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Netflix has delayed start of Meghans show

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Viviennemary · 12/01/2025 22:34

Just seen on Sky News. Breaking News headlines. Delayed because of the wild fires didn't say if this was technical difficulties or it would be a bit crass to launch a frothy type lifestyle show with all the devastation. Anyway it might be shelved for good with any luck.

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JSMill · 16/01/2025 09:46

wordler · 15/01/2025 22:57

This was how he describes it:

“The wallpaper, the ceiling trim, the walnut bookshelves filled with volumes of peaceful colors, priceless works of art,” Harry recalls. “Magnificent. Like a museum.”

So weird - he’s lived his WHOLE life in the royal family at this point - surrounded by exactly that sort of decor in every one of the many many homes and palaces his family own.

He is friends with some of the richest and poshest people in the country who all have homes exactly like this.

How is it that he didn’t notice any of this until Meghan appears on the scene.

Why was it such a shock to notice that William was living in a home that mirrors 90 percent of the aesthetic and lifestyle of his family?

I know. I thought that was weird at the time but not much was said about it. My only explanation for that was a certain person came along and pointed these things out to him. Probably the same person who thought she was too good for a Sir Christopher Wren designed cottage.

MrsLeonFarrell · 16/01/2025 09:54

IcedPurple · 16/01/2025 09:38

I'm not a fan of celebrities touring disaster areas but turning up with a donation at what seems to be a smaller charity this bringing publicity to a donation point others may not be aware of, that's a good idea. It's a great pity she didn't stick with that.

She'd be much better making a generous donation.

Cold hard cash is much more useful in crisis situations than 'stuff' which has to be sorted though, washed, organised and in many cases chucked because people are 'donating' all sorts of rubbish.

But I do wonder is Harry so stuck on the need to be acknowledged as royal that he is suggesting quasi royal things, like the disaster tourism, that backfire? Maybe Meghan is actually better at gauging what is appropriate as a celebrity, which is why she is doing this solo?

I think it's the opposite. He looked very uncomfortable in the Pasadena photo op, whereas she looked in her element.

He's not the brightest, but he does know what real royal work is, and the Pasadena stunt wasn't.

Cash would be great, I'm not sure they have much of that though.

I don't think that Harry has ever grasped what real royal work is. If he had he would have realised that he got attention because of his role not himself, and maybe this whole mess would have been avoided. He could be happily living quietly whilst Meghan did charity work.

I haven't seen videos though and he could equally have been awkward in this situation as well.

pelargoniums · 16/01/2025 09:55

Ohpleeeease · 16/01/2025 09:44

A few thoughts.

She’s dressed like a volunteer. Other volunteers will be there all day, getting stuck in, working until they’re exhausted. I have no thoughts about what she should have worn to drop off donations, I really don’t care, but dressing like a volunteer doesn’t make her one.

A baseball cap is appropriate, the choice of cap however is no accident, it’s a distinctive one intended to make it easier for photographers to find her amongst other heads.

I’m sure she genuinely wants to be of help, but let’s not be naive, these appearances are very much part of the PR recovery plan.

I don’t disagree that it’s planned and curated and part of a PR recovery plan. I just think it’s bonkers to critique her for dressing appropriately; doing so makes it easier to dismiss genuine criticism.

I’m not wildly bothered if it is a cynical, planned move if the charity/organisation itself is happy – they’ve openly thanked Archewell Foundation for its assistance and included Meghan in their social media, so they’re getting what they need out of it, which is what’s important. (Versus the World Central Kitchen appearance, where no one got anything they needed out of Meghan showing up.)

Mylovelygreendress · 16/01/2025 10:17

I criticise Meghan for a lot of things but she looks appropriately dressed in those photos .

MrsFinkelstein · 16/01/2025 10:30

GreenTeaLikesMe · 16/01/2025 06:12

I was also struck by the oddness of this. Trying to make himself like an outsider of humble origins. It was very strange.

