinburgh and Dunfermline given its demographics,

Tiny crowd in Belfast where he was booed.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-william-booed-jeered-leaves-34113998

I think the British RF are a long way from being irrelevant.

Charles' Coronation was watched by millions in the UK and billions around the world. It had a peak UK television audience of 20.4 million, making it the most watched television broadcast of 2023, and attracted a global audience of two billion people across 125 countries.

Charles cancer diagnosis was headline news in the UK it was top news on every global media outlet around the world.

Similar with Catherines' cancer diagnosis, also headline news in the UK and around the world, her video announcing it had 100's of millions of views.

They have a lot more supporters in the UK than detractors, and globally I don't think any other Royals garner as much interest as the UK royals do.

I don’t think it will happen any time soon. William and Catherine are very popular. Even with the younger generation (18-24) they scored a net rating favourability of +35 and +41 in the most recent polls, and younger generations are more likely to be Republican/left leaning.

The same age groups’ net rating favourability of royals for comparison:
Charles (+26)
Camilla (-6)
Harry (-3)
Meghan (-7)

Those figures are likely to increase as the group ages as most people become more conservative as they get older.

So the only way I can see it all going tits up is if William cheats on Catherine, they have a spectacularly messy divorce or Catherine kicks a puppy.

This thread has been created by a poster who is a fan of the Sussexes and therefore William and Catherine must be shown to be unpopular 😆

The indifference of young people would not matter if the Royal family are seen to be "working" and doing their part. But William and Catherine have been claiming they are ready to step up soon, and nothing happens. Instead another message is released saying they are prioritising family and will continue to do less and less.

QED