Vanity Fair podcast

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Carrying on.

Employee feels Harry is happy doing charity work and is happy for meghan to do all the work to make money so he doesn’t need to

Way back on one of the mn threads it was said they bought their house at a bargain price of 13million and the property was last valued at 30million
Though that was before the fires

Because of the kids, Charles, William, and Kate will probably always hold the door open for Harry's return. After all, Archie and Lilibet are in line for the throne and will need to be educated on this.

Plus, this situation isn't the kids fault. They're through no choice of their own estranged from both sides of their family. I hope the Windsors can see this and find a warm place in their hearts for them.

In regards to Kate, I always feel that she must be so hurt by Harry's treatment of her. There was a time when he saw her as a sister and dear friend. For him to throw her under the bus with silly anecdotes about lip gloss and bridesmaids dresses must be heart breaking.

They are in line for the throne but there is no realistic chance of them ever being King or Queen. They're the equivalent of David Armstrong Jones, who was also the grandchild of a king and was 5th in line at birth. So I don't think they'll need any particular 'education' and in any case they are going to grow up and go to school in California.

I'm sure it's sad for Charles not to have a relationship with his grandchildren but that is the path their parents have chosen for them.

I really don't see the RF ever trusting Harry again - I remember the late Queen's jubilee thanksgiving service where Harry and Meghan were waiting for their car on the steps and how visibly uncomfortable the other RF members were with them (think it was Peter Philips, the Tindalls and the Earl of Snowdon). I'm sure there would always be a physical home in the UK for Harry if he ever needed it, but I don't see him (and sadly by extension the children) being trusted. I just think too much has happened.

Surely Meghan's love for her children would stop her dishing dirt on their father in a post-divorce book?

I could never understand`why she would leave her private diary behind, supposedly full of damning/incriminating material you wouldn't want to get into the wrong hands. Was she assuming some of the grey men would go into Frogmore looking through their stuff, and left it as a warning to the RF that they basically better not cross her?

I assumed the diary reference was just a warning to the RF that she had more to say, rather than her genuinely having left it at Frogmore. I think that's just how she worked it into the article.

If true, that is the tactic of a bully. Silencing people with threats.

Didnt stop Diana or Charles.....Maybe it will be PH that spills the beans post divorce?

I managed to read this whole article and tbh most of it was stuff we've heard before. Yes, there are yet more people accusing Meghan of being a bully, but I believed that the first time I read it in relationship to the palace staff, so that wasn't anything revelatory.

It confirms that Harry is socially isolated and has no friends in CA, again we've heard that before, and it's sad. It also confirms his naivete around dishing the dirt on his family - that he thought he could say all those terrible things and share private conversations and insult his father, stepmother, brother and SIL and that they'd just ... what? Laugh it off? Say 'Oh Harry, I'm sorry I pushed you into a dog bowl', but now you've called me 'Astonishingly bald' can we just forget it and go for a pint?'.

TBH though I didn't really learn anything new. He's a twit, she's a B-word. Quelle surprise!

I remember news leaking that when Harry and Meghan attended the Jubilee, Meghan retained ownership of her diary that she had left behind

I always found that particular claim hilarious - as if someone so calculating would leave her notes behind and risk them being "lost"

As for any possible future NDA, I guess she could always collaborate with Scobie again and claim she'd had nothing to do with it
Though given his continued silence after naming Charles and Catherine as the "royal racists" I'm more convinced than ever that the RF's lawyers have frightened him sh1tless

I can’t see them splitting but if they do and there is a book post divorce from Meghan the RF lawyers will go after her.

They may not have gone after Harry for Spare but he’s royal and Meghan is a married in and not a treasured one at that.

Say it was married in Sophie who was going to write a tell all I think they’d be more lenient with any gossip as she’s proved her worth. Meghan hasn’t.

MM was a second rate actress who was the least interesting character with no range at all in a reasonably successful telly programme, hired due to her looks and ability to hustle
Catches the eye of wealthy prince again due to her looks
Uses hustle skills in personal spin and manipulating others which land on fertile territory in said prince who is not that bright, emotionally vulnerable and also has a huge sense of entitlement as is not used to being told no
He was looking for a mum he can shag to look after him in place of his dead mum
A perfect storm ensues and he is willing to leave his family and his country in favour of his new shaggable mum who stokes his every resentment and insecurity. Only she can save him so he will hear no dissenting voices and brooks no criticism of his beloved.
It is all coming home to roost now as you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14299197/Top-10-revelations-Vanity-Fairs-savage-takedown-Prince-Harry-Meghan.html

Is vanity fair like the enquirer these days?

Yes, that little nugget about the diary never really got the attention in commentaries at the time it deserved. There is no WAY that Meghan "happened across it" when clearing out a drawer at Frogmore, it having lain there, forgotten, for a year or two. That outright lie anecdote was a clear warning to people that she has further ammunition she can use if she chooses to. Same with the veiled threat about "being silent until she isn't."
Calculating and threatening behaviour. She won't go quietly.

Page six and NYpost publishing the divorce book story

https://pagesix.com/2025/01/18/royal-family/meghan-markles-team-quietly-shopped-book-about-life-post-divorce-from-prince-harry-report/

https://nypost.com/2025/01/18/entertainment/meghan-markles-team-proposed-prince-harry-divorce-book-to-publisher-scathing-vanity-fair-expose-alleges/

I still think it’s an empty threat. She wasn’t around long enough to have anything to tell that she hasn’t already. I also get the distinct impression that people were already wary around her well before they left. The only person she could tell us anything about is Harry

typo

This is from @IcedPurple earlier on the thread. HTH.

"They won't sue. VF is not some internet gossip site. It's a major, respected publication and this article will have gone through all the legal checks.
It's also worth pointing out that VF, like The Hollywood Reporter, likes to keep good relations with celebrities and their agents. The fact that this article has gone to press indicates that nobody with any power in Hollywood could be bothered to try to stop it. Which does not bode well for their future in the industry."

Is your concern that the dozens of employees interviewed over the years by The Times, The Hollywood Reporter and Vanity Fair - who relay their separate yet consistent stories of workplace bullying by MM are fake? Or faking it?

The Sussex DC are in the same position as Lord Snowdon and Lady Sarah Chatto.

There really would have to be a terrible catastrophe for the Waleses before they needed any royal training

I think the UK would become a republic before either of Harry’s children would be allowed to ascend to the throne. If William and all his children died I think the UK public would see it as a natural way to bring the House of Windsor to a close.

Read the Stately Homes thread here on MN. For a narc mother, the children are there to fill her needs, not the other way round.

Whatever his relations might feel or do - and I'm not optimistic for him - he surely will never be allowed to act in an official capacity ever again. The RF have to meet politicians (British and foreign), Heads of State, diplomats and civil servants and absolute discretion is required.

Harry has shown himself to be weak, easily manipulated, utterly indiscreet and lacking all judgement (as well as petty, spiteful, immature etc etc). He can only come back to the UK as a private person at the discretion of KC or William. And the press would hound him too.

There were rumours about 5 years ago (period between when the exit was announced and their final UK engagements) that the RF would only interact with both Harry and Meghan when there were third parties present.

IF that's true, then by the time of the funeral and after everything the couple had said publicly, I'm not surprised that people were wary of even small talk with him