He grew up in KP. Charles and Diana moved into apartments 8 & 9 (which were combined into 1 home) after the wedding. It would always have been opulent.

I have a feeling that part of Spare may have been dictated by someone who was actually seeing it for the very first time.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 16/01/2025 10:34

wordler · 15/01/2025 22:57

This was how he describes it:

“The wallpaper, the ceiling trim, the walnut bookshelves filled with volumes of peaceful colors, priceless works of art,” Harry recalls. “Magnificent. Like a museum.”

So weird - he’s lived his WHOLE life in the royal family at this point - surrounded by exactly that sort of decor in every one of the many many homes and palaces his family own.

He is friends with some of the richest and poshest people in the country who all have homes exactly like this.

How is it that he didn’t notice any of this until Meghan appears on the scene.

Why was it such a shock to notice that William was living in a home that mirrors 90 percent of the aesthetic and lifestyle of his family?

My mum hobnobbed with the local minor aristocracy for a little while when I was you get and we were invited to their big socials.

The two things you have to remember is that stately homes are usually both grander and scruffier than your average house.

There's the walnut shelving, the oil paintings of their children and their ancestors etc. But there also the battered Barbour, the Hunter wellies with a plastic bag taped inside to keep the leak, everything smelling of dog, the boiler that's almost as old as boilers can be, the idiosyncratic electrics. And a dozen estate cottages that they moan about the maintenance for.

(One of my favourites lines in the Christmas round robin was that, "the tenants are complaining about the heating again: their boiler has adopted socialist principles and is refusing to work".)

My guess is that all the shabby elements were there at Nott Cott (because Harry didn't bother to make the place nice or thought it was nice/normal), and they went to the grand bits of Anmer.

NotOnThe · 16/01/2025 10:37

Permanently we hope.

MrsFinkelstein · 16/01/2025 10:39

I have no issues with how Meghan was dressed for her recent visit, and I do think that was a good choice for her. It's a really small, local charity that probably few people have heard of. That should have been the first choice visit rather than the obvious PR stunt at Pasadena.

They may be able to change the narrative, but it's going to be a real hard, rough slog to get over the catastrophic fallout from Pasadena. Would be good if they could as I think they do genuinely mean well, but they appear completely clueless about how to do it without it seeming self serving.

itsstillmehere · 16/01/2025 11:13

This young lady Avery has done an amazing job and certainly didn't need Meghan to broadcast her efforts.

Ohpleeeease · 16/01/2025 11:30

pelargoniums · 16/01/2025 09:55

I don’t disagree that it’s planned and curated and part of a PR recovery plan. I just think it’s bonkers to critique her for dressing appropriately; doing so makes it easier to dismiss genuine criticism.

I’m not wildly bothered if it is a cynical, planned move if the charity/organisation itself is happy – they’ve openly thanked Archewell Foundation for its assistance and included Meghan in their social media, so they’re getting what they need out of it, which is what’s important. (Versus the World Central Kitchen appearance, where no one got anything they needed out of Meghan showing up.)

I think you’re right that nitpicking about her clothes clouds more justified criticism. Also it feeds the narrative that she can do nothing right for some people.

I do have more of a problem with charities being used as a virtue shield.

Archewell’s mantra is “show up, do good”. The trouble is, showing up isn’t the bit that helps the charity.

Snorlaxo · 16/01/2025 11:35

The decor statement is strange when it’s been reported that the kids bedrooms at Kate and William’s Kensington Palace apartment has Ikea furniture.

EsmaCannonball · 16/01/2025 11:40

Don't know if the hotel rumours are true but, given that people are desperate for a roof over their head at the moment, it would be thoughtless to stay in a room you didn't need. Wouldn't it be better for rich people staying in hotels to donate their rooms and suites to fire victims who otherwise could never afford them?

smilesy · 16/01/2025 11:42

Ohpleeeease · 16/01/2025 11:30

I think you’re right that nitpicking about her clothes clouds more justified criticism. Also it feeds the narrative that she can do nothing right for some people.

