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Viviennemary · 2025-01-12T22:34:41+00:00

Just seen on Sky News. Breaking News headlines. Delayed because of the wild fires didn't say if this was technical difficulties or it would be a bit crass to launch a frothy type lifestyle show with all the devastation. Anyway it might be shelved for good with any luck.

Ohpleeeease · 31/01/2025 11:05

There is a huge amount of misinformation about, rumours that become discussion points that become facts. But thanks to MM’s obsessive desire for fame there is also a huge amount of first hand material on which to make a judgment. That’s what I prefer to rely on.

CoffeeCantata · 31/01/2025 11:12

Jacquette · 31/01/2025 01:57

If you reread my post, you will find that I wrote that the popularity of the show was ‘not wholly due to Meghan obviously.’

Love her or ‘dislike’ her, criticise her or praise her, an extraordinary amount of people read about her and talk about her. She has an extraordinary amount of articles written about her because people want to read about her. We can debate the why, but the fact is she holds interest for a great many people and media outlets all over the world would not be writing, or talking about her to the degree that they do if people weren’t interested in her.

I agree she's something of a phenomenon - but not for the reasons she'd probably like to be!

For me it's a mixture of the sheer soap-opera sensationalism of her and H's trajectory and the more intellectual dimension of both their own psychology and that of their stalwart fans. It's a psychological and social phenomenon worthy of several PhDs. Meghan's text-book narcissism and the Sussex Squad's crazy, cult-like, brainwashed adoration is truly fascinating to observe.

Ha ha! The number of times the Squaddies ask on here 'Why do you care? You don't KNOW her!' is hilarious. Are they kidding? You just couldn't make up the stuff Meghan (and her stooge, Harry) get up to - it's endlessly entertaining.

Meghan particularly craves attention and adulation. You sometimes feel she'd wither and die if she didn't get a regular dose. Therefore I don't feel bad about laughing at her - if she went off and lived a dignified private life and worked quietly for causes she's genuinely interested in I'd start to respect her. But everything she does is for the cause of Meghan, and she can't even see that that's the root of the problem. People see through it - some straight away and some eventually.

Thedom · 31/01/2025 11:13

She's making no effort at all on Instagram at the moment.

i think her SM strategy has been scuppered, rather than there being no effort.

She had a definite SM plan, the upbeat New Year video, then a few days later dropping the trailer for the show, a few days later the tribute to the long dead dog, which had been kept secret for several months, along with the soft launch of the kids.

Then the fires happened, that didn’t make it onto her Insta, I can only guess because it didn’t align with whatever insta strategy rollout they had planned.

it all came to a very sudden emergency stop with the outcry about ther disaster tourism and the overwhelming ridicule and criticism
of the Netflix trailer. Then the postponement of the show and the subsequent rumours around what may be an alternative reason for the postponement to the one they claimed.

i think they must be regrouping and deciding where they go next with her SM presence.

Her following is extremely low for someone with her name recognition, it even took a while to break into the 1m followers range. I think they were expecting a Jennifer Aniston type of response to her SM launch.

CaraCameleon · 31/01/2025 11:21

CoffeeCantata · 31/01/2025 11:12

I agree she's something of a phenomenon - but not for the reasons she'd probably like to be!

For me it's a mixture of the sheer soap-opera sensationalism of her and H's trajectory and the more intellectual dimension of both their own psychology and that of their stalwart fans. It's a psychological and social phenomenon worthy of several PhDs. Meghan's text-book narcissism and the Sussex Squad's crazy, cult-like, brainwashed adoration is truly fascinating to observe.

Ha ha! The number of times the Squaddies ask on here 'Why do you care? You don't KNOW her!' is hilarious. Are they kidding? You just couldn't make up the stuff Meghan (and her stooge, Harry) get up to - it's endlessly entertaining.

Meghan particularly craves attention and adulation. You sometimes feel she'd wither and die if she didn't get a regular dose. Therefore I don't feel bad about laughing at her - if she went off and lived a dignified private life and worked quietly for causes she's genuinely interested in I'd start to respect her. But everything she does is for the cause of Meghan, and she can't even see that that's the root of the problem. People see through it - some straight away and some eventually.

