Page 38 | Is there another couple like the Sussexes Part 2

veraswaistcoat · 2025-02-05T13:30:47+00:00

With this new authentic Insta post where Meghan positions herself as a go between in securing some signed merchandise I think there's still plenty to discuss. This is a new image. No make up. Carefully edited insta. New lips. Is this influencer territory? Mention of " my husband and l " Echoes of the Queen ?

Mylovelygreendress · 15/02/2025 16:38

Uricon2 · 15/02/2025 16:02

I don't think there is anyone they won't monetise, from the poor school matron and girl who he apparently lost his virginity to in Spare to the late Queen and Diana. I think anyone is fair game to be written about for $$ or have their name and tragic death constantly invoked to shine up the brand for $$ or a pet name that has been theirs for nearly a century reused for $$. To me, it seems more and more obvious.

It's actually a really shoddy way of leading a life TBH and puts eg Peter Phillips milk commercial into perspective. Noone was hurt by that.

BUT ….Andrew !

jeffgoldblum · 15/02/2025 16:40

Cheers @smilesy , I'm used to the limits of the app but it's just much easier to read than the website!
Just annoying that you have to open mn in a web browser to edit , see pm and add gifs or see thanks and stuff !
So apologies if I've ignored anyone or not given thanks!

jeffgoldblum · 15/02/2025 16:41

Please stay @Ohpleeeease !

Uricon2 · 15/02/2025 16:45

Ohpleeeease · 15/02/2025 16:28

My fault. I’ll go back to lurking 😳

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Don't lurk! There seem to be all sorts of tech glitches ATM (and worse)

I'm grateful for my trusty desktop and never usually being around after about 8PM😂

Onlyonekenobe · 15/02/2025 16:47

MissFenellaPrism · 15/02/2025 10:42

Harry is still talking about his mother? Is that all he has to contribute? Is that his only selling point?

Yes. And he is unique in being the only person who can talk about her. He'll still be doing it when he's 70. He's in a comfortable groove letting her be what defines him. He doesn't have anything of greater or equal impact on his life to compete with her, in any event. Plus, he doesn't have to take responsibility for anything in that relationship - forever the wounded, innocent victim, and nobody will ever be able to take that away from him.

MissFenellaPrism · 15/02/2025 16:48

Onlyonekenobe · 15/02/2025 16:47

Yes. And he is unique in being the only person who can talk about her. He'll still be doing it when he's 70. He's in a comfortable groove letting her be what defines him. He doesn't have anything of greater or equal impact on his life to compete with her, in any event. Plus, he doesn't have to take responsibility for anything in that relationship - forever the wounded, innocent victim, and nobody will ever be able to take that away from him.

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Those are really excellent points 👍
If only his therapy had helped him to recognise and deal with all of that.

jeffgoldblum · 15/02/2025 16:53

people.com/prince-harry-spends-valentines-day-visiting-tsleil-waututh-nation-11680556

Oh dear Harry's at it again!

HamandCheeseSandwich · 15/02/2025 16:53

Onlyonekenobe · 15/02/2025 16:47

Yes. And he is unique in being the only person who can talk about her. He'll still be doing it when he's 70. He's in a comfortable groove letting her be what defines him. He doesn't have anything of greater or equal impact on his life to compete with her, in any event. Plus, he doesn't have to take responsibility for anything in that relationship - forever the wounded, innocent victim, and nobody will ever be able to take that away from him.

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They're fairly sure he has brother ... He's not unique in that respect at all.

Uricon2 · 15/02/2025 16:55

I have to say "Archie asking about landmines" (don't believe he instigated that convo for one moment) and using that as another opportunity to shoehorn Diana in annoyed me. She had many faults but tried to do a real good there and used her public profile for that, rather than to make a buck or million. I don't think anyone has ever cast doubt on her sincerity re landmines (or HIV/AIDS)

Dunno, Harry's her son and of course has the right to talk about her, more than virtually anyone, but it feels like service of another agenda quite a lot of the time, that they are invoking her to add to their cachet and relevance. Perhaps I'm wrong.

Onlyonekenobe · 15/02/2025 16:59

@HamandCheeseSandwich

William can't talk about her, in his position as future monarch with his step-mother the current Queen, the one Diana would have been. None of the senior royals can/will ever talk about her other than William, maybe, briefly, almost in (meaningful) passing. Harry considers himself untrammeled by that protocol.

jeffgoldblum · 15/02/2025 16:59

I'm beginning to really wonder whether these countries haven’t got the memo about Harry leaving?
They do know he's not representing the royal family or the U.K. anymore right?

This is the second First Nation visit in a week!

NotaRealHousewife · 15/02/2025 17:02

How the hell does Archie, the five year old, know about landmines??

MissFenellaPrism · 15/02/2025 17:03

Onlyonekenobe · 15/02/2025 16:59

@HamandCheeseSandwich

William can't talk about her, in his position as future monarch with his step-mother the current Queen, the one Diana would have been. None of the senior royals can/will ever talk about her other than William, maybe, briefly, almost in (meaningful) passing. Harry considers himself untrammeled by that protocol.

Maybe that's William's choice? I understand that he's had therapy. Maybe he talks about her to Kate and the children, maybe his friends. He just chooses not to in public. That's probably partly his role, but more likely his reluctance to share what he considers to be very personal and private.

MissFenellaPrism · 15/02/2025 17:05

jeffgoldblum · 15/02/2025 16:59

I'm beginning to really wonder whether these countries haven’t got the memo about Harry leaving?
They do know he's not representing the royal family or the U.K. anymore right?

This is the second First Nation visit in a week!

