Vanity Fair podcast

[Atlasvue]

Carrying on.

Employee feels Harry is happy doing charity work and is happy for meghan to do all the work to make money so he doesn’t need to

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14297853/Meghan-Markle-Harry-caregiver-reparenting-Montecito-claims-new-article.html

Not the title I would have gone for but the DM will get plenty out of this

That wouldn't surprise me and I feel like Kate is the same with William as well.

I think Kate's family as a whole played a role in reparenting William. But they met when they were 19 so it was closer to being age appropriate.

And I think that William is stubborn and opinionated and there are times when nobody can tell him what's what.

I suspect all married-ins provide some degree of emotional scaffolding to their royal spouses. Except, of course, famously, Diana.

My biggest takeaway is the (once again) bullying allegations. The working environment was apparently so bad that some staffers needed therapy.

I think it's the bullying allegations that will stick.

It must be very embarrassing and difficult for them to come up with some sort of rebuttal when it's coming at them from two sides of a vast ocean time and time again.

The timing also played a part because while Harry met Meghan almost 20 years after Diana died, William met Kate 3/4 years after he lost his mother so he probably desperately needed a family

Harry didn't help himself and Meghan when he admitted in his book that several staffers wept at their desks

It feels like this is the end for them.

Clearly Meghan has been caught out again, but she can’t run away this time and blame racism.

I see that the Meghan supporters responses are- look how much column inches they get, it’s a smear etc. No one willing to acknowledge this is a reputable US outlet, corroborating earlier stories of Meghans bullying behaviour. They have nothing to say in that. It’s embarrassing.

Clearly Hollywood won’t let this go, so they might as well give up. This won’t stop. The HR article was only a few months back. This article doesn’t even cover what it was like to work with her on the tv show….its just the podcast. So there could be more.

They just don’t get it. No one wants what they’re selling.

Also the divorce rumours are going to go into overdrive with the book revelation.

It was this sort of stuff that did for Ellen, wasn't it?

Wow, this really feels like a sea change. The gloves are well and truly off now in the mainstream media.

I had thought that VF had previously been quite pro H&M (might be wrong though) so this feels like a massive shift.

They've really pissed some people off I think for this to be allowed to be published.

Yup

VF is a pretty weighty publication & has done many in depth well researched investigations over the years.

From the Telegraph:

"The high-profile magazine says it spent months speaking to dozens of people who have lived and worked with the Sussexes to establish how their new life has panned out."

Every disgruntled staff member who spoke must have:

• felt there were enough people who felt the same way they did that H&M wouldn't be able to identify them; or
• that their NDAs wouldn't be upheld because H&M wouldn't dare to sue or whatever you do when one is breached

My guess is it's the first one.

Wow, @atlasvue thank you for the summary, I had not seen anything about this.

This has to be dynamite to Meghan's reputation, it's up in smoke after this. . The bullying allegations again from another source, the RF, Archewell and now Spotify staff.

Harry sounds like he is a bumbling aristocrat going out there trying to do his wifes bidding in finding himself 'a job', but totally clueless, it looks pathetic for both of them for reasons on either end of the spectrum.

The reality is Meghan is the antithesis of the person she tries to portray and the proof is overwhelming.

Edited to add, as a previous poster mentioned, the staff who worked for her in the RF must feel vindicated. Their experience was not because they were 'too British' and she was 'too American' no culture clash caused any of this (I am sure William must feel a bit vindicated too)

Is this article the real reason that NF delayed the cooking show?

What shocks me is how Americans have turned on her. Nothing she experienced in the UK was on this level. I just can’t see how they can remain in Hollywood after this. Or why they would want to.

That is a very good point.

I can’t get over the fact that her team, went to a publishing company to discuss an idea about a book of Meghans life, post Harry divorce.

Does that mean she was talking about it?,they observed something going on? When the rumours were rife that they just wanted to see what the market was for such a book?, is this standard practice for celeb book? Has Meghan been planning her exit all along?

The divorce rumours have been around for a while now, they’ve also separated their work.
I think Harry will lose his mind over this. The not knowing if it’s true or not.

I have said this before- Harry is really a total dimwit, but he is also incredibly mentally vulnerable. I dislike them both a very great deal, but I am really worried for his mental state if she does divorce him.

I used to have a real soft spot for Harry, I was so positive about both of them when they got together, was really positive about Meghan all the way until Oprah, I still remember my sister and I, both of us very positive about H&M, sitting down with a glass of wine to watch Oprah. At the end of it we both said 'holy shit, what a nasty pair they turned out to be'.

So, hearing his wife may have been peddling a 'post divorce book' and seeing her figuring out how much it would earn her in a horrible mercenary way, takes me back to that feeling of having a real soft spot for him, and feeling so much sympathy for him if that is the life he is currently living. Haven't thought I would ever say this again but 'poor Harry'😟

Lainey Gossip who was quoted in the VF article. Says she’ll talk more on Monday. Interesting

‘Vanity Fair’s new cover story is about Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, reported by Anna Peele. This story was likely timed to the release of With Love, Meghan that was supposed to premiere this week but has now been pushed back to March because of the LA wildfires. H&M did not participate in the story, they actually use a stock photo for the cover.
So get ready for days and days of discourse. I’ll talk about it more on Monday. Full disclosure: I am quoted a few times in this piece. ‘

VF really wanted to screw this new tv show over didn’t they!

Also, the hubris of Harry saying "I have very bad childhood trauma. Obviously. My mother was essentially murdered. What is it about me that didn’t make me one of these bad guys?”

Is pretty astounding. I mean ok, he's not murdered anyone but I don't think he's in a position to claim a moral high ground here.

A number of people have drawn parallels between Harry and Meghan and Wallis and Edward. Once the glamour had worn off Wallis deeply regretted marrying Edward and thought she was trapped. She didn't have the life she wanted and ultimately found him boring. Hope Harry isn't going the same way with Meghan.

It's interesting that you make this point because I was thinking how the heck has it come to this? Yes they are a pair of plonkers but they really have been decimated by the press in the USA now. What is it that marks them out for this treatment? Is it the lies and the obvious media seeking attention combined with no real talent? Is that what gets people's backs up? Is it because Harry isn't American but tootles around with his title? Whatever it is it is a far cry from before.

'tootles around with his title'

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