I do have more of a problem with charities being used as a virtue shield.

Archewell’s mantra is “show up, do good”. The trouble is, showing up isn’t the bit that helps the charity.

Absolutely this. She seems quite appropriately dressed for what she is supposed to be doing. The question is more, what is she actually doing apart from “showing up”? She seems to have forgotten about the second part

Spectre8 · 16/01/2025 11:48

Viviennemary · 16/01/2025 08:21

A baseball cap?? It's crass. Imagine the late Queen Elizabeth turning up at a disaster scene in a baseball cap. Utterly inappropriate. Are they royals or not.

A baseball cap is crass? There are pictures of other volunteers wearing baseball caps including Jennifer Garner.

And why are you comparing her to what the Queen would do. They are non working royals as you and other like to constantly point out they left the royal family, dont repesent them officially so yeah she can turn up wearing a baseball cap. She doesn't have to adhere to royal protocols anymore esp about what to wear

This isn't criticism this is just nasty bitchy comments.

Spectre8 · 16/01/2025 11:53

elessar · 16/01/2025 08:51

It's a carefully curated casual outfit, designed to give the appearance that she's 'one of the people' and just there to muck in and do her bit.

But of course this new appearance is clearly just attempts to recover from the PR damage of the last visit - the thought process is pretty transparent. "Oh we've been accused of being disaster tourists and just turning up for a photo op, so let's put in another 2-3 appearances at different places, do it more quietly this time (but make sure it leaks so people know about it) and then it will look like we do authentically want to help."

I can see why they've done it, but I think the damage has been done now whatever happens.

The relief fund itself is an interesting choice as it's not a major charity, it's niche and set up by a local teenage girl. But I wonder if that's chosen because H&M can have more impact from a donation/appearance there than one of the bigger ones. Maybe agreement that Meghan could be featured in a reel if she turned up was negotiated when bigger efforts would be turned off by the negative associations with the couple. Who knows.

Still waiting for the announcement about how much money H&M have donated personally though - they seem to be desperately avoiding any reference and I assume it's because any amount they've given pales in significance compared to other celebrity publicised donations.

So wearing a baseball cap is now a curated casual outfit. She has always worn baseball caps before she even married Harry. It's not a carefully curated image, it appears to be her go to casual wear look she has been doing for a very long time.

WeCantGoOverIt · 16/01/2025 11:55

The decision to delay the show would have been a commercial decision by Netflix. H&M have been (over)paid to produce material for Netflix and won’t have much say about when or if it is shown.

Snorlaxo · 16/01/2025 12:07

The baseball cap is a favourite “disguise” for celebrities and I think it’s fine as long as the cap isn’t an attempt to merch a product.

Spectre8 · 16/01/2025 12:11

Atlasvue · 16/01/2025 09:25

The baseball cap is her go to when she’s doing her crisis relief efforts- the school shooting, Californian fires.

She is very deliberate with her clothing choices. We see that she changes her style in accordance to what image she wants you to see.

It’s why you won’t see her in a baseball cap, jeans and T shirt in her With Love, Meghan tv show. If this was her authentic style- then you would see this casual style on her show, pottering around in the garden etc. Not the highly polished beige looks she thinks you need to be the Queen of Lifestyle television. Or the boss lady looks of a couple years ago when she was a serious producer/global leader.

The baseball cap is designed to make her look completely accessible but low key. This is very much a uniform.

Just because of this stupid comment here are pictures of her wearing baseball caps pre Harry. We are talking going back as far 2009!

So tell me then here she is way before marrying Harry and she is casual wear and cap when she is travelling etc. So this is one of her authentic styles, a style she has for over a decade. It's not just when she is doing crisis relief efforts.

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Netflix has delayed start of Meghans show
Netflix has delayed start of Meghans show
Serenster · 16/01/2025 12:16

So wearing a baseball cap is now a curated casual outfit. She has always worn baseball caps before she even married Harry. It's not a carefully curated image, it appears to be her go to casual wear look she has been doing for a very long time.