Isn't the Commonwealth representative to Canada a First Nation woman?
Harry probably thinks he can do better than her 😂

MissFenellaPrism · 15/02/2025 17:05

NotaRealHousewife · 15/02/2025 17:02

How the hell does Archie, the five year old, know about landmines??

It's baffling, isn't it? When my boy was 5 he just talked about Bob the Builder and dinosaurs.

Ohpleeeease · 15/02/2025 17:07

Thanks everyone, no flounce intended, will stick around for everyone else’s excellent posts.

I have thoughts.

Both William and Harry have tried to create a bond between “Granny Diana” and their own children. I’ve been that grandchild and it can’t be done I’m afraid. Any show of affection for her will be to please their parents but they won’t be capable of having an emotional attachment of their own.

I’ve always thought C goes along with it for W’s sake, maybe that’s how he deals with his loss. I find it a bit mawkish but theirs was a traumatic loss so I suppose whatever works for them.

Uricon2 · 15/02/2025 17:11

William mentions his mother in a much more restrained way. I think people forget that he was only a couple of years old than Harry and had been in the position of Diana's supporter/confidante, difficult for any child. The stories about him pushing tissues under the door when she was crying and saying "when I'm King I'll give you your HRH back" are bloody heartbreaking.

I was a "parentified" child and it is a very, very difficult role. I can entirely believe these things happened, because similar happened to me (I wasn't in a position to grant titles, though!)

Serenster · 15/02/2025 17:20

William can't talk about her, in his position as future monarch with his step-mother the current Queen, the one Diana would have been.

History always seems to get re-written around Diana. She and Charles were separated for several years and then divorced well before her untimely death. No matter what happened, she would never have been Queen.

jeffgoldblum · 15/02/2025 17:28

I'm still very cross that Harry is obviously miss leading the First Nations in Canada that he has any chance of helping them in any way!
He even called the commonwealth' empire 2.0' 😡

And apparently there's also a fuss from Nigeria because certain security chiefs were denied visas and entry to invictus and Canada , even though Harry invited them! 🙄, obviously he didn't have time to help with this issue!

jeffgoldblum · 15/02/2025 17:29

www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/canada-they-can-go-to-hell-why-nigeria-is-angry-with-canada/

wordler · 15/02/2025 17:30

Uricon2 · 15/02/2025 17:11

William mentions his mother in a much more restrained way. I think people forget that he was only a couple of years old than Harry and had been in the position of Diana's supporter/confidante, difficult for any child. The stories about him pushing tissues under the door when she was crying and saying "when I'm King I'll give you your HRH back" are bloody heartbreaking.

I was a "parentified" child and it is a very, very difficult role. I can entirely believe these things happened, because similar happened to me (I wasn't in a position to grant titles, though!)

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I’m sure both William and Harry are still dealing with the trauma of losing their mother the way they did.

You can see it in the completely out of proportion response from Harry to trying to ‘save’ Meghan - from the press, from the Firm, from the paps.

William seems to have dealt with that aspect better - maybe through therapy. But I suspect that Kate’s cancer diagnosis brought up a lot of old wounds for him imagining his own children losing their mother too. I know people have criticized him completely dropping out of view last year and saying he shouldn’t have taken the year off.

It was indicated by sources for the King that Charles was completely supportive of how Kate and William were dealing with the issue though so behind closed doors there was probably a lot of worry and stress for Charles knowing what William was potentially facing/fearing.

FromTheOfficeOfJammyTodger · 15/02/2025 17:37

William has spoken publicly about Diana, along with his Uncle Charles, about the Bashir interview, in the wake of revelations about how Bashir procured that interview - through commissioning forged documents to make her think her security team was talking to the press about her. He asked that it never be shown again. A request ignored by Harry, who used it in his Netflix docusoap.

Herbologistinwaiting · 15/02/2025 17:38

Onlyonekenobe · 15/02/2025 16:59

@HamandCheeseSandwich

William can't talk about her, in his position as future monarch with his step-mother the current Queen, the one Diana would have been. None of the senior royals can/will ever talk about her other than William, maybe, briefly, almost in (meaningful) passing. Harry considers himself untrammeled by that protocol.

That’s a very good point.

Onlyonekenobe · 15/02/2025 17:44

Serenster · 15/02/2025 17:20

William can't talk about her, in his position as future monarch with his step-mother the current Queen, the one Diana would have been.

History always seems to get re-written around Diana. She and Charles were separated for several years and then divorced well before her untimely death. No matter what happened, she would never have been Queen.

Diana would have been Queen but for the divorce, not but for her death. However, some (certainly Harry) would say if she hadn't got divorced she wouldn't have been in that car in that tunnel, and wouldn't have died. It's salt in the wound for such people that Camilla is now Queen.

Uricon2 · 15/02/2025 17:45

wordler · 15/02/2025 17:30

I’m sure both William and Harry are still dealing with the trauma of losing their mother the way they did.

You can see it in the completely out of proportion response from Harry to trying to ‘save’ Meghan - from the press, from the Firm, from the paps.

William seems to have dealt with that aspect better - maybe through therapy. But I suspect that Kate’s cancer diagnosis brought up a lot of old wounds for him imagining his own children losing their mother too. I know people have criticized him completely dropping out of view last year and saying he shouldn’t have taken the year off.

It was indicated by sources for the King that Charles was completely supportive of how Kate and William were dealing with the issue though so behind closed doors there was probably a lot of worry and stress for Charles knowing what William was potentially facing/fearing.

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I totally agree with this. I was (and I'm not prone to this) really upset for William faced with the potential repeat of the nightmare he went through himself for his own kids, as well as the prospect of losing his wife and at a time when his father was ill too, an event that could have resulted in him becoming King with all that entails at the worst possible time.

Thankfully all seems to be well and long may it remain so, but it doesn't take a huge amount of imagination to think that William was facing terrible things last year.