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Agree totally

EdithWeston · 31/01/2025 11:35

Thedom · 31/01/2025 11:13

She's making no effort at all on Instagram at the moment.

i think her SM strategy has been scuppered, rather than there being no effort.

She had a definite SM plan, the upbeat New Year video, then a few days later dropping the trailer for the show, a few days later the tribute to the long dead dog, which had been kept secret for several months, along with the soft launch of the kids.

Then the fires happened, that didn’t make it onto her Insta, I can only guess because it didn’t align with whatever insta strategy rollout they had planned.

it all came to a very sudden emergency stop with the outcry about ther disaster tourism and the overwhelming ridicule and criticism
of the Netflix trailer. Then the postponement of the show and the subsequent rumours around what may be an alternative reason for the postponement to the one they claimed.

i think they must be regrouping and deciding where they go next with her SM presence.

Her following is extremely low for someone with her name recognition, it even took a while to break into the 1m followers range. I think they were expecting a Jennifer Aniston type of response to her SM launch.

Oh, yes, I think we can all see why Plan A had to come to a halt.

But it's been over 3 weeks since her last post. And unlike just about every other SoCal based celeb, there has been nothing about the fires or how to help (not even a re-post of the "from the office of" statement).

How long does it take to "regroup" to work out what to do in an unexpected 8 week hiatus?

Or perhaps the answer is simply "ignore it and start again later" in the hope that momentum will be recaptured? I'd see that as a risky strategy, because it could easily look cynical (esp when combined with no comments, though I have rather more sympathy with the likely reasons for that, however it will tend to lower engagement)

MrsFinkelstein · 31/01/2025 11:43

Jacquette · 31/01/2025 01:57

If you reread my post, you will find that I wrote that the popularity of the show was ‘not wholly due to Meghan obviously.’

Love her or ‘dislike’ her, criticise her or praise her, an extraordinary amount of people read about her and talk about her. She has an extraordinary amount of articles written about her because people want to read about her. We can debate the why, but the fact is she holds interest for a great many people and media outlets all over the world would not be writing, or talking about her to the degree that they do if people weren’t interested in her.

Because of who she married and her husband's family.

Not because of her acting ability or CV.

That must be difficult to realise that people aren't really interested in you but in your married title.

Saveusernames · 31/01/2025 11:50

Jacquette · 31/01/2025 10:28

So much of what is written and spoken about Meghan is made up. Rumour and gossip is repeated so often, and by so many, that it develops the air of truth. I’m not saying Meghan is uncritisizeable (is that a word?). Like everyone she has her faults but I think she’s been treated badly by traditional media and social media. I’m not sure that people are able to effectively parse the truth of Meghan from the fiction that is recycled endlessly. For example, Meghan is Mail Online’s ‘most popular subject, they published nearly 1700 stories about her in 2023.’ The Mail online does not traffic in positive Meghan articles. and Mail online is just one media outlet.

I do think it’s bad publicity but I do still think she can turn this around. People have short memories, more so now then ever. She’s certainly on very many people’s radar. If she produces something that most people find truly interesting, the negative views of Meghan could become positive ones. Some would still cling to their negative view of her of course. But that’s true of any person in the public eye. There are always going to be detractors.

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Do you think that the persistent and consistent separate and independent investigations and exposes of Meghan's bullying behaviour towards dozens of staff over many years and across continents is "made up rumour and gossip"?

Do you think there is a reason that this highly litigous couple have not sued each of the separate and highly credible entities that investigated or published interviews with victims over the past 5 years - The Times, Buckingham Palace, Valentine Low/Coutiers, The Hollywood Reporter, Vanity Fair?

Are you able to "parse the truth" from the dozens of employee interviews treated abominally in their workplace and the testomonies of those who witnessed it - or is just all "recycled fiction"?

Employees and witnesses who's careers and mental health have been negatively impacted by Meghan's bad behaviour clearly dont have short memories and neither do the public who are reading new and continuing reports.

JanuaryCrow · 31/01/2025 11:52

I also think there are simply too many 'Ratner moment' equivalents by Meghan, on camera, for her to be able escape fully from the memory bank that many people hold of her in the backs of their minds, such as the infamous curtsy-to-Queen-Elizabeth mimicry scene from the Netflix documentary. One showing of that as a reminder and - bam, 'game changer'.