Come now. I have no problem at all with Meghan’s donation to a small grass roots charity this week, I think that’s an excellent thing for her to have done and a good use of her ability to attract publicity to give it coverage and attract support.

And yes, she has always worn baseball caps, but 95% of the time they have not sported a logo, they are normally plain. It’s interesting to see when she’s worn a logo, actually. She has worn a bluejays cap to a Toronto bluejays game, an Archewell cap to an Archewell event, a branded cap for her friend Kelly Zajfen’s charity. And once, just after the news of her, a Hollywood actress, dating Harry first broke, a royal blue LA dodgers hat - she was papped in it shopping for groceries. You can see from that that her decisions to wear a logo on her baseball caps is deliberate, rather than random.

And now, twice in two appearances, she wears two different LA-branded baseball caps. Clearly that’s a deliberate decision both times. So yes, it’s curated.

Serenster · 16/01/2025 12:22

Funny Spectre8 you’ve not included the many many photos of her wearing an unbranded cap! Deliberate?

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Netflix has delayed start of Meghans show
Netflix has delayed start of Meghans show
Spectre8 · 16/01/2025 12:29

Serenster · 16/01/2025 12:16

So wearing a baseball cap is now a curated casual outfit. She has always worn baseball caps before she even married Harry. It's not a carefully curated image, it appears to be her go to casual wear look she has been doing for a very long time.

Come now. I have no problem at all with Meghan’s donation to a small grass roots charity this week, I think that’s an excellent thing for her to have done and a good use of her ability to attract publicity to give it coverage and attract support.

And yes, she has always worn baseball caps, but 95% of the time they have not sported a logo, they are normally plain. It’s interesting to see when she’s worn a logo, actually. She has worn a bluejays cap to a Toronto bluejays game, an Archewell cap to an Archewell event, a branded cap for her friend Kelly Zajfen’s charity. And once, just after the news of her, a Hollywood actress, dating Harry first broke, a royal blue LA dodgers hat - she was papped in it shopping for groceries. You can see from that that her decisions to wear a logo on her baseball caps is deliberate, rather than random.

And now, twice in two appearances, she wears two different LA-branded baseball caps. Clearly that’s a deliberate decision both times. So yes, it’s curated.

Hahahaha wtf of course you would wear a bluejays cap to bluejays game, it's what most sports fan do wear the merchandise at the game. She supports that team so no surprise she has specidic team cap. To try to spin like it's a deliberately curated image is stupid.

As for the baseball caps they pretty much always have a logo on it. It's an American style since God knows when.

Sorry but this really scrapping bottom of the barrel here.

Spectre8 · 16/01/2025 12:31

Serenster · 16/01/2025 12:22

Funny Spectre8 you’ve not included the many many photos of her wearing an unbranded cap! Deliberate?

Because the point i was making to that poster I was responding too whose comment is she only wears baseball caps for crisis relief events is that she has always worn baseball caps before marrying Harry. It wasn't about whether it has a logo or not. Maybe actually read the posts properly.

Serenster · 16/01/2025 12:33

Hahahaha wtf of course you would wear a bluejays cap to bluejays game,

Well, exactly, you’ve just proved my point. Meghan gives every impression that she is very deliberate about when she wears brands on her baseball caps.

When did she last wear a bluejays cap then? If as you say, she’s a supporter?

Munnygirl · 16/01/2025 12:33

JingsMahBucket · 15/01/2025 11:34

Nobody is calling it disaster tourism other than weirdo British people who don’t understand philanthropy outside of the royal family.

Justine Bateman did and she’s American

Serenster · 16/01/2025 12:35

Ah sorry then, we were talking at cross purposes, then. Yes, Meghan wears baseball caps a lot.

But I did look at Meghan’s two different LA caps, either pulled out of the closet or newly acquired for her two charitable appearances this week, and think how deliberate (and yes, curated) it looked.

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