Harrys's writing Spare and giving those petulant interviews about his book were stupid tactics because it turned the relationship between H&M and the British royal family into a battle, and there's only one side A-listers, the wealthy and the powerful with eyes on the prizes were ever going to side with - the British monarch's.

Hughs · 31/01/2025 11:54

Hopefully the cooking show will be something that she can parlay into something substantial for herself.

I'm afraid I cannot see the cooking show being popular at all - who would watch it and why?

People who are interested in food will surely ignore this from someone who has no skills or training in cookery. Maybe it's for people who aspire to be like Meghan. But she's so unpopular now, outed as a bully, a figure of ridicule, the butt of jokes, who wants to be her?

That leaves the rubber neckers and the hate watchers. I'm sure there will be plenty of those, but they won't last very long and they're certainly not going to be buying anything, only laughing about how terrible it all is. You can kind of see the parodies and piss takes already...

MrsFinkelstein · 31/01/2025 11:58

I actually did watch Suits from when it started. Think I gave up from about S3 or 4 because it just got very samey all the time.

So I knew of her. When I read the headlines when their relationship was announced I couldn't picture who Meghan Markle was - wasn't sure if it was the actress who played Donna, Rachel, or one of the other minor female characters. I recognised her from her photo, but her name didn't mean anything.

She was decent enough in the role, but Donna was the more memorable character.

MollyRover · 31/01/2025 12:07

Jacquette · 30/01/2025 22:30

I think some of you are underestimating Meghan’s ability to draw an audience. I’m having to watch commercial tv at the moment because my home internet is down. The channel I was watching showed a promo for SUITS LA and the promo led with ‘SUITS was the most watched streamed tv show the US in 2023’. That is a popular show. Of course this is not wholly due to Meghan obviously, but she definitely draws and maintains interest.

At any rate we will see how popular or not her new show will be.

Iirc "Suits" was available to stream on Netflix from about 2023 so probably just because it was available that year it was watched a lot. Says more for whoever marketed it really, Meghan was a supporting actress at best in it. The love interest.

itsstillmehere · 31/01/2025 12:31

Ohpleeeease · 31/01/2025 11:05

There is a huge amount of misinformation about, rumours that become discussion points that become facts. But thanks to MM’s obsessive desire for fame there is also a huge amount of first hand material on which to make a judgment. That’s what I prefer to rely on.

What is this first hand material you talk of ?

Ohpleeeease · 31/01/2025 12:41

itsstillmehere · 31/01/2025 12:31

What is this first hand material you talk of ?

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Take your pick, interviews she has given, statements she has made in her own name, speeches, her podcasts in which she talks about herself, the Netflix series, the OW interview. There really is a lot out there, I’m surprised you haven’t come across it.

itsstillmehere · 31/01/2025 12:44

Did I say I hadn't come across it ? I don't think so. I was wondering what YOU saw as this positive first hand information. I am surprised to see much of what you include as much of that does not display Meghan in a good light imo.

Hughs · 31/01/2025 12:44

What is this first hand material you talk of ?

Have a look on Netflix, there's a whole documentary series about Meghan and Harry's life. Also the Omid Scobie book Finding Freedom which she contributed to. And interviews (including quite a famous one she did with Oprah). And a series of podcasts.

Ohpleeeease · 31/01/2025 12:46

itsstillmehere · 31/01/2025 12:44

Did I say I hadn't come across it ? I don't think so. I was wondering what YOU saw as this positive first hand information. I am surprised to see much of what you include as much of that does not display Meghan in a good light imo.

I didn’t say any of it was positive. It isn’t.

itsstillmehere · 31/01/2025 12:47

@Hughs it's not a cookery show is it ? It's about elevating other people's recipes eg putting some bits of this and that on donuts or cheese. It's a fluff piece.

itsstillmehere · 31/01/2025 12:48

@Ohpleeeease so are you saying these things give a negative impression or not?

Ohpleeeease · 31/01/2025 12:53

itsstillmehere · 31/01/2025 12:48

@Ohpleeeease so are you saying these things give a negative impression or not?

I’m saying that I’ve formed my opinion of her from those sources rather than rumour. I think the OW interview was unforgivable so that’s where my line is drawn.

IcedPurple · 31/01/2025 12:54

itsstillmehere · 31/01/2025 12:47

@Hughs it's not a cookery show is it ? It's about elevating other people's recipes eg putting some bits of this and that on donuts or cheese. It's a fluff piece.

8 episodes of "putting some bits of this and that on donuts or cheese"?

That seems like the type of thing you can get in 3 minute videos on Tik Tok or Instagram.

Who is the intended audience for this 'fluff piece'?

Munnygirl · 31/01/2025 13:14

Jacquette · 31/01/2025 10:28

So much of what is written and spoken about Meghan is made up. Rumour and gossip is repeated so often, and by so many, that it develops the air of truth. I’m not saying Meghan is uncritisizeable (is that a word?). Like everyone she has her faults but I think she’s been treated badly by traditional media and social media. I’m not sure that people are able to effectively parse the truth of Meghan from the fiction that is recycled endlessly. For example, Meghan is Mail Online’s ‘most popular subject, they published nearly 1700 stories about her in 2023.’ The Mail online does not traffic in positive Meghan articles. and Mail online is just one media outlet.

I do think it’s bad publicity but I do still think she can turn this around. People have short memories, more so now then ever. She’s certainly on very many people’s radar. If she produces something that most people find truly interesting, the negative views of Meghan could become positive ones. Some would still cling to their negative view of her of course. But that’s true of any person in the public eye. There are always going to be detractors.

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Really? And how would you know it’s made up?

CoffeeCantata · 31/01/2025 13:16

IcedPurple · 31/01/2025 12:54

8 episodes of "putting some bits of this and that on donuts or cheese"?

That seems like the type of thing you can get in 3 minute videos on Tik Tok or Instagram.

Who is the intended audience for this 'fluff piece'?

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Exactly.

And, for this concept to even have a chance of working, the person has to be popular, come over as genuine, likeable, relatable etc. Or possibly have comedy potential - eg I may be alone in this, but I'd watch say Alan Carr or Rob Brydon trying some cookery...even if no skills or expertise were apparent.

O maybe, if not likeable, at least aspirational.

Meghan is a busted flush. I think that now, very, very few people aspire to be her or to emulate her. Certainly not enough to make a TV show a success.

Munnygirl · 31/01/2025 13:24

CoffeeCantata · 31/01/2025 11:12

I agree she's something of a phenomenon - but not for the reasons she'd probably like to be!

For me it's a mixture of the sheer soap-opera sensationalism of her and H's trajectory and the more intellectual dimension of both their own psychology and that of their stalwart fans. It's a psychological and social phenomenon worthy of several PhDs. Meghan's text-book narcissism and the Sussex Squad's crazy, cult-like, brainwashed adoration is truly fascinating to observe.

Ha ha! The number of times the Squaddies ask on here 'Why do you care? You don't KNOW her!' is hilarious. Are they kidding? You just couldn't make up the stuff Meghan (and her stooge, Harry) get up to - it's endlessly entertaining.

Meghan particularly craves attention and adulation. You sometimes feel she'd wither and die if she didn't get a regular dose. Therefore I don't feel bad about laughing at her - if she went off and lived a dignified private life and worked quietly for causes she's genuinely interested in I'd start to respect her. But everything she does is for the cause of Meghan, and she can't even see that that's the root of the problem. People see through it - some straight away and some eventually.

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💯 this 👏

Munnygirl · 31/01/2025 13:31

itsstillmehere · 31/01/2025 12:47

@Hughs it's not a cookery show is it ? It's about elevating other people's recipes eg putting some bits of this and that on donuts or cheese. It's a fluff piece.

Oh please

Serenster · 31/01/2025 13:32

Munnygirl · 31/01/2025 13:14

Really? And how would you know it’s made up?

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As I see it, information about Meghan (and Harry) could be one of other of the following, because we have seen many instances of them all:

True, and released by Meghan and Harry;
True, and written by someone else;
False, and released by Meghan and Harry; or
False, and written by someone else.

Sometimes of course things written about them will be a mix of the above! So yes, it would be interesting to know how Jacquette sorts each into the relevant categories.